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White Rastas(for 'withe' Rastas please click here) ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() but despite the "black-face" Rastas....... ..........i walked when the almighty 'god' pharaoh is revealed to be a 'white' albino. Economics, Education, Entertainment, Labor, Law, Politics, Religion, Sex and War are all distorted and dominated by White Supremacist Racist in 10000 B.C. : "Factual errors: Hard to say how accurate the makers of a film like this might be trying to be, at least in a historical sense. Since this is obviously not a documentary, many "liberties" are taken with historical truth. For example, eighteen foot long sabre tooth tigers didn't exist in this era -- nor did mastodons -- at least not in the areas depicted (Mesopotamia, northeast Africa.) Also, early in the picture we see extraordinary changes in environment(s) after relatively short travel: from snowy, mountainous areas, where no one ever shows any evidence of steam emanating from mouths or noses; suddenly to tropical areas, and then, just as suddenly to desert lands, which later in the film, characters refer to as places which would take a very, very long time to traverse; but in fact the tribe which has just done this appears quite fit, and with not much wear and tear to their clothing. Errors in geography: The terror birds that attacked in the forest lived in South America not Europe, Asia, or Africa. Factual errors: References are made to the "lead bull" of the mammoth herds. Modern day elephants as well as ancient mammoths and mastodons are and were headed by a matriarchal female leader. Bulls never lead the herd. Anachronisms: Not since Raquel Welch was battling the dinosaurs in One Million Years B.C. (1966) were so many anachronistic errors squeezed into one prehistoric-era film: (a) Metalworking - first copper, then bronze, then iron - was not mastered before 5500 BC; (b) Exploitation of horses for human transportation started approximately 4000 BC; (c) The earliest pyramid was erected in Egypt circa 2630 BC; and (d) Mammoths had never been domesticated as pack animals."-------imdb.com "AS far as writer-director Roland Emmerich is concerned, the Ice Age is a state of mind. Refusing to be tied down by either sense or sensibility, his "10,000 BC" is as crazy as it wants to be, plundering the past and other movies with that peculiar Hollywood combination of the earnest and the preposterous that can result in the guiltiest of guilty pleasures. Outrageous and outlandish, Emmerich's "10,000 BC" is easy to mock, but it is so cheerfully shameless and terminally silly -- who knew that woolly mammoths were used to build the pyramids? -- that you have to admire its effrontery and accept its creator, the man behind "Independence Day" and "The Day After Tomorrow," as a certified crackpot visionary. Though perhaps initially inspired by the 1940 and 1967 versions of "One Million BC," the first starring Victor Mature, the second, Raquel Welch, "10,000 BC" has gone beyond those films' simple story of the humble Shell people and the hostile Rock people and into the wild blue yonder. As Emmerich's co-writer, Harald Kloser, archly puts it, "Roland and I never intended for '10,000 BC' to be a documentary." What that means in practice is that "10,000 BC" envisions the icy environs of the late Pleistocene epoch as a place that people could simply walk out of if they had the requisite gumption and a heck of a good reason to hit the trail. Our hero, the hunter D'Leh (Steven Strait), has both. But it's the fate of his beloved "BLUE EYES" Evolet (Camilla Belle, very far from costarring with Daniel Day-Lewis in the indie film "The Ballad of Jack and Rose"), kidnapped by a band of marauding slave traders known as "four-legged demons" because they come on horseback, that provides the clincher. So D'Leh, who's never recovered from the youthful disappearance of his father, plus the great hunter and sage Tic'Tic (I'm not making up these names) and two others of the intrepid Yagahl tribe begin walking the walk. After the ice and snow give out, the Yagahl suddenly enter a sweltering jungle where they are attacked by what appears to be a flock of enormous and quite hostile chickens. This Lost Valley for some reason contains an African tribe called the Naku, whose numbers have been similarly diminished by the slavers. Uniting with them and other local tribes, D'Leh and Tic'Tic (the Australian veteran Cliff Curtis) now have to cross an enormous desert. At the end of that is a proto-Egyptian civilization, in love with pyramids and run by an effete priestly class with long fingernails and a fondness for slavery and human sacrifice. If those evil folk sound suspiciously like refugees from Mel Gibson's "Apocalypto," that's not the only movie "10,000 BC" plunders. There's a sequence with a saber-toothed tiger inspired by the beloved "Androcles and the Lion" and an overall sensibility that echoes adventure films like the H. Rider Haggard-based "King Solomon's Mines" and "She." More than anything, "10,000 BC" is an updated version of those old Saturday matinee action films and serials, filled with hair-breadth escapes, wild coincidences, things foretold by ancient prophecy and mysterious places such as the Mountain of the Gods, from which "no one has ever returned." And that doesn't even get into the legendary White Spear and the wise shaman called Old Mother who knows all about it. Yes, the film has so much up-to-the-minute, cost-is-no-object computer-generated imagery that we can practically smell the fetid breath of the herds of woolly mammoths that are much given to fierce stampeding. But the film's heart is in its throwback innocence, its determinedly old-fashioned story of a young love that will not die and a young man who is a hero in the making but doesn't know it. Almost alone in films intended for a young demographic, the PG-13 "10,000 BC" determinedly avoids profanity, excessive gore and profane humor. It even employs Omar Sharif to read a pious voice-over that relies on sentiments like "only time can teach us what is truth and what is legend." The oracle has spoken."------kenneth.turan@latimes.com "White Rasta' is oxymoronic: ![]() ![]()
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TheBlackPanther. black-faced White Rastas reminded me of that steven sigal movie...... can't remember the name though......maybe it was "marked for death" or somethingy. after all of the time that i have spent in ini life studying Racism, i have come to expect such treatment of the Victims of White Supremacy by White Supremacists in all areas of people activity, including Economics, Education, Entertainment, Labor, Law, Politics, Religion, Sex and War. however, i am more upSet about the treatment of animals that are reduced to "livestock". ![]() now, i am analyzing the Obama 'race' thingy at the moment. Obama's critics are more than likely to love the movies 10,000 B.C and National Treasure: Book of Secrets....... .....talk about "free press" time
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"You don't have to be dread, to be Rasta" - Bob Marley
I don't see why dreadlocks must continuously be solely attributed to Rastafarianism, when many people of different races and cultures have been sporting it long before the Rastafari movement. Besides that, I don't even see the point in going technical with 'historical inaccuracies' to prove that 10,000 BC was a garbage movie. Don't we save that type of analysis for better produced films like Apocalypto and The Da Vinci Code? |
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Yea 10,000 BC sucked, Apocalypto was way better. And I don't think they count as dread heads cuz i was having a debate wit somebody about this. it takes 1-2 months for dreads to lock and they had on whigs so their dreads were actually just twists if you look carefully at them.
Its funny I'm starting to think forgein movies are getting better than American movies Argument 1: The Bank Job- Probably the best bank robbery movie I've ever seen, It might change once I see that Robert De Niro bank robbery movie. Argument 2: In Bruges- This movie was amazing, it had comedy, drama, great visuals, amazing theme, and sickening realism. I have to give it to Colin Ferrell he beasted on his role, probably the best I've seen him play except for that episode of Scrubs lol. Be warned there are racist remarks. Argument 3: City of Men is out in thearters and if it's anything like City of God then this might be the best movie this year. Its like foreign movies are killing american movies in everything but the box office. Just look at the last Oscars when all those foreign actors took the awards home. Are we witnessing the birth of a new Hollywood in Europe?
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. Just watch and see for yourself.I agree with your point about foreign films. I still don't like how animation in America still isn't taken seriously enough and is still to some extent viewed (in the mainstream) just as a "kids thing". I suppose the same could be said for comics. |
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Too much ***** is all Bruckheimer flash, bang, grunt, dive, hot chick being nailed to some wild assed guitar riff...dude cruising in topless exotic car...***** gets old man... US made horror movies are frenetic and canned-statement-like where you get your token characters, a plot that had its *** worn out decades before and twitch directing where the camera whips around and shakes so much as to add to the suspense when all it accomplishes is grand annoyances like Hilary Clinton's...existence. With foreign horror like Jenifer or The Audition you get a combination of creepy ***** from so much subtlety building to a crescendo with all of the cerebral meanderings of one Silence of the Lambs your senses are running haywire as if you were out of breath in an enclosed stadium filled with bat guano huffing for whatever air you could get...not really but still Compare these to their Japanese originals: The Ring (Ringu) The Grudge (Juon / Jurei) The Eye One Missed Call But not only horror...check out true caper style shiza in Ronin, the flawlessy executed D: Vampire Hunter Blodlust, the soundtrack AND overarcing message of Cowboy Beebop the Movie...We have some gems but nothing noteworthy since who knows when. |
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And zev u would not believe how much i loved City of God. It was one of those movies that just change ur whole outlook on life. I didn't sleep for days after seeing it and not many movies can do that to me.
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zevin64. ![]() the different ethnic groups whose culture included 'locks' have not been classified as White. they are classified as not White. unless you are thinking of "Goldielocks". ![]() the weird thingy about the movie "10000bc" is that the people indigenous to africa are not 'sporting' locks that are clearly exhibited in ancient glyphs and murals. White people from the Eurasian plains (withe twists) are looking for "helen of troy" in egypt. Ras captures a couple of eurasian baldheads ![]() Rastafari is pan african. one must be pan african to be Rasta, therefore even a bald-head can be ras. but a promoter of White Supremacy is diametrically opposed to pan africanism. italy attacked Rastafari....Haile Selassie I.zevin64, it is like the ten "black" points from Reverend Jeremiah Wrights website or the 'principles of kwanze'. White People are never excluded from the thought, speech, and/or actions of african amorican/non'white' people but historically White People have excluded african amorican people from their own "White Identity" thought, speech and/or actions. non'white people always treat White People like our Beloved children. like our Prodigal ones. name one african amorican/non'white' persons event that White People have not invited themselves to during the past 400 years...... Last edited by seshata; 03-19-2008 at 07:00 PM. |
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Quick question seshata, knowing that you are a Rasta and a wearer of locks; which you’ve proven to me from a false accusation I gave (again sorry, bro
). Why do you continue to call them “Dreads”? Isn’t that giving it a negative connotation? And you and I both know that there’s nothing “Dreaded” about the locks (pun intended). Why aren’t people calling the style “African Locks” or “Afro Locks” since its meant to be positive and afrocentric?
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TheBlackPanther. everythingy african can not be positive. if africa was at its greatest heights, it still fell like humpty dumpty and ini are still picking up the pieces. in a way, people who were once chained to the hulls of ships or to chain gangs could be offended by 'locks'. in a way, F.B.I. Counter-Intelligence Program "dread" the appearance of a 'messiah'. the military industrial complex " dreads the day that the son of man appears to end wars and rumours of wars. Oliver Northe would pop a cap off in jezussass. I Ran Contra, of course, Oli although ini are aware that there's nothing 'dreaded' about african's cultural adornments, like the n-word, nigga, some White People continue to treat non'white' people as if they are some thingy to be 'dreaded'. i get funny vibes all of the time.....like medusa lucky for me, i have a sense of humour..... ![]() ........or i'ld turn to stone age. Last edited by seshata; 03-19-2008 at 08:24 PM. |
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I don't know if you covered this, because I don't exactly sift through all your posts seshata, sorry bud, but sometimes they're too long for me.
Anyway, Medusa was an African goddess long before she was demonified by the greeks. She had locks, and wore a snake for a belt, which symbolized never ending life (snakes shed their skin and people believed they never died), which made her a healer goddess (snake venom was used as a healing serum, and many serums today are based off of different animal venom). Due to various sects worshipping medusa, the greeks and romans wound up having to make medusa into 3 people, allowing one to be evil, one to be relatively "good", and one to be, well, indifferent but dangerous.
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I am not concerned with the specific representation of ancient White Europeans with 'locks' in 10,000 BC, and whether or not that depiction could be historically accurate (there have been those usual internet claims about Vikings and Celtics having had locks, but I've yet to find any hard sources). I was more concerned with the general views that seem to be implied by your thread title; that white people should not be wearing dreadlocks, and that dreadlocks must be necessarily associated with Rastafarianism. "10,000BC "withe" White Rastas" Really? I don't 'overstand' , apparently when I partially zoned out during that crapfest of a movie, I must have missed the part where the Yagahl tribe professed their undying allegiance to Haile Selassie.Quote:
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Zevin64. there are 3 types of people in the known universe: 1. White people 2. Non-white people 3. White supremacists Explanation: 1. 'White' people are people who classify themselves as 'white', and have been classified as 'white', and who generally function as 'white' in all of the nine major areas of activity, including economics, education, entertainment, labor, law, politics, religion, sex, and war. 2. Non'white' people are people who have been classified as non'white', and/or who generally function as non'white' in their relationships withe each other, and withe people classified as 'white', in all of the nine major areas of activity, including economics, education, entertainment, labor, law, politics, religion, sex, and war. 3. White Supremacists (Racists) are people who classify themselves as 'white', and who generally function as 'white', and, who practice racial subjugation (based on 'white'-non'white' classifications) against people classified as non'white', at any time, in any place, in any one, or more of the nine major areas of activity, including economics, education, entertainment, labor, law, politics, religion, sex and war. Racist Suspect: Until the end White Supremacy, any white person that is able to practice white supremacy (racism). do not assume that a person who says that he or she is a "Christian", a "Jew", a "Muslim", a "Buddhist", [a "Rastafarian], etc is one. do not assume that a person who says that he or she is a "Christian", a "Jew", a "Muslim", a "Buddhist", [a "Rastafarian], etc is one ALL OF THE TIME. White Supremacy is a "religion". it is an extremely powerful and exclusive "religion". it is so powerful, and so exclusive, that any person who practices White Supremacy (Racism) cannot, at the same time, practice ANY other "religion". White Supremacists do, however, use DECEIT as a basic tool of the "religion" of Racism that they practice. Within the function of White Supremacy this deceit is "religious" deception. thus, a white person may ofttimes PRETEND to be a "Christian", a "Jew", a "Rastafarian", etc.., while actually PRACTICING the "religion" of White Supremacy(Racism). it is therefore difficult, and ofttimes dangerous, for any NON'white' person to assume that a person--- particularly a white person--is a "Buddhist", a "Christian", a "Jew", a "Pluralist", etc.., simply because that person SAYS that he or she is. IT HAS BEEN PROVEN THAT MANY WHITE SUPREMACISTS (RACISTS) CAN SPEAK AND/OR ACT IN A MANNER THAT LEADS MANY OF THEIR VICTIMS [non'white' people] TO BELIEVE WHATEVER THOSE WHITE SUPREMACISTS WANT THEM TO BELIEVE. THE SKILLED USE OF "religious" TITLES IS ONE OF THE MOST EFFECTIVE METHODS USED BY THE RACIST.... ...TO DECEIVE THEIR VICTIMS. It has been said that “God made white people for the purpose of serving God, and God made black people for the purpose of serving white people”. This could be true. There is much to indicate that it is true. If true, however, there is much to indicate that the smartest and most powerful white people have chosen NOT to “serve God”. There is much to indicate that the smartest and most powerful white people [White Supremacist] have chosen to subvert, and/or replace God. They have, apparently, chosen to “make” themselves “God”. It is unfortunate, non-just, and incorrect for the smartest, and most powerful of the people of the known universe to have organized themselves into a “Race” {Race, and/or Racism = 1. A system of thought, speech, and action, operated by people who classify themselves as “white”, and who use deceit, violence, and/or the threat of violence, to subjugate, use and/or abuse people classified as “non-white”, under conditions that promote the practice of falsehood, non-justice, and incorrectness, in one or more areas of activity, for the ULTIMATE PURPOSE of maintaining, expanding, and/or refining the practice of White Supremacy (Racism). 2. Unjust speech, action, and/or inaction based on the color, and/or non-color, of persons, and/or factors associated with, the color, and/or non-color, of persons. 3. White Supremacy. }. Not all white people, presumably, are members of a Race, but, apparently, those who are smarter, and, therefore, more powerful, do function {by choice} as Race Members [Racists / White Supremacist]. They have made Racism their “religion”. They have made Racism into the most powerful “religion” among the people of the known universe, and made themselves the “God” of that “religion”. To confuse their victims, they have disguised their practice of Racism by using the names and titles of many other religions and social concepts. This has helped them to refine their subjugation and abuse of their victims. The have chosen to have non-white people “worship” them for being “white” and SUPREME. They have attempted to make God and White Supremacy one and the same. They have done all this for no ultimate purpose than to “glorify” White Supremacy (Racism), and to “glorify” themselves as “White” Supremacists (Racists). The basic speech and action of a Racist (White Supremacist) is only for the purpose of promoting falsehood, non-justice, and incorrectness as the functional foundation for Racism (White Supremacy). THE RACISTS ARE MASTERFULLY SKILLED IN THE USE OF DECEIT AND DIRECT VIOLENCE. It is reasonable to believe that Racism does not serve God. Also, there is no reason to believe that a person can be a Racist, and serve God, AT THE SAME TIME. If Racism does not serve the purpose(s) of the Creator [God], then it is the DUTY of the Victims of Racism [non-white people], as well as the duty of those white people who are NOT Racists, to speak and act to eliminate Racism. It is also the duty of those white persons who are Racists, to stop being Racist. If these duties are performed, conditions will then be better for the Creator’s [God’s] purposes to be served. The value of any “religion” should be determined by how it affects people in the way that they relate to each other, as well as all that is in the universe. People who have great power were “given” the means and ability to develop that power. If people who have great power use that power to mistreat people, they have, by so doing, destroyed their reason for HAVING that power. It is then the duty of those persons who have been mistreated to persuade those powerful persons to stop misusing that power. IT IS THE DUTY OF THE MISTREATED PERSONS TO CAUSE THESE POWERFUL PERSONS TO BE SEPARATED FROM THEIR POWER. In causing this separation from power, it is correct for the mistreated to use correct social force and/or correct counter-violence. The correct purpose for producing, receiving, or sharing knowledge, and/or power, is to reveal truth, and to use truth in a manner that produces justice and correctness-------in order to produce “peace”. No people should do other than this. No people should BE ALLOWED to do other than this. When asked to discuss the “causes of Racism”, present, and /or repeat, the essentials of the following points of view: • ”White” people, generally, produce more questions, and more answers, about more things, than all of the “Black” and/or “non-white” people of the known universe combined. • In the process of producing many questions and many answers, great numbers of “white” people discovered that they had learned more, and knew more, about more different things, than all of the “Black” and/or “non-white” people of the known universe combined. • In the process of learning, many “white” people discovered that when they had sexual intercourse with “Black” people, any off-spring produced were usually not a nearer “like-ness” of themselves. The off-springs were “non-white” in appearance, and/or “classification”, MOST of the time. • Being, collectively, “smarter” than Black people, being incapable of producing “white” off-spring through sexual intercourse with them, and “fearing” the ability of Black people to produce people of all “colors” as well as the “non-color” [i.e. “white”], many “white” people decided to SUBJUGATE “black” people ----- using “color” as a basis, or “reason”. • The subjugation of people based on color, and/or, by using factors “associated with” color, has resulted in the establishment, maintenance, expansion, and ofttimes refinement of the greatest and MOST EFFECTIVE form of INJUSTICE in the known universe. This injustice is offtimes referred to as “Racism”, and, more specifically referred to as “White Supremacy”. • In the process of making “non-white” people subject to them, those “white” persons who participate in the practice of White Supremacy do so through the greatest and most sophisticated use of deceit, direct violence, and/or the threat of violence, ever devised by people, among the people of the known universe. • White Supremacy (Racism) is now the dominant socio-material force among the people of the known universe, NO major problem(s) in the areas of Economics, Education, Entertainment, Labor, Law, Politics, Religion, Sex or War can be SOLVED as long as White Supremacy exists. It is important to know and understand that one of the basic functions of Racist is to retard and confuse non-white people. Under White Supremacy, ALL NON-WHITE PEOPLE FUNCTION AS RETARDED CHILDREN All persons who directly or indirectly practice White Supremacy are EQUAL TO EACH OTHER in that practice. This is true because each individual act of Racism is interrelated with all other acts of Racism. This means that all white persons who practice Racism in ANY form, are equally as guilty as those white persons who practice Racism in ALL FORMS. Racist Man and Racist Woman, by functioning as the White Nation (White Supremacists, collectively) and by acting to maintain, expand, and/or refine the existence of Racism, have, more than any other creature in the known universe, “violated” the “natural” Law of Compensation. By doing so, they have deliberately forced and/or directed all other creatures---particularly non-white people---to do the same. Two Facts: (1) The WHITE people of the known universe, are collectively, the smartest, AND the most capable, of ALL people, and, (2) The WHITE SUPREMACISTS (racists) are the smartest, and the most capable of ALL the white people. Of all the people of the known universe---both white and non-white---those white people who practice racism (white supremacy) have the GREATEST ABILITY to use truth, and to use it in such manner as to produce justice and correctness, in all place, in all areas of activity, in the shortest period of time. The white people who practice racism know that they could, if they CHOSE to do so, produce justice and correctness among the people of the known universe. They are smart enough to do this. They also know, however, that in the PROCESS of producing justice and correctness, they would also eliminate white supremacy (racism). Knowing this, they have chosen NOT to produce justice and correctness. They prefer to continue to practice white supremacy, though they fully understand that in order to practice white supremacy they must do so by promoting FALSE HOOD, NON-JUSTICE, and INCORRECTNESS. They apparently believe that the value of white supremacy is at least as “valuable” as the practice of justice and correctness. To them, the promotion of white supremacy HAS PROVEN to be, in many respects, “better” than justice, and “better” than correct-ness. The white supremacists (racist) have a TOTAL need to be, and to feel, supreme over ALL non-white people, at ALL times. This supremacy is what they value most, though they know that it can only be maintained by promoting falsehood, non-justice, and incorrectness. Through the skilled use of deceit, direct violence, and/or the threat of direct or indirect violence, the masters of racism (white supremacy) have chosen to continue this practice for no apparent basic reason than to be “proud” of themselves for causing others to be fearful of them, and/or to be dependent upon them. Such a relationship is non-just and incorrect. This is not the way that [any] people should relate to each other. Those white people who practice white supremacy should stop doing so. They should strive to become WISE instead of being satisfied with being “smart”. The knowledge and understanding that they possess is a GIFT. That gift should not be wasted on what is fundamentally an ego-producing enterprise. It is incorrect to squander the gift of knowledge and understanding on the promotion of racism. All knowledge and all understanding should be used to produce a universe in which no people---white or non-white---abuse each other. The basic duty of each and every person in the known universe is to find truth, and to use truth in such manner as to produce justice, and correctness, at ALL times, in ALL place, in ALL areas of activity. In practice, there is no other way for any person in the known universe to “justify” his or her existence. Zevin64, "The rise in popularity of reggae music during the 1970s and the worldwide fame of singer and songwriter Bob Marley, who exhibited dreadlocks for many years, prompted an interest in locks internationally. The anti-establishment philosophy of Rastafari, echoed in much of the reggae of the time, had a particular resonance for left-leaning youth. Like the afro, locks also can have social and political ramifications. For some peoples of African descent, locks are a statement of ethnic pride. Some see them as a repudiation of Eurocentric values represented by straightened hair. For some, the rejection of ideas and values deemed alien to African peoples (which locks embody) sometimes can assume a spiritual dimension. Similarly, others wear locks as a manifestation of their black nationalist or pan-Africanist political beliefs and view locks as symbols of black unity and power, and a rejection of oppression and imperialism. While most Rastafari sects welcome all ethnicities and the history of locks attributes the hairstyle to almost all ethnic groups, some blacks who attach strong ethnic meaning to locks disapprove of the wearing of locks by white people viewing such practice as a form of cultural appropriation." |
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Yeah man it's ridiculous but that's just one of many problems with this film.
300 was worse. The Iranians in that movie was almost entirely black -- most Iranians aren't black but they did this as a way to "mark" the "bad guys."
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Hmm very interesting...I never thought of 300 that way..I try not to think in the capacity of something as being racist so I tend to overlook things that may appear more obvious to others...I have thousands of DVDs and I might have to turn an analytical eye to some of them...see if certain studios/producers/directors do things in certain ways.
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300 was absolutely stupid. I refuse to see movies that stupid. Frank Miller is an idiot and a bigot.
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Does 'light' and 'dark' imagery necessarily correlate with race? When I see Orcs, I just think of them as non-human beings/species and therefore outside of human-related race concepts. But hey, maybe that's just me.
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Nigga, please. If you truly believe what you say, wouldn't those "facts" in essence justify their alleged superiority?
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