Jack/Nick/Adam spoiler - SOD

[Raspberry]

Originally Posted by soapyshelly

There is nothing factual about Sharon having a legal seperation from Jack. she never filed for seperation. She didnt tell Micheal to draw up seperation papers and Jack wasn't served with seperation papers. I dont have a problem with facts because one really good thing about FACTS is that they can be proven with supporting evidence. Without proof it is just opinion












Here is some more dialogue from 1/9/09 that further proves that she had not filed for a legal seperation.
Nick: Look, I really thought you made the right decision when you separated from Jack. I mean, the... (Sighs) The sex addiction and the sleeping with the hookers-- I just, you know, enough was enough, but you never once mentioned divorce.

Sharon: Well, because I was hoping that Jack would get some help, and we would fix this.

and then on 1/22/09 can 1/23/09 US Jack is served with divorce papers.

not divorce and seperation papers and that Divorce paperwork was not signed until April. Therefore no "LEGAL"
it is not customary to do both, it doesnt happen automatically that is just wishful thinking.

Sharon having sex with Nick was exactly the same as Phyllis having sex with Jack. They were both seperated but not legally.

This is known how? Since it was a detail that wasn't addressed on the show, but the writers assuming that the viewers understood how divorce proceedings work. Yes just as the assumption that they weren't legally separated is nothing more than an opinion. Lmbo all the transcript do is support what I've already posted. Which has nothing to do with Sharon being at the cabin with Nick, she was legally separated from Jack having already started the divorce proceedings weeks prior to that. Lol as much as some would like to think that it's the same, it's not. Sharon hadn't been living with Jack as his wife, then boinking Nick minutes after Jack walked out the door, that's all on Phyllis, who has yet to be honest with Nick about sleeping with Jack. Since they swore no more lies or secrets. Which I'm still trying to get, what it has to do with Nick's jealousy about Adam spending time with Sharon, working overtime to try to keep Adam away from Sharon.

[cbrimb]

Originally Posted by Raspberry

This is known how? Since it was a detail that wasn't addressed on the show, but the writers assuming that the viewers understood how divorce proceedings work. Yes just as the assumption that they weren't legally separated is nothing more than an opinion. Lmbo all the transcript do is support what I've already posted. Which has nothing to do with Sharon being at the cabin with Nick, she was legally separated from Jack having already started the divorce proceedings weeks prior to that. Lol as much as some would like to think that it's the same, it's not. Sharon hadn't been living with Jack as his wife, then boinking Nick minutes after Jack walked out the door, that's all on Phyllis, who has yet to be honest with Nick about sleeping with Jack. Since they swore no more lies or secrets. Which I'm still trying to get, what it has to do with Nick's jealousy about Adam spending time with Sharon, working overtime to try to keep Adam away from Sharon.

petitioning the court for a writ of divorce does not make a person "legally separated", not unless said person also pre-filed a petition for a legal separation prior to divorce action, and since Sharon's behavior is almost always scrutinized very closely onscreen, there was no indication given that she filed anything except for the divorce itself....in Sharon's case, since she did not plan for a long drawn-out divorce proceeding, nor did she anticipate that Jack would fight the divorce, there was no need for an actual motion of "legal" separation to be filed....

so, Sharon, like Phyllis, also committed adultery while married....the only difference is she engaged in multiple adulteries, while Phyllis slept only with Jack one time, and taking a page from Sharon's book, "once doesn't count"....

[monilove42]

Originally Posted by Raspberry

This is known how? Since it was a detail that wasn't addressed on the show, but the writers assuming that the viewers understood how divorce proceedings work. Yes just as the assumption that they weren't legally separated is nothing more than an opinion. Lmbo all the transcript do is support what I've already posted. Which has nothing to do with Sharon being at the cabin with Nick, she was legally separated from Jack having already started the divorce proceedings weeks prior to that. Lol as much as some would like to think that it's the same, it's not. Sharon hadn't been living with Jack as his wife, then boinking Nick minutes after Jack walked out the door, that's all on Phyllis, who has yet to be honest with Nick about sleeping with Jack. Since they swore no more lies or secrets. Which I'm still trying to get, what it has to do with Nick's jealousy about Adam spending time with Sharon, working overtime to try to keep Adam away from Sharon.

Exactly the filing of divorce papers do act as a "legal separation"...the divorce filings, (for lack of a better word) trump the separation papers. And how does Jack find out that Sharon has become friends with Adam, I wonder?

[Raspberry]

Originally Posted by cbrimb

petitioning the court for a writ of divorce does not make a person "legally separated", not unless said person also pre-filed a petition for a legal separation prior to divorce action, and since Sharon's behavior is almost always scrutinized very closely onscreen, there was no indication given that she filed anything except for the divorce itself....in Sharon's case, since she did not plan for a long drawn-out divorce proceeding, nor did she anticipate that Jack would fight the divorce, there was no need for an actual motion of "legal" separation to be filed....

so, Sharon, like Phyllis, also committed adultery while married....the only difference is she engaged in multiple adulteries, while Phyllis slept only with Jack one time, and taking a page from Sharon's book, "once doesn't count"....

All one has to understand is that divorce is nothing more than the parties legally dissolving a marriage, in essence it's the separation of the parties, the severance of the marriage. They were legally separated once the divorce papers were filed in Jan of 08. Jack didn't fight the divorce, which is why it was final on 4/3/08. Sharon committed adultery with Nick, not on Jack, who she had no obligations to at that point. Phyllis just out right committed adultery without the benefit of having filed any divorce proceedings, so there's no way to equalize the action's of the two. Rotfl, what multiple adulteries, Sharon wasn't legally bound to anyone at time of her sleeping with Nick, Jack or Billy. I'm dying lmbo here, Phyllis doesn't need to take a page from anyone, she wrote the book on breaking up marriages, sleeping with others that aren't her husband, while married to someone else. Phyllis has cheated in every marriage she's been in, Nick is no different than when she cheated, while married to Danny and Jack.

[Raspberry]

Originally Posted by monilove42

Exactly the filing of divorce papers do act as a "legal separation"...the divorce filings, (for lack of a better word) trump the separation papers. And how does Jack find out that Sharon has become friends with Adam, I wonder?

Exactly monilove, the divorce petition is a form of a legal separation, it puts the public on notice that the marriage is ending. Any attorney worth his salt, files the separation papers at the time the divorce petition is filed. Jack finds out from the man, that just can't stay away from Sharon.

[cbrimb]

Originally Posted by Raspberry

All one has to understand is that divorce is nothing more than the parties legally dissolving a marriage, in essence it's the separation of the parties, the severance of the marriage. They were legally separated once the divorce papers were filed in Jan of 08. Jack didn't fight the divorce, which is why it was final on 4/3/08. Sharon committed adultery with Nick, not on Jack, who she had no obligations to at that point. Phyllis just out right committed adultery without the benefit of having filed any divorce proceedings, so there's no way to equalize the action's of the two. Rotfl, what multiple adulteries, Sharon wasn't legally bound to anyone at time of her sleeping with Nick, Jack or Billy. I'm dying lmbo here, Phyllis doesn't need to take a page from anyone, she wrote the book on breaking up marriages, sleeping with others that aren't her husband, while married to someone else. Phyllis has cheated in every marriage she's been in, Nick is no different than when she cheated, while married to Danny and Jack.

Sharon was still legally married to Jack when she committed adultery with both Nick and Billy....in one conversation at the GCAC when Jack and Sharon reconciled briefly, it was mentioned that the divorce had been "put on hold"....

[Raspberry]

Originally Posted by cbrimb

Sharon was still legally married to Jack when she committed adultery with both Nick and Billy....in one conversation at the GCAC when Jack and Sharon reconciled briefly, it was mentioned that the divorce had been "put on hold"....

The divorce was never put on hold, nor was Sharon legally bound to anyone when she slept with Nick, Jack or Billy.

[sharon_shickfan1]

Originally Posted by cbrimb

Sharon was still legally married to Jack when she committed adultery with both Nick and Billy....in one conversation at the GCAC when Jack and Sharon reconciled briefly, it was mentioned that the divorce had been "put on hold"....

I just checked and Sharon & Jack made no mention of a hault in Sharon's legal seperation with her marital petition. They just said "lets give it another go" not lets stop divorce filings.

http://www.divorcesource.com/promotions/response.shtml

Is an act of legal seperation and or dissolution of marital status from the spouse, and neither Sharon or Jack stop the process. Jack only took advantage of her emotionally unhealthy state of emotions, knowing she was sick, however both times they briefly reconciled, there was no mention of a hault of petition of seperation, just moving in and him making advances knowing she was unhealthy and needed help.

[Coastland]

Originally Posted by soapyshelly;5482797:thanks:

Nobody is saying she and Jack were not seperated


For it to be legal it requires "legal" or in the judicial system action or by judicial decree to be "LEGAL" and no amount of repeating it makes it exist unless one of those two circumstances legal action or a law.

Since GC is in Wisconsin and they have used the laws for that state to tell various stories.

Jack and Sharon were seperated but it wasn't a legal seperation!

I believe you said packing up your crap and moving doesnt equal seperation...I say it does...I never said anything about legal...but thanks

[cbrimb]

Originally Posted by sharon_shickfan1

I just checked and Sharon & Jack made no mention of a hault in Sharon's legal seperation with her marital petition. They just said "lets give it another go" not lets stop divorce filings.

http://www.divorcesource.com/promotions/response.shtml

Is an act of legal seperation and or dissolution of marital status from the spouse, and neither Sharon or Jack stop the process. Jack only took advantage of her emotionally unhealthy state of emotions, knowing she was sick, however both times they briefly reconciled, there was no mention of a hault of petition of seperation, just moving in and him making advances knowing she was unhealthy and needed help.

alrighty then....

[Dredhed]

Seems to me that if simply filing divorce papers means one is legally separated that moving back in and sleeping with your spouse and acting like you might be back together not ONCE but TWICE means that one is no longer legally separated The point is also not whether it was legal but what Sharon did to Jack. Sharon REPEATEDLY gave Jack hope that they could be a duo again and played the back and forth game with him for weeks (maybe even months) while she was bed-hopping with Billy and floor-mopping with Nick on the side. That is why he was so incredibly hurt by what she and Billy did and why he was pissed beyond belief that she had roped him into her WTD lie and making a life together with him when she knew full well the baby was Nick's. If adultery was only about what was "legal" a lot of spouses would get away with a lot of nonsense. But it isn't--adultery is first and foremost about the betrayal of a spouse and the betrayal of one's vows. Which is why Sharon and Phyllis both committed adultery on their spouses.

The only thing that makes Sharon's actions worse in my opinion is that when she cheated on Jack with Billy and Nick she was still using and abusing the man's friendship, his house, and yes his bed. One minute she wanted him to stay away and the next she was begging him for sex. At least when Phyllis slept with Jack, Nick had made it clear to her that their marriage was over by moving out and declaring his desire to be with Sharon. I'm not saying it was right but that is a different ballgame than Jack please don't say no while saying Nick and Billy please don't say no either.

[soapyshelly]

Originally Posted by Raspberry

All one has to understand is that divorce is nothing more than the parties legally dissolving a marriage, in essence it's the separation of the parties, the severance of the marriage. They were legally separated once the divorce papers were filed in Jan of 08. .

If one truely understood the legal system then they would know that filing a petition does not make a legal action it takes that petition being signed by both parties and being granted by a judge to become legally binding. They were not LEGALLY seperated when Sharon and Nick had sex in Feb. Because neither party had signed the paperwork. Filing the petition starts the process, then the papers are served, the parties have X number of days to respond and then a court day is set Sharon was the one who started the proceedings and she did NOT sign until April so it was not legally started until she signed.

[Raspberry]

Originally Posted by soapyshelly

If one truely understood the legal system then they would know that filing a petition does not make a legal action it takes that petition being signed by both parties and being granted by a judge to become legally binding. They were not LEGALLY seperated when Sharon and Nick had sex in Feb. Because neither party had signed the paperwork. Filing the petition starts the process, then the papers are served, the parties have X number of days to respond and then a court day is set Sharon was the one who started the proceedings and she did NOT sign until April so it was not legally started until she signed.

Yes, if one truly understood . Filing for a divorce is legal notice that the marriage is ending, it doesn't get anymore legal than that. It doesn't require that both parties signed for the divorce, it's in the best interest of the defendant/respondent to the petition for divorce to respond, but still not required. Divorce proceedings filed January 8, lovemaking with Nick Feb 3, sounds to me like that legal notice of the marriage ending was in full force, with Jack discussing having received the divorce papers at the cabin on 1/23/09. April 3, is when the divorce was final, not the start of it. What does that have to do with Nick being jealous of Adam spending time with Sharon, now enlisting Jack's help, to keep Adam away from Sharon?

[soapyshelly]

Originally Posted by Raspberry

Yes, if one truly understood . Filing for a divorce is legal notice that the marriage is ending, it doesn't get anymore legal than that. It doesn't require that both parties signed for the divorce, it's in the best interest of the defendant/respondent to the petition for divorce to respond, but still not required. Divorce proceedings filed January 8, lovemaking with Nick Feb 3, sounds to me like that legal notice of the marriage ending was in full force, with Jack discussing having received the divorce papers at the cabin on 1/23/09. April 3, is when the divorce was final, not the start of it. What does that have to do with Nick being jealous of Adam spending time with Sharon, now enlisting Jack's help, to keep Adam away from Sharon?

Still one must understand that filing is ONLY the first step and that nothing is legal until all criteria is met INCULDING, a minimum of 120 days from filing. Futhermore since the only basis in Wisconsin for divorce is irrepairable differences, Sharon playing revolving door sleeping with Jack voided the original filing.

As your dates show Sharon spoke to her lawyer on 1/7, on 1/23 the courts served the paper work giving Jack 30 days to respond, from 1/23 to 2/3 is barely a week which is why they were still legally married though seperated.

As to what this has to do with the OP It is my opinion that after the horribe way Sharon treated Jack he should leave her to her own defenses.

Sharon should learn life lessons and pay attention to warnings from others instead of acting like a defiant child determined to do the opposite of what she is told.

[Raspberry]

Originally Posted by soapyshelly

Still one must understand that filing is ONLY the first step and that nothing is legal until all criteria is met INCULDING, a minimum of 120 days from filing. Futhermore since the only basis in Wisconsin for divorce is irrepairable differences, Sharon playing revolving door sleeping with Jack voided the original filing.

As your dates show Sharon spoke to her lawyer on 1/7, on 1/23 the courts served the paper work giving Jack 30 days to respond, from 1/23 to 2/3 is barely a week which is why they were still legally married though seperated.

As to what this has to do with the OP It is my opinion that after the horribe way Sharon treated Jack he should leave her to her own defenses.

Sharon should learn life lessons and pay attention to warnings from others instead of acting like a defiant child determined to do the opposite of what she is told.

Nothing is changing the fact that legal notice was given that there was a divorce in process, the waiting period has no baring on the fact of the legal separation that was in place. The divorce was never voided, nor protested. Real life has no precedence in a soap, which is based in fiction, with the occasional PSA done on the show. The divorce was final on 4/3/09. We agree Jack and Nick both should mind their own business, leaving Sharon alone, it's her life to live as she sees fit, her mistakes to make, if she makes any. Nick's jealousy isn't going to change, what Sharon does or doesn't do. Sharon is a grown woman, she doesn't need to adhere to anything either of her former husbands are saying. To which neither of the former husbands have a track record of being worthy, to even try giving Sharon any advice, with their behavior whiles married to her.

[cajungranny]

Originally Posted by PhylFan

I'm confused I thought everyone wanted Nick to butt out because Sharon doesn't "need protection"? Yet everyone seems happy with this spoiler.

Not everyone. I love that Nick can't stay away from Sharon.

[Mikey'sGirl]

Originally Posted by cajungranny

Not everyone. I love that Nick can't stay away from Sharon.

I love that it makes Phyllis nuts

[soapyshelly]

Originally Posted by Mikey'sGirl

I love that it makes Phyllis nuts

Phyllis isn't the on who is nuts!

Phyllis is gonna be part of the protection for Sharon, poor thing there she is thinking what a good friend she has.

[Dredhed]

Originally Posted by soapyshelly

Still one must understand that filing is ONLY the first step and that nothing is legal until all criteria is met INCULDING, a minimum of 120 days from filing. Futhermore since the only basis in Wisconsin for divorce is irrepairable differences, Sharon playing revolving door sleeping with Jack voided the original filing.

As your dates show Sharon spoke to her lawyer on 1/7, on 1/23 the courts served the paper work giving Jack 30 days to respond, from 1/23 to 2/3 is barely a week which is why they were still legally married though seperated.

As to what this has to do with the OP It is my opinion that after the horribe way Sharon treated Jack he should leave her to her own defenses.

Sharon should learn life lessons and pay attention to warnings from others instead of acting like a defiant child determined to do the opposite of what she is told.

Sharon is like a child who deliberately burns herself on the stove over and over and over. No matter how angry it makes you, the responsible adults around will always step in to make sure the kid doesn't hurt his or herself. Jack and Nick (and likely Phyllis) working to keep Sharon from getting burned for the zillionth time in her pathetic life makes sense because they understand Adam and his motivations and they are not going to just stand around and let him hurt people just because it's someone as dense as Sharon. They will do what is right because no matter how much dirt Sharon does they care about Noah and would never wish harm on his thoughtless mother. And thank goodness for that too, otherwise his life would be a hot mess once again because mommy can't help but fall for whatever man smiles in her direction.

Originally Posted by soapyshelly

Phyllis isn't the on who is nuts!

Phyllis is gonna be part of the protection for Sharon, poor thing there she is thinking what a good friend she has.

[Coastland]

Originally Posted by cajungranny

Not everyone. I love that Nick can't stay away from Sharon.

Originally Posted by Mikey'sGirl

I love that it makes Phyllis nuts

Me too...on both counts!