Can a soap make it if..

[krista2432]

Okay there some rumors floating around that One Life To Live wont be on much longer because its on the East coast by itself.. I guess what i'm asking can a soap make it being the only soap on one coast? while the others are in LA.. I love OLTL with all my heart its the best soap out there.. I was wondering if a soap could make it without needing another back up soap on the same coast as them?

I wanna believe OLTL can make it and I want them to prove everyone wrong since they are not based in LA.. I don't think ever soap should be based in LA JMO!

[Ejstheman]

I read the rumor bout OLTL,,if its cancelled I will be sad.The writing for that show,is heads and tails above the writing on DOOL..I think its just due to the low ratings..maybe they need to change the time slot.SHocker of shocks..I was flipping,Mon,and Y&R has been moved to 3 pm here.A better time I think.I would really hate it too go.I think DH about killed it,when she was writing there,and they have so many great actors and actresses..it would be shame

[Red Angelus]

Well ATWT is still in NYC, well Brooklyn. However, its most likely their contract will not get renewed next spring either.

[krista2432]

Originally Posted by Ejstheman

I read the rumor bout OLTL,,if its cancelled I will be sad.The writing for that show,is heads and tails above the writing on DOOL..I think its just due to the low ratings..maybe they need to change the time slot.SHocker of shocks..I was flipping,Mon,and Y&R has been moved to 3 pm here.A better time I think.I would really hate it too go.I think DH about killed it,when she was writing there,and they have so many great actors and actresses..it would be shame

I don't want OLTL to go anyplace.. but than again look how many times they said DOOL would be gone.. and its still standing! Maybe they are blowing smoke?

DH ruined OLTL when she was writing OLTL.. I don't know if you was watching when DH was writing for OLTL but she butcher OLTL totally!

I think it just a lame excuse because OLTL will be the only soap on the East Coast.. not every soap should be in LA???

[krista2432]

Originally Posted by Red Angelus

Well ATWT is still in NYC, well Brooklyn. However, its most likely their contract will not get renewed next spring either.

so ATWT is still east coast.. so not every soap is in LA.. two soaps are on the east?

[prfan2005]

None of the genre can make it much longer, imo, for a couple of reasons.
Network greed is a huge factor. Quality has long since been let go. Look at prime time. Reality shows or formula shows.
Bad writers are a dime a dozen. GOOD writers who believe in character driven stories are rarely hired......
production types valued by networks are schock, silliness and tabloid mentality.

Deranged characters like we see on all the soaps are really popular. One, they can be written off easily. Also, it takes little or no talent to do this same old, same old, crazy woman/man cannot take rejection.
Bad, dull actors are apparently loved by certain producers because they have no attachment or investment in their characters or in history.

And the audience has changed. I know I am out of sync with what many consider good. I find repetitive silly stories of women kidnapping men to be eye rolling embarrassments. I find over the top characters hard to take for more than short stints. I do not relish thugs and felons as the lead characters.

I think the tabloid mentality of this genre and many other shows has made it clear. Character driven stories are gone forever.

[Ejstheman]

Originally Posted by krista2432

I don't want OLTL to go anyplace.. but than again look how many times they said DOOL would be gone.. and its still standing! Maybe they are blowing smoke?

DH ruined OLTL when she was writing OLTL.. I don't know if you was watching when DH was writing for OLTL but she butcher OLTL totally!

I think it just a lame excuse because OLTL will be the only soap on the East Coast.. not every soap should be in LA???

I remember when we had lots of soaps filmed in NY,,The Edge of Night and Ryans Hope,Another World,AMC.I think they are okay for one more year,,I think thats what the article said.I think it was just a wakeup call to fans,to support their show

[krista2432]

Originally Posted by Ejstheman

I remember when we had lots of soaps filmed in NY,,The Edge of Night and Ryans Hope,Another World,AMC.I think they are okay for one more year,,I think thats what the article said.I think it was just a wakeup call to fans,to support their show

I'm still writing in for AMC and OLTL and all my favorite soaps..

[7molly]

OLTL is a better soap than Days. I would hate to see it go.

[ejsmokinhot]

oltl is the only soap i watch besides days. i hope they can make it. i tune in occasionally.

[sundream]

Originally Posted by Ejstheman

I read the rumor bout OLTL,,if its cancelled I will be sad.The writing for that show,is heads and tails above the writing on DOOL..I think its just due to the low ratings..maybe they need to change the time slot.SHocker of shocks..I was flipping,Mon,and Y&R has been moved to 3 pm here.A better time I think.I would really hate it too go.I think DH about killed it,when she was writing there,and they have so many great actors and actresses..it would be shame

The sad thing is IMO what DH is doing to DOOL is worse. I too would be sad if OLTL went off the air.

[greta2242]

Originally Posted by prfan2005

None of the genre can make it much longer, imo, for a couple of reasons.
Network greed is a huge factor. Quality has long since been let go. Look at prime time. Reality shows or formula shows.
Bad writers are a dime a dozen. GOOD writers who believe in character driven stories are rarely hired......
production types valued by networks are schock, silliness and tabloid mentality.

Deranged characters like we see on all the soaps are really popular. One, they can be written off easily. Also, it takes little or no talent to do this same old, same old, crazy woman/man cannot take rejection.
Bad, dull actors are apparently loved by certain producers because they have no attachment or investment in their characters or in history.

And the audience has changed. I know I am out of sync with what many consider good. I find repetitive silly stories of women kidnapping men to be eye rolling embarrassments. I find over the top characters hard to take for more than short stints. I do not relish thugs and felons as the lead characters.

I think the tabloid mentality of this genre and many other shows has made it clear. Character driven stories are gone forever.

I think that the fans want a certain thing, but over all on prime time soaps it's just a few characters that we really get into the heads off. The rest are there to drive the show, but on an evening show, the stars are center stage. It matters what happens to them. It matters what others do to them.

What is missing on DOOL is just this line. We have interaction without heart connecting the stories together. Was I too root or hate Nicole according to the show? I don't know the angle that the writers wanted. The line was blurred. I cannot stand Sami and I prefer Nicole, but was that how I was supposed to feel? I don't know if we need to be in the head of every character, but I really do want to be in the head of a few. I might not have liked Reilly's style of storytelling, but he could when he wanted deliver on the heart. I don't know of any writer who has given us clear lines since him.

[Skatergirl_2308]

Originally Posted by prfan2005

None of the genre can make it much longer, imo, for a couple of reasons.
Network greed is a huge factor. Quality has long since been let go. Look at prime time. Reality shows or formula shows.
Bad writers are a dime a dozen. GOOD writers who believe in character driven stories are rarely hired......
production types valued by networks are schock, silliness and tabloid mentality.

Deranged characters like we see on all the soaps are really popular. One, they can be written off easily. Also, it takes little or no talent to do this same old, same old, crazy woman/man cannot take rejection.
Bad, dull actors are apparently loved by certain producers because they have no attachment or investment in their characters or in history.

And the audience has changed. I know I am out of sync with what many consider good. I find repetitive silly stories of women kidnapping men to be eye rolling embarrassments. I find over the top characters hard to take for more than short stints. I do not relish thugs and felons as the lead characters.

I think the tabloid mentality of this genre and many other shows has made it clear. Character driven stories are gone forever.

Yeah I agree with these post. Very few networks care about the having good shows and will just put on the cheapest to produce. I am out of sync with what people consider good I would rather watch older clips than the newer stuff for the most part. I just hope that Dool and the Abc soaps can pull out another decade but we will see.