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iktarr
07-11-2001, 10:31 PM
ITS a great teaser trailer...IT comes out strong and ends with you wanting more web-slinging action!!!!

Iktarr TX

DarthBrian
07-12-2001, 01:11 AM
No offense, but that teaser sucked.
It didn't make me want to see the movie any more than I currently do. In fact, I now am not as anxious to see it.
Especially if it's going to just be more ****py footage like that.
I'm sorry, I love Raimi and I really think he's the man for the job, but that teaser was horrible.
Horrible horrible horrible.

we_are_venom
07-12-2001, 01:32 AM
Who ever does not like the teaser trailer IS
either insane or disillusioned. IT Rocks and leaves you wanting more.

Wolverina05
07-12-2001, 01:53 AM
I agree with iktarr, AWESOME TRAILER! It was great, I would pay to see that all on it's own again! Not only was the trailer awesome, after they showed it the entire audience cheered it on, clapping and everything, myself included. The movie didn't even get that kind of response! (And I did enjoy FF) Not only did they totally grip my attention, it completely makes me want to see the movie! I HIGHLY Recommend it!

PS. Darth Brian, go back to the Death Star.

Bubba6654
07-12-2001, 02:51 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>On 07.12.01Â*at 01:11, DarthBrian posted:
No offense, but that teaser sucked.
It didn't make me want to see the movie any more than I currently do. In fact, I now am not as anxious to see it.
Especially if it's going to just be more ****py footage like that.
I'm sorry, I love Raimi and I really think he's the man for the job, but that teaser was horrible.
Horrible horrible horrible.[/quote]

The one before the Final Fantasy movie? I thought it looked pretty good. The movie is like, what, a year from release. Of course they're only going to show some peripherie action (like the bank robbery and the get away) and just enough of "Spider-Man" to whet the pallet (SM swinging through New York after he caught the "bad guys" in his web he made between the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center). I think it rocked.

DarthBrian, I am not convinced you even saw the trailer and just came in here just to BS. As evidenced by the lack of detail about the trailer in your post.

****py footage?? You must be joking, right? Or on drugs or something. Angel dust maybe?

Bubba6654
07-12-2001, 03:02 AM
I think I know what DarthBrian is talking about. The test footage on the Spider-Man movie network site. Yeah. That footage is pretty bad (grainy and the compression wasn't very good). It has no sound either. But it does show you (if you imagine it cleaned up a little) what to expect in quiet scenes in the movie.

fancydan58
07-12-2001, 03:06 AM
I loved it, wished they would have played it twice! It went so fast, now I can't wait to get it online tomorrow so I can study it more. The twin tower web thing? Corny? Cheesy? Maybe...........so what? I thought it was cool, and can't wait to see more!

Hopefully at ComicCon next week! I'm there all four days, anyone else?

DarthBrian
07-12-2001, 07:45 AM
I saw the trailer.
It started out with a shot of New York.
Zoom in on a bank.
There's a robbery.
One of the guys says "This'll be over in 30 seconds"
They get some money.
Go to the roof.
Get in a helicopter (Pretty rich thieves to have a helicopter as a getaway vehicle)
They fly away.
They think they're scot free.
All of a sudden they stop.
They're being pulled backwards by something.
They don't know what it is.
They have an overhead shot where you can see a think line.
All of a sudden they're hanging upside down.
Pull out to show helicopter stuck in a giant web between the Trade Towers.
Then they show a bunch of scenes of Spidey swinging through New York city.
The best of which was when he swoops low to the ground and you see the people moving in the streets and the traffic and all the little direction arrows on the lanes in the road.
Yeah yeah yeah. I saw it. The CGI looked rough in most of those scenes. The idea of Spider-Man going through all the trouble of building a giant web between the buildings is dumb. The idea of him catching the helicopter with a web and being able to pull it with such ease right where he wants in the middle of the web, not to mention New York City, is dumb.
Also, what if the cops or whoever aren't able to get the crooks out of the web after an hour when the webs dissolve?
Bye bye crooks. And now Spider-Man is now a wanted murderer.
Great. Just great.
You're all under the age of 13 aren't you? Cuz that's who this trailer was targetted at.

korangar
07-12-2001, 09:18 AM
You are one of those people who over analyze everything aren't you?

First of all - This is a movie based off a comic book NOTHING is ever EXPECTED to be 100% realistic not to mention accurate (I.E. your comment about the helicopter in the middle of the web "No Way") The helicopter in the middle was ment more as an attention getter not "hey how accurate and close tothe laws of Physics etc can we make this."

I would not recommend you see this movie or any comic book based movie - hell you probably shouldn't read comics at all beccause they are not realistic enough for you, or because the logic in one scene does not mesh with the real world.

Oh BTW! The Helicopter between the trade towers how are we not to know if he got the crooks out or if the cops were able to get them ? THIS WAS A TRAILER and as we all know TRAILERS are just a few select scenes or sequences that do not always fit together the EXACT same way in the movie.

IN SHORT--
DARTHBRIAN -- Go crawl buck under that Reality rock you came from.

Korangar -Out!

sarah141
07-12-2001, 09:54 AM
i just saw the spiderman teaser trailer on aint ti cool news and i liked it, (even though there was no sound on it) i cant wait for the offical trailer where we see norman and everbody else.

Bubba6654
07-12-2001, 09:55 AM
"Oh no! They didn't make the movie the way I, and I alone imagined it!! Oh the horror!"

Whatever!

Now you're just trying to save face by trying to back up your "arguement" now that you've seen the trailer. You're a bigger nerd than I gave you credit for.

"Oh my god! They didn't make MY Spider-Man the way I wanted it! Boo hoo!"

Listen up. Just like the X-Men film, there are going to be some things that you might not like. Like in the movie, Wolverine didn't wear his trademark yellow spandex costume. Boo hoo. Big deal. Some wanted the yellow costume, but it prooved that the black leather was better than anybody had thought. And the fact that bobby Drake was way younger than he really is compaired to such team members as Scott and Jean. Did that make you want to wet your pants in frustration? Feh, whatever. Do you want everything to be just like the comicbook? You want everything to be just for the geeks? Tough! The SM movie won't be out until a year from now. Oh oh! Ok, I bet you want the precise time to release: 295 days. Happy?

Oh, BTW. I'm 23. No, I'm not making that up like I'm sure you will (oh, and I bet you'll say "I'm 50 so I know more than you, you little punk!") just so you can somehow be better than the rest of us. Yeah, I can see your kind miles away. You have some sort of insecurity problem and thus you say stuff like "I bet you're all 13 years old". It's a sure sign that you've been backed into a corner. What? Did you go to see Final Fantasy after your first post, see the trailer, wondered "Oh. This is good. I'm gonna look like a complete fool if I don't defend myself. I'll go home right now and say that it was totally stupid just to save face.", leave before the movie began (because you just have to be a weenie (I had another word in mind, but I doubt they'll let me say it)), and got home just in time for your afternoon snack and a quick visit back to these forums just so you can be the total opposite of what everybody else is saying (because you think it's cool going against the grain), and step back just to see the hillarity ensue? It's be my guess. Admit it, you get a hard on just by seeing your own words making other people annoyed. Oh, no, please continue. It's funny seeing your frustration build everytime your posts don't get the reaction you "needed" (like a drug, huh?)

But then again. Everybody has different tastes. Some people like corn on the cob. Others like the the cob that comes out of a corn hole. To each their own I suppose.

And, I've been reading Spider-Man since I was 14. I've seen numerous interpretations of the origin, the mythos, and the characters. I am very open to different takes on the series. And that doesn't come from a "collector's" POV or an "investor's" POV, that comes from someone who loves the art of storytelling. Someone who hasn't become snobbish in behavior. Someone who has refused the comic reading elite's invitation based on principle. Can you relate? Doubtful.

Bubba6654
07-12-2001, 09:58 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>On 07.12.01Â* at 09:18Â*, korangar posted:
Oh BTW! The Helicopter between the trade towers how are we not to know if he got the crooks out or if the cops were able to get them ? THIS WAS A TRAILER and as we all know TRAILERS are just a few select scenes or sequences that do not always fit together the EXACT same way in the movie.[/quote]

Ex-freakin-actly! You hit the nail on the head.

DarthBrian
07-12-2001, 10:07 AM
Who said anything about not liking the trailer because it's not how I wanted it to be.
The Phantom Menace was nothing like I expected. Does that mean I hated it? No, cuz it was a great movie. IMO. Many people disagree and I don't give a **** about them. Their problem if they don't like it.
But as a "teaser" it failed. And failed miserably because there was nothing about the trailer that screamed "you must see this". Simple as that. My whole problem with the helicopter is just a nitpick of a much larger issue. And that is that the trailer sucks.
I'm not saying the movie is gonna suck. I would never say that and mean it with as little information as I have. But if the movie is even a little bit like the trailer, I am not very optimistic.
You're the people experiencing some weird sort of cognitive dissonance where you've been waiting umpteen years for a spider-man movie and you're gonna love every frelling moment of waiting and waiting and waiting. I know all about this. I've been there. See Phantom Menace comment above. But the fact of a movie not meeting my expectations did not prevent me from enjoying a very good movie. Would I have liked TPM to be exactly like I expected it to be. Well, yeah. I think I've got some **** good ideas.
But ultimately it's the director's film and he can do what he wants as long as it's his creation.
If this movie was called "Sam Raimi's Spider-Man" I wouldn't be complaining about the webshooters just like I didn't complain about Sleepy Hollow not following the original short story because the movie was not called "The Legend of Sleepy Hollow". It was called "Tim Burton's Sleepy Hollow".
So for all you people who misread my comments and thought I was bashing the film because I didn't like a stupid little teaser trailer, maybe you're the ones who should get a life because you obviously don't respect anybody's opinion that differs from your own.
Talk about whiny little babies.
Oh no, he's dissed the trailer I love and admire oh so much. We must beat him down with a verbal shillelagh.

kuno75
07-12-2001, 10:10 AM
hey this is my first and probably only message..People lighten up..spider-man is not i repeat not supposed to be realistic in any way..i mean its a comic book for pete's sake..i thought the trailor was fun and fast paced..exactly the way the character of spidey is supposed to be..if he was supposed to be realistic then they would just call him man-man.....all im saying is give it a chance...fans finally get a comic book movie where the costume the actor and the director is right on the money..and we get it with te greatest comic book hero of all time!


ps for all the people out there still downing the movie i have one question for you........
"How is your Spider-Man movie coming along?"

Gravity382
07-12-2001, 10:12 AM
You liked the phantom menace? god.

I haven't heard many opinions on Final Fantasy. I'm assuming lots of you saw it. Since it was an actual complete movie, it's safe to pass judgement on it, so what are some opinions? Are you looking forward to a new Square Pictures release? Should they have gone fantasy instead of sci-fi?

kuno75
07-12-2001, 10:14 AM
CG-i gave two big thumbs up

Plot-i gave it the middle finger

DarthBrian
07-12-2001, 10:14 AM
"You liked the phantom menace? god."

Thank you for proving my point. :)

hiruu
07-12-2001, 10:18 AM
Some folks just trip me out with the technical details that they complaint about. From scrounging the spidey boards, the general reaction has been YEAH BABY!!!, but you have these guys with over-analytical complaints:
-Spidey's not that strong
-CGI is too CGI-ish, HUH?????????
-Here's a good one, why did they cast David Hyde Park for the role...I'm not even sure it's him, but anyway!

These folks need to get a life, first they didn't analyze the trailer correctly, because they would have released that it wasn't one full scene, but instead a jumble and hash of clips that might not even be in the final product! It's 10 months to the movie, so don't expect a full trailer,...heck that was only 30 secs or so. If you didn't feel the immense energy geenrated by the Trailer, well then you well as may skip the movie. YOU HAD SPIDERMAN SWINGING THROUGH THE BIG APPLE,....SPIDERMAN!!! For me personally, it was paradise,...I've been a spiderman fan for a very very long time, and seeing a live action movie is divine!

kuno75
07-12-2001, 10:21 AM
well said hiruu

DarthBrian
07-12-2001, 10:26 AM
Yeah, okay. Woo hoo. We get to see a not-that-great CGI Spidey swinging through New York.
Yeah, I know he'll probably look better in the final product.
Yeah, I know the helicopter thing is not realistic.
Yeah, I know I shouldn't be reviewing a teaser trailer for crying out loud.
But I went to see Final Fantasy with two of my friends. After the trailer was over with, we all said "That sucked". My friends and I never agree on things like this usually. On this we agreed completely.
Everything about this trailer screamed ****fest. If they couldn't give us a trailer that had as close to final CGI as possible, then they should have frelling waited.
I would have actually preferred that they show a teaser without any footage whatsoever.

ronwlim
07-12-2001, 11:04 AM
DarthBrian,
I have no problem with your criticism of the trailer, but when you attack those who liked the trailer with comments like "You're all under the age of 13 aren't you? Cuz that's who this trailer was targetted at"... that's crossing the line. It is not your right to pass judgement on others OPINIONS.

That said, I really liked the trailer. Sorry that you didn't.
Best,
ron

Deep_Blue
07-12-2001, 11:28 AM
I Was Watching It In The Theaters And It TOTALLY KICKED ***. Everyone Was Cheering When They Saw Spider-Man Pop Up And Finally Realised What The Trailer Was For And They Were Getting Histerical Till That ONE Moment At The End Of The Trailer Where It Basically Said: "- -Next Summer."- -And Everyone Was Like: "11 Months?!- -****!"

Boingo
07-12-2001, 11:51 AM
As a fellow message board member, I appreciate your feelings towards the DarthBrian posts. I share some similar feelings as Darth does, but I can also respect a difference of opinion from others on this board. I can agree about your feelings on Darth's "13 year old" statement, but Wolverina05, Bubba6654, and Korangar did make far more bitter statements towards DarthBrian first. I can certainly understand where Darth's frustration came from.

Wishing for more civil discussions and debates.
~Boingo

kaiken
07-12-2001, 12:00 PM
th trailer was tiiight i can wait for the movie i loved the camera angles love to see how fast spidey really i on film they captured spidey perfectly...

zotchman
07-12-2001, 12:09 PM
For one thing, let me say that I actually was impressed with the trailer and its premise - namely that there is a super hero in town with a new take on "catching" crooks.

Though the CG of Spidey swinging through the buildings may have been a bit cartoon-ey (IMO), the trailer left this 30 y.o. gripping for more. Like some kid.

The best aspect of the trailer? The camera backing away as we see the crooks caught in a realistic looking, glistening web between the twin towers. Just dangling. Caught

DarthBrian
07-12-2001, 12:50 PM
Yeah, you're right. I'm sorry. But I was being attacked by people who don't respect my opinion.
One person told me to go back to the DeathStar if you'll recall. :)

But I still think the trailer was targetted at 13 year-old because the movie's gonna be PG-13 and that's their target audience.
Not younger kids.
Not older fans like myself. They don't need to target fans like me, they figure I'm a spidey wh0re and I'll show up no matter what. They're probably right.

But I still contend that the whole helicopter thing is TOO unrealistic. Obviously it's based on a comic book and you've got to suspend your disbelief a little bit. But that was going a little too far, IMO.

KH_KD_4evr
07-12-2001, 01:23 PM
Alright, I get the point you and your friends saw the trailer and you three didn't like it. But look at how many people did. I mean I wanted to see more of the movie then what they should, so the concept of a Teaser Trailer worked on me. And if you think about it Post Pre-Duction will be going on for a long time. They have plenty of time to make Spidey better and so on. Think about it, they wanted to get the word out about the movie to people who don't know A.S.A.P. so the Hype will be bigger when it comes time for the movie to come out. All it was, was a few clips to peek the interest of people. And if you and your friends are the only three who didn't like the trailer are part of the minority then the Teaser did it's job in getting the Majority pumped up for it. Not everyone is going to like Teaser Trailers, however, I liked this one and just want to see more.

DarthBrian
07-12-2001, 01:32 PM
No, we're just a minority compared to the feelings of the people on the "Official Spider-Man: The Movie Message Board".
Obviously more people who are members here are leaning towards the "I don't care how little sense it makes, if it's pretty I'm gonna like it" persona. And I'm not saying that you are.
I'm a minority even in the respect of the organics vs. mechanical webshooters on this board too. But talking to people I know (In real life!) all of my friends (not just those two) think it's a stupid idea. A lot of them don't care, but logically, they say, the mechanicals make more sense. But again, that's just me explaining it to them. Maybe if somebody else presents the other side to them, they would swing the other way (no pun intended).
Suffice it to say, I thought the teaser sucked and so did a lot of people. They just might not be posting here.
Go to some of the other boards and see what they think.

venom11
07-12-2001, 02:32 PM
Okay just everybody relax. So DarthBrian (I hope I spelled it right using lowercase) did not like the teaser and seemed a bit harsh about it. He is entitled to his opinion. I loved Final Fantasy and REALLY REALLY LIKED the SPIDER-MAN TEASER. I did the SPIDER-MAN bit it all capitals so hopefully no one would think I was coming here to specifically promote Final Fantasy. Sorry the teaser disappointed you DarthBrian. Hopefully you'll like the movie better.

venom11
07-12-2001, 02:36 PM
Sorry about the misspelled word(s) folks. The line should say SPIDER-MAN bit in and not bit it!!

DarthBrian
07-12-2001, 02:37 PM
I hope so too.

Really. I do. I've been waiting 25 years or so for a good Spidey movie and I hope Raimi doesn't disappoint me.
Even though I hate those frelling organics, the rest of the movie
could be good.
We'll see.

But the trailer still sucked. :D

Have I mentioned that this board really needs smileys???

venom11
07-12-2001, 02:41 PM
Feel better now?

DarthBrian
07-12-2001, 02:45 PM
About What?

:)

venom11
07-12-2001, 02:55 PM
I tried to make you feel better by putting a smiley on the board. One smiley sometimes makes a difference.

That's what I was hoping would make you feel better.

Now have a second smiley!

DarthBrian
07-12-2001, 03:06 PM
No, I mean a smiley within the message.

:) <---- it would turn that into a graphic of an actual smiley face.

:D <-----big toothy grin.

?:| <-----confused

:_| <------ crying

:_) <------- happy crying

::rolls eyes:: <-------- figure it out :)

2fatt
07-12-2001, 03:57 PM
It is just a movie and spiderman isn't real. I just thought I'd remind you of that real quick before your bloodpressure rises to an unhealthy level. Calm down Chief!

manobiznss
07-12-2001, 04:22 PM
_________________________________________________
Yeah, okay. Woo hoo. We get to see a not-that-great CGI Spidey
swinging through New York.
Yeah, I know he'll probably look better in the final product.
Yeah, I know the helicopter thing is not realistic.
Yeah, I know I shouldn't be reviewing a teaser trailer for crying out loud.
But I went to see Final Fantasy with two of my friends. After the trailer was over with, we all said "That sucked". My friends and I never agree on things like this usually. On this we agreed completely.
Everything about this trailer screamed ****fest. If they couldn't give us a trailer that had as close to final CGI as possible, then they should have frelling waited. I would have actually preferred that they show a teaser without any
footage whatsoever.
_____________________________________________

You know when I read stuff like this I just shake my head at how interestingly negative some people are determined to be about the genre of comic books and movies. I remember the boards for Phantom Menace too, and I remember how so many attacked every aspect of a movie they did not see, the same people scolded about how the whole experience of The Phantom Menace seem Merchandised, commercialized. Uh-huh. These are the same type of people who complain about the prices of comic books but never ask me when they went to the meeting that told them Marvel and DC were giving the books away for free. Last time I check companies that incorporate tend to be out ot make money or they don't survive. But that's just my bag.
I have also read the reviews of Finale Fantasy, and laughed so hard. I think it was slow in places, more of a sit home and chill out movie then a theater experience, but the animation was absolutely incredible, and that is what I wanted, that is what I paid for and that is what I got. (THANK YOU FINALE FANTASY, it was one HELL of an expierence,) I am one of those crazy fans that says "if they can't do the Avengers on real movie, THIS is the medium they can use.) One day twelve year olds will achieve this on their computers and the industry will have to get better just to stay advanced. But all I wanted from the movie was a REAL step forward in animation, and I got it.
The trailer, had problems. No denying it. I am too old to be fooled by gimmick. But the shots of spider-man swinging? You thought they looked like bad CGI? (Maybe you never caught the television show, I rememberwhen it was new. They didn't really even try back then, they just threw together the show, unlike the later Flash show where they TRIED to stick witihn what made the comic book work.) I am sorry, it is my opinion and I really mean you no personal disrespect, but only the brain dead could have looked at those scenes and come away negative. No, I know the difference between cool and not cool. I have seen some teasers that just sucked (I promised the last board that I wouldn't say JaraSICK PARK (oh my GOD) III. Okay, so I am going to see it because the dinos do look COOL, but common who the heck-o-saraus wants to go back to that place. I guess these are the parents of the kids that applied to work at Camp Crystal Lake year after year. GEEZ.) Bad CGI? Give me a break. Cool as hell - no way you could deny that. AT this stage the teaser we get would be minute scenes that only taste the buds. The took a chance and said, "Here you go, look what we got for you." If you say that people like myself must be 13 to enjoy that trailer, then I say thank God I can remember the joy of suspending belief and going with it at 13. I remember how Terminator was advertise. Just posters of Arnold in the the glasses holding the gun with the little numbers on one glass. It looked COOL. No matter how much the second Conan sucked, you were going to see THIS movie. The trailor for the first Star Trek movie. Star Trek was campy as the rest of the 1960's mix. I don't care how much philsophical **** they put on it now (and I'm guilty of that too), the origanl program was as hokey as Lost In Space and Land of The Giants. But the trailer promise the enterprise with new special effects technology. As ship that LOOKED like a shipand LOOKED like it was going through space and LOOKED like it was approaching planets, dealing with the unknow. Yeah, yeah, it was too long, yadda-yadda-yadda. I got what I paid for.
They gave me Spider-man swinging from building to building, they gave me Spider-man demonstrating his stregth (yes I believe spider-man can web onto and pull a helicopter, and I never excepted in the comic books when they just yanked him up. The helicoper, if you want to talk phsysics, does not stay in the air based on weight, weight is measure to detemine thrust you will need. But Spider-man is supposed to be something like 10 time stronger then the average human, and he can adhere to walls. I am one of those readers who thinks they serverely under use and under estimate spider. (Garth innis did that in PUnisher two and I did nto except it at all, but it was funny as hell on the positive side. I couldn't help but crack up.)
So you determine that you will be negative. Me, I don't care how campy it was, at least they are not trying to have Micheal Keaton or Kirk Russel play Peter Parker. Even if they did, I don't care. Give me more of that webswinging. I'll suspend my imagination and let the 13 year old in me come out sit and enjoy.
And yes, when I go it I will even have my Kid's Meal.

Umar H. Soaries
Your Man of Business

mfhaque
07-12-2001, 05:03 PM
ok first off, for those who are saying the trailer sucks. you got problems, its just a teaser trailer!! ok now..the trailer ROCKS!! i think they finally gonna have a comicbook movie that was made right for once! nomore man-nipples on costume like in the batman movies hehe.

GuyverSD
07-12-2001, 05:55 PM
I saw the trailer about spiderman... in the beginning it cought me by surprise.. I thought it was another action movie. Kinda "Face off" or "SwordFish." I was asking myself, God ****!" all the presision this guys are doing just to steal a back!".. Like one of the robbers said: "Don't worry people, everything will be done in 60 seconds!." The packs of money, the getaway with the arpons to the roof. The helicopter just waiting... Hell!!!!... I wanted to be a bad guy. But when the chopper stopped, I said "What the hell?!?!?" they had the perfect escape!." But they showed the the top and I saw the thin line on the back of the chopper I already knew what it was.
In other words: "THE TRAILER ROOOOCKKKSSS!!!!!"

But I still believe the idea of having a superhero with a red a bleu costume in the daylight, souds kinda of weird. I wonder what kind of story would explin this. hmmm....

Well, I can't wait for May 3rd....

:-(GuyverSD)

TheOracle
07-12-2001, 06:06 PM
I really got to say it. Your four years old aren't you? I mean, only a four year old would banter on like that about what is a great teaser trailer. I am in the film industry, and a teaser trailer should do one thing......tease. It has to have at least one shot of the lead character in full gear. That's pretty much all it needs. I liked the trailer, but that is not the point. The point here is your age. You must be a 4 year old. Only a four year old would rant and rant and continue to rant about something.....um, he didn't even like!!!!

I feel sorry for you. Taking the fun out of all your movies. I bet you saw the Lord of the rings teaser that showed on the net last year and said.."oh that looks soooooo ****py!! It looks all fake, and there are stupid elves and dwarves in it!!", depriving yourself of one joy in films......getting away and escaping into a story, that may or may not be realistic. I've had enough realism in my life, for christs sake! Sometimes I want to be taken to a place that sometimes can't be altogether explained. That, is why it is called FICTION!!!

I bet you poked holes in great movies like Fight Club and The Usual Suspects. You just seem like the type of depressed individual that would do that. Someone, who for all intensive purposes can't seem to find joy in any endevour of his own life, so he picks on other peoples art. Awwww. poor darth.

Do me a favour, and don't ever go to film festivals and see good independant movies either, you'd probably be the guy who talks to himself in the theatre.

I would also like to re-itterate a previous statement.....

How is YOUR Spiderman movie coming along Darth Brian???

The Oracle At Delphi has spoken

Boingo
07-12-2001, 06:45 PM
You demonstrated a complete lack of intelligence or skill at discussion or debate. Instead of attempting to tackle a counter-point style to his position on the trailer, you just attack him personally. Not only do you attack him at a personal level, but you have to create false, and lame assumptions to defend your position.(If you can even call it a position?)

Some members have the capable sense to have a different opnion on the subject, but still respect his. Although; I find your position weak, you have the right to say it, just as DarthBrian has a right. If I were you though, I would attempt it at a different level as to make your argument a strong one... That is ofcourse...if your post was a joke?Mmmmmmm.
-End Communication

TheOracle
07-12-2001, 06:57 PM
My argument was not about the trailer! I was stating the juvenile way in which Darth sated his comments, and so retorted in the same manner.

I will not post a(so-called) review of the trailer. I liked it, that's all you need to know.

To say that my post had no point. Well, I suppose that is a matter of opinion (trying to remind you it WAS NOT an opposing view to the trailer). Being in the film industry I feel that Darth is just one of those people....and believe me I have met a few....who can't seem to get excited, or simply enjoy anything. That was all. I believe I got my point across.

I just said it the way that no one else hed the sheer balls to say it. Flat out told him.

The Oracle

chriscollins94
07-12-2001, 07:33 PM
http://homepage.mac.com/katyarukowski/.Movies/spidey240-10fps.mov

HawaiiSpider
07-12-2001, 07:34 PM
Yeah, got to see the trailer. Pretty cool. Hopefully plot will live up to the hype. If so should be expecting part 2, 3, etc.

One comment though, I would have preferred Doc Ock in this one though. Oh well, if all goes well maybe in part 2!

Boingo
07-12-2001, 07:45 PM
DarthBrian didn't liked the trailer at all. He and some friends thought it "Sucked". Now, as I said in a earlier post, "Sucked" could be looked on as harsh words by some. It doesn't bother me. DarthBrian did however back up his opinion on why he didn't care for it. He didn't just say "Hey everyone this movie sucks" and that was it. He posted why he felt the way he did. Some people don't even do that, and those types I feel are setting themselves up for attack.

Now, DarthBrian's opinion was a conflict for some others who really liked it and it was some of them who made the first personal attack against him. Wolverina05, Bubba6654, and Korangar made the first move against him. Out of frustration, Darth made the "13 year old" comment. Another person and myself didn't feel it was the best choice, but I understand why he said it. Darth even admitted it wasn't the right thing to do.

BTW: You weren't the first one with balls to tell DarthBrian flat out...They just attacked him on a personal level and not on the reasons for why he felt the way he did.

Anyways..He provided reasons for the way he felt and that alone should be what is discussed and debated about...not name calling.......

DarthBrian
07-12-2001, 08:04 PM
this is exatly what ronwlim was talking about. And I apologized for my behavior. What have you done since then?
continue to frelling attack me.
Well, I'm going back on the frelling defensive now.

I saw Phantom Menace 18 times in the theatre.

What does that tell you? Everybody else talks about how much they hated that movie and how Jar Jar sucked and how they want him to die. I loved Jar Jar. I thought he was actually the only character in the whole **** film with any heart and here he is being personally attacked and called a racial stereotype of all things. So why would I be one of "those people" who can't sit back and enjoy anything? And when the Lord of the Rings trailer came out and I watched it, I thought, "holy **** I can't wait for this" because they did what they were supposed to do, make me want to see the frelling movie. The Spidey trailer simply did not make me want to see the movie any more or any less than I already do. So I believe it failed as a trailer (or teaser). Now more of you personally attack me. For what? To make yourselves feel better that you liked the trailer? Hey, you're entitled to your opinion. If you like it so much and are sure it's so great, why are YOU being so **** defensive? Is it possibly because I touched a nerve? Hit too close to home? You know what? I don't care what it is, but the personal attacks are no nice. Techinically I didn't personally attack anybody, but it wasn't a nice thing I said and I apologized for it. I would expect the same of anybody.

And by the way, WHAT FRELLING FLAWS IN FIGHT CLUB WERE THERE??? I think I would have noticed them the 30th time I had watched it. :p

TheOracle
07-12-2001, 08:23 PM
I simply stated my toughts on your thoughts, I apologize for initially attacking you.

I am saying that the teaser was EXACTLY what it was supposed to be. Barring the fact that releasing a teaser before your finished priciple photography and have only a handful of effects shots, not polished ones, done, is not a great thing to do. It shows promise that this flick will be what the comic is, and always has been. action packed and fun! Humour is at the core of spidey. The shot of web on the buildings is an example of that humour. I have my doubts that this....in its entirety anyway will appear in the finished product. Also, why assume that the bad guys don't get down, or rescued? Will police that roam the streets NOT see the giant web between the towers, or the helicopter for that matter? I find it hard to believe that the assumtion is that they die when the webbing dissolves, cause over the course of an hour no one sees it.They will see it, and get thrown in jail, don't worry. Poor logic that's all.

I am going to asume you read my post in the other thread about cg shots in early teasers (read about X-men teaser in the other thread), and realize about having more time with the creations, and work on them.

It is not Sam Raimi's judgement to release a teaser, it is the production company saying, "get a teaser done, I don't care if the cg shots are ready!". He must listen, cause he isn't ponying up the dough, they are. That's why the X-men one was not up to snuff, because the big wigs said that it had to be done, and they have to work with what they can.

all that being said, I appreciate the fact that you stated your thoughts, but give it a chance bro, give it a chance.

sorry if I pissed you off.

The Oracle

DarthBrian
07-12-2001, 08:34 PM
Giving *what* a chance? The trailer? I gave the trailer a chance and you know what I thought about it.
The movie, maybe? I'm gonna give the movie a chance. Since when did I say the movie was gonna suck simply because the trailer sucked (IMO)? Nowhere. All I've been saying, if you'll please listen, is that IF the teaser is a good representation of what the final film is going to be, THEN the movie is gonna suck.
But we won't know that until the movie comes out right?
Which means I'm giving it a chance right?
So who needs to calm down? :)

And I've walked around a city like Chicago and I've seen people walking through a city like Chicago and you know what? I don't think I see them routinely looking upwards for helicopters caught in giant spider webs. :)

All I'm saying about the helicopter thing is that *I* don't think it's at all feasible for anything like that to happen, *even* in a comic book world.

TheOracle
07-12-2001, 08:35 PM
....

DarthBrian
07-12-2001, 08:43 PM
The helicopter?
Well, I don't know, let's find someone with spider powers to attach himself somehow to a building with either his ability to stick to walls or anchoring the webline before he shoots it at a helicopter full of crooks and pulls it right out of midair into a giant spiderweb that he has apparently had the foresight to place between the Twin Trade Towers in New York City ahead of time even though he had no idea if a bank was going to be held up at all.

TheOracle
07-12-2001, 08:52 PM
You don't at all. You want something that is more serious. Have you ever read spidey comics? Since when does the comic not fall on the perfect set of circumstances? Come on! Jeez. I mean, that's like saying that The fact that the senator in X-men was way too in the perfect place at the perfect time to get caught by Mystique and Toad. Come on, or the fact that Neo in the Matrix just happened to go to the right club, on the right night, meet Trinity, who then got him to meet Morpheous. That's just absurd. This is why they call it fiction my friend. What else would you pick on? That the green goblin looks too way out there?? Got news for ya, the character from the comics is way out there.

I just think your handle on the whole idea of fiction is a bit skewed. This movie is not going to be grounded entirely in believable logic, it could never be, so maybe you shouldn't see it then.

I know you say you still want to see it, but maybe your not a fan of the comics, cause comics are not totally grounded in reality.

The Oracle

DarthBrian
07-12-2001, 09:20 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>You don't at all. You want something that is more serious. Have you ever read spidey comics?[/quote]

Have I ever read Spidey comics? Hmmm...let's see, since I was 5. I guess that would make me a reader for 28 years. Which is exactly how long I've been waiting for a good Spider-Man movie. (Except I stopped reading during the Clone Saga. See below comment)

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Since when does the comic not fall on the perfect set of circumstances?[/quote]

Are you a writer? That sentence doesn't make sense at all. I'm very sorry for the personal attack.
BTW, did you write Wing Commander?

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Come on! Jeez. I mean, that's like saying that The fact that the senator in X-men was way too in the perfect place at the perfect time to get caught by Mystique and Toad.[/quote]

No, that was explained pretty well. You see, the Senator is what we in the "industry" call a "public personality". So, therefore, they knew exactly where he was gonna be.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Come on, or the fact that Neo in the Matrix just happened to go to the right club, on the right night, meet Trinity, who then got him to meet Morpheous. That's just absurd.[/quote]

No, it's not absurd. He was "following the white rabbit". We're you NOT paying attention to this movie?

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>This is why they call it fiction my friend. What else would you pick on? That the green goblin looks too way out there?? Got news for ya, the character from the comics is way out there.[/quote]

Again, you're a writer? Too way out there? Did you go to the Chandler Bing School of Writing?

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I just think your handle on the whole idea of fiction is a bit skewed. This movie is not going to be grounded entirely in believable logic, it could never be, so maybe you shouldn't see it then.[/quote]

I do accept the fact that the movie is based on a comic book. But even comic books have rules. Like the fact that a single strand of Spidey's web will only hold so much strength. Check out your copy of The Official Handbook to the Marvel Universe. It's in there. Plus I think they still have SOME of the laws of physics. Otherwise, Spidey's ability to stick to walls wouldn't be so incredible. Which means they have what we in the "industry" call "momentum". When a helicopter flies really really fast, it doesn't like to stop. Especially if someone snags it with what looked like a single strand of webbing. Odds are Spidey would be yanked off the wall he was clinging to in order to get such a great shot and a moving object.
Now, however, if what in fact happened was that the helicopter flew through the already made spider web, the momentum of the helicopter should have pulled the webbing off of the walls of the buildings. Or yanked the bricks or concrete off othe building depending on which is stronger, the webbing or the concrete.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>I know you say you still want to see it, but maybe your not a fan of the comics, cause comics are not totally grounded in reality.[/quote]

As I've already stated, I've been reading them since I was 5. Except I stopped during the Clone Saga cuz that sucked. They were destroying my favorite character. And when somebody does that, I take offense.

TheOracle
07-12-2001, 09:38 PM
Talking about my sentence structure, on the message board, at 1 in the morning....ouch that stung! I am soooo hurt.

What have you written? Didn't think so. Don't criticize what you can't do either.

As far as I am concerned you don't want to suspend disbelief for even two seconds. HAVE FUN, IT.......IS......A........MOVIE. Ooops, did I blow a secret?

Take it easy on the semantics, do you believe that ANY kind of webbing could support a man, let alone a building?

As for my points on other disbeliefs, matrix, and X-men, your just pissed cause they make sense.

later

Gravity382
07-12-2001, 09:59 PM
holy moly, fellas.

DarthBrian
07-12-2001, 10:20 PM
YOu've given me so much ammunition, I don't even know where to begin. :)

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Talking about my sentence structure, on the message board, at 1 in the morning....ouch that stung! I am soooo hurt.[/quote]

Okay, make you a deal. I'll stay up all night one night and you can get some sleep. Then we'll take turns writing sentence after sentence. We'll see who makes more mistakes and then we can declare a winner in this contest. :)

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>What have you written? Didn't think so. Don't criticize what you can't do either.[/quote]

I can write pretty well actually. It's stories that I have a hard time coming up with. :p

BTW, my Mom's an English teacher. She'd slap me silly if I used poor grammar.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>As far as I am concerned you don't want to suspend disbelief for even two seconds. HAVE FUN, IT.......IS......A........MOVIE. Ooops, did I blow a secret?[/quote]

I can suspend my disbelief just fine, thank you. For instance, I can suspend my belief enough to think that a high school kid could come up with a formula for webfluid.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Take it easy on the semantics, do you believe that ANY kind of webbing could support a man, let alone a building?[/quote]


Actually, I read an article about this. It's pretty interesting. It states that "the only manmade material which even comes close to being as strong as spider silk is steel. In fact, for an equivalent weight, the strongest spider silk has a tensile strength that is five times greater than steel. Tensile strength is the amount of longitudinal stress that a substance can tolerate without being torn apart (a measure of how hard can you pull on a string before it breaks)"
So, yes.

This is an interesting article too:
http://english.sohu.com/20001201/file/0888,248,100040.html

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>As for my points on other disbeliefs, matrix, and X-men, your just pissed cause they make sense.
[/quote]

I'll let you slide on this one since it's past 1A.M. where you are. Please rephrase this and I'll make a comment. :)

peer
07-13-2001, 01:58 AM
I agree with Darthbrain, not going into details tho, because there is no need to explain.
Either u see it or u don't, and obviously...most of you don't.

Peer`

spideyfan
07-13-2001, 09:26 AM
Hey everyone, this is my first post on this message board. I've been reading comic books since I was about 8, and have been a spideyfan for that long as well. So I have some opinions of all your opinions of the trailer.
First of all, for people arguing that it's unrealistic, you have a point, but it's way too early to tell. Plus the fact that it's a teaser...it doesn't exactly yell...plot. But for those people who say...it's a comic book movie...it shouldn't be realistic...I highly disagree. I think a comic book movie, to be correctly done...must insert this highly unrealistic hero, into a very realistic world. I look at the first batman movie as an example. That movie was like a crime-drama movie, that just happened to have this guy dressed up as a bat in it. It was awesome...and then as the series went on, you saw the character move into a very corny and unrealistic world.
We also should note, that a teaser isn't just made for all us fans. There were probably people in the theater who were watching the beginning of the trailer thinking...hmmm what is this for...and then when they realized...either didn't care...or were like holy **** that's cool.
This movie isn't being made as a thank you note for fans...it's being made as a movie. I am currently studying computer animation right now in college...and from what I saw in the trailer...I really thought the swinging looked cool, but it's also way too early to tell, plus the fact that it's like 3 seconds, how can u tell if it was good or not.
I for one watched this and was happy to finally see spiderman swinging through the big apple. I've waited for this movie for a long time...back when Cameron was about to make it...and I'm glad it's almost here. It is the movie that could make or break the comic to film industry...so let's hope they can pull it off. ~Later

spiderdan
07-13-2001, 12:03 PM
I thought the trailer was good. I only saw it on the computer and would like to see it on the big screen soon. I have one question for you all, who sings and what is that song that is played. I liked that a lot. Really high energy.

I just hope that the movie doesn't suck. Waited too long, and like the Phantom Menace that might be the problem. Too many high expectations when nothing could ever meet them. But I guess the bottom line is...now the GREATEST Comic Book superhero ever is finally on the big screen where it belongs.

SpdrGrl23
07-13-2001, 12:34 PM
I admit that I am not the Spider Man expert but I am a big fan and when I saw the trailer on my computer, I literally got chills! I am very exicted about this new movie; it looks really cool and I can't wait to see it!

Spider_Man127
07-13-2001, 12:44 PM
Well, I know the movie is gonna rock, probably more then X-MEN, that would be great. But that trailor was good, I already know the cast and Im pretty sure you guys do too, the only person who I think shouldnt have been picked is Toby Maguire for Peter, and I have a question: when spidey is in his costume, are they always gonna do it in CG or only in the city web slinging parts (like in the trailor)? Anyways, the music was cool too ;).

(this is my first post as of July 13th, friday)
________________________________________________

-Marvel Comics fan
-spider-man fan
I can't wait for May 3rd 2002!!!

cavatica
07-13-2001, 04:59 PM
A teaser trailer usually exists to put the movie in everyone's heads...to give them something to talk about. Get to the point about the subject, and let the audience know you've something good to offer.

I think the Spider-Man teaser did just that, esp. when you compare it to last year's teaser trailer. It did the following:

1.) It showed Spider-Man in just the way we're used to seeing him - In New York, in his original costume, and using web shooters (from what we can tell, Thank God!).

2.) It's a comic book movie. A fast action sequence makes sense. Yeah, the thought of catching a whole helicopter in a web is a bit silly, but the heist shows off a general action idea. For something 11 months off, you really don't need to tell a serious story here.

3.) It showed what Sony Imageworks has done since the wall crawling footage and in terms of general effects. Spidey in full swinging action!

I think the reason Sony used the Helicopter in the web sequence was because it was the easiest way to show you what they were talking about without actually saying anything. For X-Men, just hearing the word Mutant, or seeing Wolverine's claws appear was enough to tell you what you were dealing with. I'm willing to bet that anyone watching that teaser in the theatres knew exactly what movie it was for when they either saw the webbing on the back of the copter or saw it caught in the web, in the middle of Lower Manhattan. Straight and to the point. A weird, but good idea.

Episode 1's teaser trailer gave away quite a bit of the story, especially Darth Maul's double bladed lightsaber. As a result, everyone nitpicked and tore it apart until the story was ruined for those who expected something completely different from what they originally saw. This one gives away about as much as A.I. did.

In addition, just because these are the effects you're seeing now, it doesn't mean these are the same effects you'll see in the actual film. In the 1st X-Men teaser trailer, there was a horrible sequence of Wolverine being thrown from Lady Liberty, grabbing the edge and kind of pulling himself up from it. It looked like he was just yanked up with a wire. Fox changed that over to have his claw stick in one of Liberty's spikes and using it to vault himself back up. The effect worked much better in the Final Draft than the Teaser Trailer.

A Teaser's just a taste.

kaiken
07-13-2001, 05:33 PM
i agree with you cavatica i agree..

nap8496
07-13-2001, 05:34 PM
i think they should have had some G. Goblin shots in there to make it better. Or is it too early to see him in action???
their probably waiting till the actual trailer comes out.

cavatica
07-13-2001, 05:42 PM
I think the next trailer would probably do that. It would have to go into depth. I'm just happy they didn't explain everything in this one. Granted, anyone who's picked up the Original Amazing Fantasy #15 or Spider-Man Unlimited #1 once in their life has a rough idea of what the story is about. Still, they don't have to give everything away.

nap8496
07-13-2001, 05:44 PM
How do you know weather it was spider-man pulling it back??? for all we know he could have attached it to the building and the copter just sprung back into the web????
cause if S-M was pulling it. wouldn't the copter be dangling upsidedown??? not going straight into the web. something like that.

nap8496
07-13-2001, 05:47 PM
GO BUBBA!!

nap8496
07-13-2001, 05:49 PM
you never know
darthbrian could be living right next door to you....HEH!

cavatica
07-13-2001, 05:53 PM
What's it matter? It's 5 seconds of film meant to wet your pallette. There's no need to analyze this. A bunch of Advertising guys, Marketing gurus, and FX wizards just sat in a room, drew up some quick storyboards and rolled with it. For all we know, none of this may be in the actual film. It could have been filmed in the same way a Nike commercial was (like Tag).

Still, that's an interesting question.

nap8496
07-13-2001, 05:58 PM
was great, the CG-I was awsome. they're gonna end up replacing actors/actresses one day (that would suck)
it looked really realistic. GO SEE IT!!!! (if you havent already)

nap8496
07-13-2001, 06:01 PM
SHUT THE HELL UP!!!!!!!!!!!

poohdog
07-13-2001, 08:25 PM
I heard that the trailer was going to be shown at the movies soon. I had no idea, while waiting to see Final Fantasy, that the trailer would come on. I nearly missed it. I just took it as another cops and robbers movie of that sort. When I saw the web I was like WHOA! It took me a while to even start paying attention to Final Fantasy becuase I was playing the teaser over and over in my mind. I could not wait to tell a friend of mine about, although he did not share my same enthusiasm. I will defeintely go see this movie SEVERAL TIMES. I will definitely buy the DVD when it comes out. I just know it is going to be awesome.

klynch13
07-13-2001, 09:06 PM
Looks too hard to believe. The look and the feel even the music they used for him swinging felt totally spidey. Can't wait for the next trailer.

WEBHEAD3D
07-13-2001, 09:28 PM
IT'S A TRAILER , FOR CRYIN' OUT LOUD !
GET SOME LIVES !

DarthBrian
07-14-2001, 11:01 AM
I gave reasons why it hitting the web is stupid too.
Read my posts completely through before responding to them.

And, no, I'm not gonna shut up. This is a public forum and I can give my opinions freely.

cavatica
07-14-2001, 12:33 PM
What would your teaser trailer be like? I'm not asking that as a "point a finger at you in blame" type question, but I'm serious.

A friend of mine and I are in the works of writing a Resident Evil Screenplay, because we're sure that the new movie's going to suck. It's our point of view based on the original game and our own input. It's also a good help in letting us learn how to use Final Draft.

Since you felt the teaser wasn't all that great, how would you do it? You gave a good synopsis of the teaser earlier. CGI aside, perhaps your version of the trailer may be better than the original.

mikie
07-14-2001, 01:04 PM
hehe yeah.. spidey... cool trailer.. awesome. if ur a spidey fan of course your gonna love the trailer... keeps ya wanting more.. as for that Darth guy acting all stupid about the way it happens and the outcomes its just plain stupid.. dude.. its a "Movie"... geez buddy.... do you have no imagination whatso ever? you probley read like what... 2 issues of the comic? I kinda wonder about ppl like u... oh wells... thats what getting old does ta ya.. =P
Movies gonna kick arse! hehe i mean its a whole lot better than those old cheezy spidey movies. hehe... man look how far the technologies has gone.. would be cool if they use the story Bendis is giving us. The ultimate spiderman series is pretty neat. well less than a year away. Who cares if its another MK or SF. the point is.. its Spidey!! Live Action! On the Big Screen!! Awesome.........*sigh*

DarthBrian
07-14-2001, 03:19 PM
You could have a good one by opening it up with a close-up of an eyeball.
There's a voice-over talking about fear or something.
As you pull out you can see the eye is wide with fear.
The camera pulls out more and you can see that the person's face is pressed against some kinda netting.
Pull out more and a slight rotation of the camera as you do so...
Eventually pull out enough with the camera rotated 180 degrees from how it was before to show a crook or something hanging from a lamppost in a giant spider-web.

That would be around 30 seconds. You can expand it out to 60 seconds if you want. Just add some montage of Spidey swinging through the streets or something.

nap8496
07-14-2001, 04:03 PM
totally agree with the Doc Ock thing, hopefully he'll appear in the sequal.

nap8496
07-14-2001, 04:11 PM
why don't you two exchange e-mail addresses or icq #'s
and argue about it that way. just a suggestion. you guys are writing alot of **** that doesn't need to be on this message board.

DarthBrian
07-14-2001, 05:00 PM
This is a public forum.
The topic of this thread is "TRAILER Looks good!!"
We were discussing the trailer.
Just because it says "TRAILER Looks good!!" doesn't mean that everybody who posts in it needs to agree.
In fact, that's what public forums are for. To discuss things. Especially topics in which two or more people may disagree.
So why don't you mind your own business, stop pretending at modship, and leave us the frell alone?

GollaFett
07-14-2001, 08:10 PM
i've been a Spider-Man fan since I was about 8. I loved seeing that trailer. I've been hearing about a Spidey movie for god knows how long. Sure, it might not be top quality, but it's early. The first TPM trailer came out 6 months before the movie did. Right now, we are talking about 10 months before Spider-Man comes out. Everybody should just calm down and enjoy the fact that one of your favorite comic book heroes is coming to the big screen, FINALLY! All we have had so far is just a glimpse. And a pretty **** early glimpse at that. Don't read too much into it. Just enjoy it, I know I am.

zooman66
07-14-2001, 08:26 PM
The trailer was good . But I didn't care for the uniform. It should have the black lines, not the silver looking things on it. I know Spidey and it's not him!

Prod
07-14-2001, 10:32 PM
I'm a looong time Spider-Fan (like 25+ years) and I enjoyed the trailer.

I've also enjoyed your posts here, it was fun watching you shoot down that Oracle guy. What a maroon. :)
I'm going to refrain from trying to explain to him why he is so wrong about the Matrix and the X-Men, because it's too much to type.

However, I have to say I disagree with your take on the trailer. While you have made some points about the realism of it, I don't feel that it breaks the laws of "comic-book physics". Sure, it is a little silly that Spidey might have put that webbing between the towers just in case he needed to catch a 'copter in it, but I think you've got to admit, as it zoomed out it looked exactly like a big ol' fly caught in a spider's web. Or like a dragonfly caught in a web between two branches.

My biggest worry about this movie is that they will make Spidey a big wuss like in the Fox cartoon. He never hits anyone, just runs away until he can figure out a non-violent way to subdue them, usually with his webbing. He should be kickin' ***, like in the comics. Pulling his punches, of course. :)

'nuff said!

[This message was edited by Prod on 07.14.01 at 23:00.]

greywulf73
07-15-2001, 11:06 AM
what!!!!?!!!!???
darth brian.................
the spiderman cg shots kick the hell out of the cg for the humans in Final Fantasy! Period.
you must be one the people that that thought tomb raider was oscar material. that trailer was as faithful to the imagery thats portrayed in the comics as seen in any comic adaptation.
wow .
at least have something insightful to say regarding your opnions. and guess what,... there are shots of him swinging through the city!!!!!

[This message was edited by greywulf73 on 07.15.01 at 11:12.]

[This message was edited by greywulf73 on 07.15.01 at 11:14.]

raulito0
07-16-2001, 01:58 PM
The fact that Spiderman was pulling a helicopter seems kindof oldschool to me,and I think there will be alot more of oldschool scenes in the movie.Like we all know spiderman is pretty old and I think they are trying to capture a bit of that essence.If we all look at Spidermans fist releases and lots of other heroes, the way things are done have changed alot.So the fact of Spiderman pulling a helicopter and making a giant web reflects some of that oldschool thinking.And isn't meant to be compared with todays standards

Webman34
07-21-2001, 06:55 PM
The trailer did look good, and I think the movie will do ok. I just think all the spiderman action, or shall I say his webslinging will look way too computer generated. I think that is the only bad thing about the movie so far.

Spidon
07-21-2001, 07:46 PM
What would you perfer, cgi Spidey swinging through NYC or Spidey swinging from a rope on a green screen put into camera angles of New York streets?

Spidon

spiderman1999
07-22-2001, 03:16 AM
amazing!!!

KaineDamo
07-22-2001, 11:07 AM
Excellent point spidon. If they did that the movie would look no more realistic than superman flying the the **** 'New Adventures of Superman' programme. I think its about time DC killed off Superman anyway, i imagine only a small handfull of people even care about the comics anymore. Who wants to read about a Superhero whos totally invincible, has every power under the sun, has perfect morals, and a perfect life?

alex_so13
07-23-2001, 03:25 PM
what was that song that was playing during the teaser trailer just want to know. it sounded like econoline crush.

Spiderweb001
07-24-2001, 08:43 PM
You guys, its a spider man teaser trailer. It might have sucked in some peoples views but in others it might have been totally awsome. Its a movie trailer for petes sake. You all dont have to fight about it. I think the movie is going to be cool, I dont have to base it on its tralier. Thats how I think.

Spiderweb001
07-24-2001, 08:47 PM
o ya Spider-Man kicks ***
reply if you agree
See ya guys later

rjankie
07-25-2001, 01:24 AM
Hello Spidey-Fans,

The first time I saw spiderman in that teaser it
was like "Wow, this is it". The sound that comes with
the trailer was the best choice. This movie will be
a blockbuster.

C U L8r,
R.

kawika5150
07-25-2001, 03:13 AM
Just saw the trailer when I went to see JPIII, and I must say it did it's job (realistically or not) for me to want to go check it out next year.

I'm not a Spiderman expert by any stretch of the imagination, but that doesn't mean I'm totally green about some of the characters being portrayed. Was the web between the towers a result of Spidey being clairvoyant? Who knows, but that's beside the point. It was something new, (albeit unrealistical) and keeps you on your toes.

Now, does this necessarily mean the movie will be a hit? Have we already seen a "peak moment" of the movie? Maybe...maybe not. We'll all find out once we've seen it, and only then will all our questions be answered. I, for one, am willing to cast aside any negative thoughts about the "what ifs" until then. In other words, I'm keeping an open mind. I have no problem with those who didn't care for the trailer; you can't please everyone. But if you're still willing to shell out your hard earned money to see the movie in light of all this, it tells me that you're also keeping an open mind (which to me, IMO is a very noble trait).

The best of luck to all those involved with this project.

Peace!

Dave

viciousvenom
07-18-2003, 10:23 AM
Well what did you all expect? Its spider-man for crying out loud!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!