for the love of god! only one villian in SM4

[spider-$ean]

guys this is ridiculous, the spider-man movies or going to go into overkill if there is 2 villians in the next film. i think it crams too much into the film and doesnt give focus to the characters at hand. if the next film has 2 villians again then the same thing is going to happen like what happened to bat man it just becomes to surreal to even believe. for christ sakes i hope they only use the lizard for the 4th film cuz they could make that awesome and have a strong story develop around it with out shocker and carnage and kraven all running around in cahotes too!

[-mada-]

guys this is ridiculous, the spider-man movies or going to go into overkill if there is 2 villians in the next film. i think it crams too much into the film and doesnt give focus to the characters at hand. if the next film has 2 villians again then the same thing is going to happen like what happened to bat man it just becomes to surreal to even believe. for christ sakes i hope they only use the lizard for the 4th film cuz they could make that awesome and have a strong story develop around it with out shocker and carnage and kraven all running around in cahotes too!

You make a good point there, but then once again... Lack of action.
Sure, I'm all in for a good story (even if it only contains one villain) but I'm also after good action.
If they choose to include another villain next to Lizard and they manage to find him/her a spot in Peter's personal life which'll stand in his way, then I'm all in for it.

[bmwdriver]

Nah, 2 Villains are good! 2 or 1!!! Even 3! If this is gonna happen then OMFG OMFG : Spidey & Venom & Black Cat VS. Lizard & Carnage!!!:spidey_clap2:
As long as we have a good movie, idc how many villains are! (Well, not 10 of course!!!)
And U didn't need to make this Thread, U could have poste your oppinion in The "WHO SHOULD BE IN SM4?!?" Thread , Spider-$ean!!!!

[Pumpkin King]

They should have two villains.

The main story should focus on redemption, and be based around Peter and the Lizard. Peter has to convince the Lizard that he's wrong and help him become human again.

The second story should have no moral, but be focussed on Carnage. When the Lizard goes crazy he smashed up the lab and lets out his sample of the symbiote. It escapes and drops into the alleyway where (coincidentally) Cletus Kasady is on the run from the law.

While the Bugle get's reports of a Lizard terrorising alley ways, they are flooded with reports of a mystery figure attacking random people.

[-mada-]

The second story should have no moral, but be focussed on Carnage.


I agree with this, kind of. No moralic lessons should be linked to him.
He needs to be someone we can all hate from the bottom of our hearts, even the most evil villains.
There's just that one problem... Sam.

[bds23420]

only one....like i said, its too much with 3 villains or even two....just give me lizard and i will be happy

[Conebone69]

You make a good point there, but then once again... Lack of action.
Sure, I'm all in for a good story (even if it only contains one villain) but I'm also after good action.
If they choose to include another villain next to Lizard and they manage to find him/her a spot in Peter's personal life which'll stand in his way, then I'm all in for it.

I agree and plus dr connors character has already been shown so they'll have that extra time from when they would introduce him, so I think one more villain would fit nicely in there

[King-Kong]

2 villains
1 isn't enough

[bds23420]

2 villains
1 isn't enough

could be though!!! if they use the Lizard he has a lot of story now....but i wouldnt mind 2 i would just like to see one

[Iron-Spidey]

1 villain: Eh, might not be exciting enough
3 villains: Whoa, too much
2 villains: Juuuuust right!

[-mada-]

I think 2 is a pretty good number, considering that we know Connors somehow, and most of the time he's CGI anyways.
And true, it could get a _bit_ boring with only one CGI monster...

[TheBlackSuit]

I want 2 villians, but I would like their stories intertwined together, like Kraven and Chameleon. Chameleon, could illusion a fact in Peter's life, and Kraven can be the one that stands in Peter's way, possibly making Peter go off the edge, and to a point where he can't trust anyone even Mary Jane or Aunt May. I would like also as a character, not a villian to be Black Cat, since he could start giving in to her trust, and at the end she betrays him in some fashion. Also I would not like any of the villians to look ridiculous like in the comics, but with a more serious black theme. And it would be cool if Peter's actions somehow would spiral in a direction that would catch the attention of the police, and Kraven buries him. `

[villains]

I think 2 is a pretty good number, considering that we know Connors somehow, and most of the time he's CGI anyways.
And true, it could get a _bit_ boring with only one CGI monster...

Please try to do it in CGI

[luke123]

guys this is ridiculous, the spider-man movies or going to go into overkill if there is 2 villians in the next film. i think it crams too much into the film and doesnt give focus to the characters at hand. if the next film has 2 villians again then the same thing is going to happen like what happened to bat man it just becomes to surreal to even believe. for christ sakes i hope they only use the lizard for the 4th film cuz they could make that awesome and have a strong story develop around it with out shocker and carnage and kraven all running around in cahotes too!

2 villians would work, see i think audiences will be bored with just 1, 2 would be perfect because each would get the right amount of screen time. The problem with sm3 was that 3 villians were just way to much for the plot to handle, I think 2 villians would be fine, especially if their stories interwined like lizard and kraven

[Araita_Man]

Two villains for Spidey 4 wouln't be too much... but 3 might.

They gotta choose villains that are related... for example Lizard and Kraven... or (if you wanna go to the crazy extreme) Venom and Carnage.

Those kind of villains might be a little easier to develop since their storylines are very well connected. They could shake it up pretty well, and give us development and good action.

:ohthedrama:

[luke123]

Two villains for Spidey 4 wouln't be too much... but 3 might.

They gotta choose villains that are related... for example Lizard and Kraven... or (if you wanna go to the crazy extreme) Venom and Carnage.

Those kind of villains might be a little easier to develop since their storylines are very well connected. They could shake it up pretty well, and give us development and good action.

:ohthedrama:

yeah they had trouble incorporating sandman and venom together

[Araita_Man]

Yeah, you're right.

2 villians would work, see i think audiences will be bored with just 1, 2 would be perfect because each would get the right amount of screen time. The problem with sm3 was that 3 villians were just way to much for the plot to handle, I think 2 villians would be fine, especially if their stories interwined like lizard and kraven

Hehe, kinda funny... what you posted and what I posted is very similar, hehehe :ohthedrama:

[Arcainite]

I want 2 villians, but I would like their stories intertwined together, like Kraven and Chameleon. Chameleon, could illusion a fact in Peter's life, and Kraven can be the one that stands in Peter's way, possibly making Peter go off the edge, and to a point where he can't trust anyone even Mary Jane or Aunt May. I would like also as a character, not a villian to be Black Cat, since he could start giving in to her trust, and at the end she betrays him in some fashion. Also I would not like any of the villians to look ridiculous like in the comics, but with a more serious black theme. And it would be cool if Peter's actions somehow would spiral in a direction that would catch the attention of the police, and Kraven buries him. `

I am against using KLH in the movies, but actually it would be quite a shocking twist wouldn't it? If Kraven buries Spider-Man at the end of 4 and if you stay past the credits, you see Spidey's hand break through the dirt but it's been two weeks!
I love it, but I suspect that all the cliffhanger haters will hate it.

[luke123]

Yeah, you're right.



Hehe, kinda funny... what you posted and what I posted is very similar, hehehe :ohthedrama:

hahah yeah

[Conebone69]

2 villians would work, see i think audiences will be bored with just 1, 2 would be perfect because each would get the right amount of screen time. The problem with sm3 was that 3 villians were just way to much for the plot to handle, I think 2 villians would be fine, especially if their stories interwined like lizard and kraven

I agree but not with kraven

[Venom man]

I think we need just one because we have learned from SM3 that a bunch of villians is not good.

[Conebone69]

I think we need just one because we have learned from SM3 that a bunch of villians is not good.

We learned that three was too much not two, two would be perfect

[Venom man]

We learned that three was too much not two, two would be perfect

yeah and they don't to have a bunch of reporters talking during a fight.

[Araita_Man]

yeah and they don't to have a bunch of reporters talking during a fight.

Yeah, they especially need not have people talking during all the action.

[I am Borat]

two villains... no more, no less. But I really think they should put a good focus on Venom and maybe a smaller villain

[sherilyn]

I want 2 villians, but I would like their stories intertwined together, like Kraven and Chameleon. Chameleon, could illusion a fact in Peter's life, and Kraven can be the one that stands in Peter's way, possibly making Peter go off the edge, and to a point where he can't trust anyone even Mary Jane or Aunt May. I would like also as a character, not a villian to be Black Cat, since he could start giving in to her trust, and at the end she betrays him in some fashion. Also I would not like any of the villians to look ridiculous like in the comics, but with a more serious black theme. And it would be cool if Peter's actions somehow would spiral in a direction that would catch the attention of the police, and Kraven buries him. `

I like your idea the best!

[Dewzy]

guys this is ridiculous, the spider-man movies or going to go into overkill if there is 2 villians in the next film. i think it crams too much into the film and doesnt give focus to the characters at hand. if the next film has 2 villians again then the same thing is going to happen like what happened to bat man it just becomes to surreal to even believe. for christ sakes i hope they only use the lizard for the 4th film cuz they could make that awesome and have a strong story develop around it with out shocker and carnage and kraven all running around in cahotes too!

nuh uh, 2 is perfect

[villains]

Two villains for Spidey 4 wouln't be too much... but 3 might.

They gotta choose villains that are related... for example Lizard and Kraven... or (if you wanna go to the crazy extreme) Venom and Carnage.

Those kind of villains might be a little easier to develop since their storylines are very well connected. They could shake it up pretty well, and give us development and good action.

:ohthedrama:

I also think three villains might be risky. If anyone can pull it off it would be Mr Thau.

[webhead988]

guys this is ridiculous, the spider-man movies or going to go into overkill if there is 2 villians in the next film. i think it crams too much into the film and doesnt give focus to the characters at hand. if the next film has 2 villians again then the same thing is going to happen like what happened to bat man it just becomes to surreal to even believe. for christ sakes i hope they only use the lizard for the 4th film cuz they could make that awesome and have a strong story develop around it with out shocker and carnage and kraven all running around in cahotes too!
Yup, same here. Just 1 villain and make it be Lizard.

[Eddie Brock Jr.]

guys this is ridiculous, the spider-man movies or going to go into overkill if there is 2 villians in the next film. i think it crams too much into the film and doesnt give focus to the characters at hand. if the next film has 2 villians again then the same thing is going to happen like what happened to bat man it just becomes to surreal to even believe. for christ sakes i hope they only use the lizard for the 4th film cuz they could make that awesome and have a strong story develop around it with out shocker and carnage and kraven all running around in cahotes too!

I don't think the plot would be thick enough to generate a widespread enthusiasm unless there were two well-written villains in it. I think they should lengthen the runtime for a next on, if there is more than two villains, so it doesn't feel like a ride at Disneyland. For me and osme others, the only really solid plan is to have Spider-Man fight to save his friend Curt Conners from being hunted down and killed as the Lizard. Hmm... hunted down. I'm seeing lion-head vests here. They could have as much as four villains, if they play it right. Look at the Pirates movies.

[webhead988]

All in all, I think 1 villain in a movie gives the villain all the space he needs to develop his character and story. Look at Spider-Man 1 and 2. Goblin and Ock had a lot of space. I thought the 3 villains in 3 were cramped.

[villains]

Mr Thau could help create the villains

[kawkaw]

3 villains may be a bit much, but two villains isn't. The key is, to use two villains that compliment and strengthen the story. That's why most smart people mention THE LIZARD and KRAVEN The Hunter. Why all the dumb people mention The Lizard and Carnage, and begged for Venom to be in SM3--and now they regret it. Idiots!

[LAspiderman75]

Nah, 2 Villains are good! 2 or 1!!! Even 3! If this is gonna happen then OMFG OMFG : Spidey & Venom & Black Cat VS. Lizard & Carnage!!!:spidey_clap2:
As long as we have a good movie, idc how many villains are! (Well, not 10 of course!!!)
And U didn't need to make this Thread, U could have poste your oppinion in The "WHO SHOULD BE IN SM4?!?" Thread , Spider-$ean!!!!

i agree wit you two villians is good.

[bmwdriver]

I don't think the plot would be thick enough to generate a widespread enthusiasm unless there were two well-written villains in it. I think they should lengthen the runtime for a next on, if there is more than two villains, so it doesn't feel like a ride at Disneyland. For me and osme others, the only really solid plan is to have Spider-Man fight to save his friend Curt Conners from being hunted down and killed as the Lizard. Hmm... hunted down. I'm seeing lion-head vests here. They could have as much as four villains, if they play it right. Look at the Pirates movies.

Of course, I agree dude!:thanks: But 2 would be prefferable!

[web shooters]

I also think three villains might be risky. If anyone can pull it off it would be Mr Thau.

jea afcors thau..

[bmwdriver]

jea afcors thau..

Poor guy:shake: ...isn't that right Webs?:LOL:

[bmwdriver]

I think Mr. thau should BE the villain in SM4!!!:ohthedrama:

[Reno-Man]

the 4 Popular villain choice for SM4 to go with the obvious Lizard right now Are Carnage Scorpion Kraven and the Return of Venom...

The Question right now is which one of these villain is going to get it...