The Spectacular Spider-Man" Episode 9 "The Uncertainty Principle" Discussion Thread

[joshthesmart]

The Green Goblin returns along with John Jameson. The Chameleon is rumoured to appear

[Jick08]

no preview?

[Jick08]

ah here it is:
http://cw4kids.com/home

It's hard to find clarity amid the masks, mysteries and menace of Halloween. Colonel John Jameson struggles to land his damaged space shuttle, while Spider-Man struggles to defeat Green Goblin, who also threatens Hammerhead and Tombstone. But Peter Parker's biggest challenge will be facing the awful truth when he finally learns the Goblin's "true" identity.

[eelyajekim]

the way it ended seemed though as if it was going to be a green goblin vs green goblin.

the goblin battle should be reserved for hobby and greeny only

[joshthesmart]

who is green vs gobby

[MaxGSpideyFan]

ah here it is:
http://cw4kids.com/homeIt's hard to find clarity amid the masks, mysteries and menace of Halloween. Colonel John Jameson struggles to land his damaged space shuttle, while Spider-Man struggles to defeat Green Goblin, who also threatens Hammerhead and Tombstone. But Peter Parker's biggest challenge will be facing the awful truth when he finally learns the Goblin's "true" identity.

There gonna reveal GGs identity already they should have at least waited another season, oh well it will be interesting to see who it is.

[Jick08]

I'm sure it's Norman

[MaydayParker143]

Well, lets look at the facts.

1. Green Goblin wants to dethrone the "Big Man."
2. Harry is taking the Green Goblin juice (possibly to up his game).
3. Harry Blacks out after taking it.
4. Norman tells hammerhead that his tech has been stolen.
5. Norman knows who the "Big Man" is.
6. After Norman is told the Otto is a loose end, Otto is almost killed by the Goblin.
7. The makers of SSM have said that they're being as true to the original comic as they can be.

The clues point to the both of them, but IMHO I think its Norman. :greengoblin:

[joshthesmart]

i thinks its harry

[MaydayParker143]

Here's another clue as to who Goblin really is.
I just thought of it as I was watching this YouTube video.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=c7FrgUOf4s0

Was Goblin as tall as Spider-Man or taller? :spidey_shrug: :greengoblin:
I think they look about the same hight. Don't you?

[ss3kid]

My friend thinks its Ned Leeds.

Help me correct him, and guide him down the path of righteousness. (I had 3 cups of coffee, a hershy bar, and a muffin. I'm wired)

[Spider-Tim 075]

Looks like the Greeny is gonna remain a main villian

[Spider Rider]

Looks like the Greeny is gonna remain a main villian

thats fine by me, i really enjoyed him in catalysts. as for his identity, it looks like it could go both ways, though i think its going to be norman. harry is just taking the formula to escape his problems i think

[webhead988]

I'm pretty sure it's Norman.

[socool83]

hmmm
i say Harry to be perfectly honest! :o

[webhead988]

well itd be very peculiar not to be norman. everyhing points towards him. the preview looks great.

[BackinBlack07]

I hope Norman finds out Spidey's identity too, just like in ASM 39-40.

[MaydayParker143]

I think that its Harry. Final answer.
I guess I'll find out when I watch it Saturday...:)

[blackspider_00]

I think Norman will wear the mask we saw at the end of ep8 anf become the Hogoblin and the Green Goblin is Harry

[Spider-Tim 075]

Harry is taking performence inhansers to do football and Norman's the goblin (my brothers theorie, could be right and would be cool)

[socool83]

my brothers theory:"I HATE SPIDER-MAN! NOW GO TO SLEEP!"
(i asked him at 1:00 in the morning :p)

[MaxGSpideyFan]

my brothers theory:"I HATE SPIDER-MAN! NOW GO TO SLEEP!"
(i asked him at 1:00 in the morning :p)

LOL :D

[MaydayParker143]

That is a good theory. If it is Norman, I think your brother is right.
Still think its Harry though.

[Spider-Tim 075]

my brothers theory:"I HATE SPIDER-MAN! NOW GO TO SLEEP!"
(i asked him at 1:00 in the morning :p)

lol fantastic socool haha :D

[ss3kid]

my brothers theory:"I HATE SPIDER-MAN! NOW GO TO SLEEP!"
(i asked him at 1:00 in the morning :p)

Sounds like my sister. But I ask her in the middle of the day. Then when I get annoying by asking her, she beats me.

[Caveboy0]

well itd be very peculiar not to be norman. everyhing points towards him. the preview looks great.

well you must have had a brain lapse every time harry drank that formula or something because its all pointing towards harry. i hope its norman, but it looks like its going to be harry. may i remind you that this is a kids show so whats obvious to us may be subtle to little kids. i really don't expect a big twist like that.

[Caveboy0]

Well, lets look at the facts.

1. Green Goblin wants to dethrone the "Big Man."
2. Harry is taking the Green Goblin juice (possibly to up his game).
3. Harry Blacks out after taking it.
4. Norman tells hammerhead that his tech has been stolen.
5. Norman knows who the "Big Man" is.
6. After Norman is told the Otto is a loose end, Otto is almost killed by the Goblin.
7. The makers of SSM have said that they're being as true to the original comic as they can be.

The clues point to the both of them, but IMHO I think its Norman. :greengoblin:

the sixth one reminds me of something hammerhead mentioned dr. octavious after norman said nothing can be traced back to him so there is a motive for him to go after otto.

[MaydayParker143]

the sixth one reminds me of something hammerhead mentioned dr. octavious after norman said nothing can be traced back to him so there is a motive for him to go after otto.

That's exactly what I was talking about. :)

Originally Posted by Caveboy0
i hope its norman, but it looks like its going to be harry. may i remind you that this is a kids show so whats obvious to us may be subtle to little kids. i really don't expect a big twist like that.

Another thing to consider is that the writers know that most of their viewers have watched the movies. Little kids are all thinking, "It has to be Norman because he was Norman in the movie. They just show Harry drinking that stuff because he's going to become the New Goblin after Green Goblin."

[xFredSlacks77x]

Harry is taking performence inhansers to do football and Norman's the goblin (my brothers theorie, could be right and would be cool)

i agree with this, as they are trying to stay true to the comics. i think that harry will become a goblin down the road, but not yet. also, hobgoblin will be saved for ned lee. why would they bring him into the show and give him development if they weren't going to use him? i am more interested in if the goblin storyline will be finished for this season, if tombstone will want the symbiote rock (maybe send chamelion like kingpin does in TAS), and if green goblin will find out peter's identity like has happened so many times before. i am hoping for good closure to the goblin for now, and a cool introduction to the symbiote, so i hope they aren't packing this episode too much.

[spider-man guy]

Anyone else think it's possible Spidey gets the black suit at the end of this episode? They don't mention anything about him GETTING it in the synopsis for Persona.

[Venomaster]

Anyone else think it's possible Spidey gets the black suit at the end of this episode? They don't mention anything about him GETTING it in the synopsis for Persona.

Doubt it. The DVDs are in eps of 3, and ep.9 completes one disc

[xFredSlacks77x]

i am sure we will see spidey recieve the symbiote at the end of this episode. john jameson coming home from the moon right before the symbiote storyline is introduced? a little too coincidental for me. spidey might save the shuttle, get the symbiote on him, and not notice until the very final scene of the episode.

[MaydayParker143]

"Ah, Hudson water pollution. Rich, thick, and creamy." Spider-Man in the ASM.

[xFredSlacks77x]

"Ah, Hudson water pollution. Rich, thick, and creamy." Spider-Man in the ASM.

exactly. that was one of the things TAS did right. the way spidey recieved the symbiote was genious, and i do hope they copy it was closly as possible in episode 9.

[MaydayParker143]

I know! They did that so well in ASM, but---as much as I loved it---it seems kinda cheatish to do the same thing again.

[xFredSlacks77x]

I know! They did that so well in ASM, but---as much as I loved it---it seems kinda cheatish to do the same thing again.

i guess. well i am positive they will do the shuttle crash. and i am sure that spidey won't actually discover the symbiote until far after the crash takes place... probebly in his house. as long as they get tombstone or gobbie involved in trying to get their hands on the symbiote, it would be eerily similar to TAS.

[webhead988]

well you must have had a brain lapse every time harry drank that formula or something because its all pointing towards harry.
Well look at it this way. I don't see any reason for Harry to want to take over the underground even if he was in a lapse himself. Plus he seems to know everything Norman should. Yes he listens to Norman's convos, but not enough maybe to know everything. Also I think Goblin is too comfortable with his equipement and how it works for him to be Harry. But all in all I think we're meant to assume it's Harry. And no just cause I don't agree on something doesn't mean I have a brain lapse every time he drinks the formula.:shake: :rolleyes:
i hope its norman, but it looks like its going to be harry. may i remind you that this is a kids show so whats obvious to us may be subtle to little kids. i really don't expect a big twist like that.
Well it's very possible, since little kids tend to assume it's Harry. This way they're easily persuaded to believe its him and then get a big surprise. Also, may I remind you they're staying true to the comics so Norman has more chance of being the Goblin.


Anyway, the truth lies with the episode itself. It's anyone who could be right.

[xFredSlacks77x]

Well look at it this way. I don't see any reason for Harry to want to take over the underground even if he was in a lapse himself. Plus he seems to know everything Norman should. Yes he listens to Norman's convos, but not enough maybe to know everything. Also I think Goblin is too comfortable with his equipement and how it works for him to be Harry. But all in all I think we're meant to assume it's Harry. And no just cause I don't agree on something doesn't mean I have a brain lapse every time he drinks the formula,..:shake: :rolleyes:

Well it's very possible, since little kids should assume it's Harry and get a big surprise. Also, may I remind you they're staying true to the comics so Norman has more chance of being the Goblin.


Anyway, the truth lies with the episode itself. It's anyone who could be right.

i agree with you. harry would have no reason to take down the underground, and he would not know how to work the suit like norman. also he is not tall enough. i am 95% sure it will be norman because they said they are trying to be as close to the comics as possible. there is no need for plot reasons the goblin wouldn't be norman first. this way they can save the haryy goblin for later on in the series.

[MaydayParker143]

Anyway, the truth lies with the episode itself. It's anyone who could be right.
Too, true. Why can't Saturday get here already!?!:cry:

[joshthesmart]

info on ep

[MaydayParker143]

I can't believe I missed it!!!
The original cast members list says, "Norman Osborn/Green Goblin!"

Okay, there are, too many clues stacked againest me. I say it's Norman.

[joshthesmart]

It's hard to find clarity amid the masks, mysteries and menace of Halloween. Colonel John Jameson struggles to land his damaged space shuttle, while Spider-Man struggles to defeat Green Goblin, who also threatens Hammerhead and Tombstone. But Peter Parker's biggest challenge will be facing the awful truth when he finally learns the Goblin's 'true' identity

[MaydayParker143]

It's hard to find clarity amid the masks, mysteries and menace of Halloween. Colonel John Jameson struggles to land his damaged space shuttle, while Spider-Man struggles to defeat Green Goblin, who also threatens Hammerhead and Tombstone. But Peter Parker's biggest challenge will be facing the awful truth when he finally learns the Goblin's 'true' identity

Hmm...What's with the quote marks around "true" in true identity?:confused:

[joshthesmart]

lmao i dont rlly know i ogt it off of wiki so dont ask me ask them LOL

[MaydayParker143]

I have that on my SSM site, too. http://www.freewebs.com/thespectacularspider-man/seasonone.htm Got it from the Comic Continuum.
Anyone have any idea what it means?

[Venomaster]

http://www.comics2film.com/g/displayimage.php?album=34&pos=1

New pics!

[MaydayParker143]

Hey, we both got the pictures at the same time. I just posted them on the Screen Caps thread. Hee-hee:innocent:

[ss3kid]

Hey, we both got the pictures at the same time. I just posted them on the Screen Caps thread. Hee-hee:innocent:

Dude, Gobby looks pure evil in that pic. I love it.

WHY CAN'T IT BE SATURDAY!
Oh, how they torture me so.

[GreenGoblin075]

Harry is taking performence inhansers to do football and Norman's the goblin (my brothers theorie, could be right and would be cool)


thanks for daying i thought of it:thanks:

[GreenGoblin075]

it can't be harry...it would completely suck...i mean come on...why would harry attack the big man???he doesn't know who the big man is

[MaxGSpideyFan]

it can't be harry...it would completely suck...i mean come on...why would harry attack the big man???he doesn't know who the big man is

Or does he?

[Spider-Tim 075]

thanks for daying i thought of it:thanks:

No Problem

it can't be harry...it would completely suck...i mean come on...why would harry attack the big man???he doesn't know who the big man is

Agreed, I think

Or does he?

Lol, I think I'm sticking with the theorie that my bro gave me

[bmwdriver]

it can't be harry...it would completely suck...i mean come on...why would harry attack the big man???he doesn't know who the big man is

Good point! ;)

[GreenGoblin075]

I have that on my SSM site, too. http://www.freewebs.com/thespectacularspider-man/seasonone.htm Got it from the Comic Continuum.
Anyone have any idea what it means?

it probably means he will discover the wrong idendity first...aka harry

[MaydayParker143]

it probably means he will discover the wrong idendity first...aka harry

Ah, that's gotta be what it means!

Originally Posted by GreenGoblin075
it can't be harry...it would completely suck...i mean come on...why would harry attack the big man???he doesn't know who the big man is

Okay, it took me forever to gather up my notes, but here they are.

Stuff that Harry could have over heard:
__________________________________________________ _______
“Market Forces”

Norman: (to Harry) Take control of your destiny, boy. Harry, life’s pretty simple, you cowboy up and do what you have to do.

[Norman goes into his office leaving Harry in the hall.]

Harry: Thanks…I will.

[Inside Norman’s office with Hammerhead.]

Norman: My apologies for the interruption.
Hammerhead: Ah, kids today. What ya gonna do? New topic: Spider-man. We want him gone. You care?
Norman: None of my business.
Hammerhead: Really? Hero saved your hide---
Norman: I have nothing to do with Spider-man. I wouldn’t have risked tipping you off to that Tricorp shipment if I had.
Hammerhead: Why did you tip us off?
Norman: Tricorp’s my competitor in the super mercenary field. If their prototypes go missing, everyone wins.
Hammerhead: Which brings up an issue my boss would like to discuss.

[Hammerhead pulls out his phone.]

Hammerhead: Go ahead, Big Man.
Big Man: Mr. Osborn, we have a proposition. When Spider-man battles the likes of the Vulture, the Lizard, or even our Shocker he’s, too busy to interfere with my empire. We would like to hire you to create more…well, let’s call them, Super Villains.
Norman: What’s in it for me?
Big Man: Ample funding and more than enough guinea pigs for your more questionable experiments.
__________________________________________________ _______
“The Invisible Hand”

Hammerhead: I’m impressed. Rhino’s still on the ground and Oscorp’s already got the contract to build his prison cell.
Norman: After our success containing Sandman, whom else would the city call?
Hammerhead: Meaning you get paid coming and going. Sweet.
Norman: Very, but these mid-town brawls. People are beginning to ask questions. Best to let things cool off for a bit.
Hammerhead: We cool off when the Big Man says so, see? Or do you want people to know who created freak one and freak two?
Norman: Please. There’s nothing to trace them back to Oscorp or myself.
Hammerhead: Really? Tell that to Dr. Octavious.

[Harry bursts into the room.]

Harry: Hey Dad, great news! I got strait As on my midterms, I made the varsity football team first string, and I have a date to tonight’s Fall Formal with one of the hottest---
Norman: Harry, can’t you see I’m in a meeting? Get out.
Harry: Yes, sir. Sorry. Didn’t mean to interrupt.

[Harry walks away with an evil smile.]
__________________________________________________ _______
A few more notes:

1. In Catalysts the vial that Harry drinks from is labeled “Oscorp Globulin Green #994”
2. Globulin is a simple protein found in blood serum.
3. Catalysts means, “a substance that increases the rate of a chemical reaction without itself undergoing any change” or “somebody or something that makes a change happen or brings about an event”

[MaxGSpideyFan]

Lol, I think I'm sticking with the theorie that my bro gave me

I know i was just being funny :D

[robase2003]

I really can't wait to see this episode. It looks like i'll be tapin it since i'll be sleeping. Overnight jobs suck when you wanna watch saturday morning cartoons

[ss3kid]

It comes one in 3 hours. Yes! I can't wait.

[Spider-Tim 075]

I really can't wait to see this episode. It looks like i'll be tapin it since i'll be sleeping. Overnight jobs suck when you wanna watch saturday morning cartoons

It comes one in 3 hours. Yes! I can't wait.

I'm excited here 2 guys!!

[socool83]

only an hour and a half left (90 minutes) :yay:

[Spider-Tim 075]

only an hour and a half left (90 minutes) :yay:

OMG OMG OMG OMG

The rumours have been so interresting lol :D

[joshthesmart]

omg its on :D

[shadow_spidey]

Well I watch the episode a few hours ago. I thought it was one of the pest episodes yet. :D

The Green Goblin is: Harry Osborn It seems they're sort of doing the same thing as the 90's series only no Hobgoblin yet. Hopefully they'll save him!

There was an extremelu small cameo for a villain maybe. Who you ask? Look for you self here: Black Cat I believe it was here. I mean stealing money during a Halloween party thing with a bunch of poeple wearing costumes, yeah.

Next week is The Spectacular Black-Suited Spider-Man!!!! :yay:

[joshthesmart]

i knew it was .......

[shadow_spidey]

It was an interesting twist.

[joshthesmart]

right now the goblin fireworks happend

[socool83]

promo for next week!http://kidswb.warnerbros.com/home
the episode was GREAT!!!!
and Black Spidey looks awesome!

[shadow_spidey]

Black Spidey has webbing! :cool:

[shadow_spidey]

Norman will most likely take over now since Harry is out. :greengoblin:

[socool83]

Black Spidey has webbing! :cool:

yeah!
i noticed that too!

[ss3kid]

I knew. I knew Harry was the Goblin. They may be going out of order, but this was by far the best episode yet. Can't wait for next weeks episode.

[socool83]

see, i told all of u Harry was the Goblin and i was right!
HA! :cool:

[joshthesmart]

ik it allrdy

[Spider-Tim 075]

Black Spidey has webbing!
Yeah thats one of the original "good things" about the black suit. In the movies the "organic webbing" wasn't much of a plus lol


yeah!
i noticed that too!

Is Harry dead then lol?

I knew. I knew Harry was the Goblin. They may be going out of order, but this was by far the best episode yet. Can't wait for next weeks episode.
Sound good I have to wait until the downloads are avaideble

see, i told all of u Harry was the Goblin and i was right!
HA!

And why did Harry then attack the Big Man? lol

[spider-man guy]

Any of you hear of a really good red herring? They are doing what SM TAS was doing, but an immensley better job at it. Making us think Harry is the Goblin. If anything, the mystery has just gotten a lot more interesting.

[GoblinFan07]

Yeah, I think there's a catch to it and the Green Goblin still is Norman Osborn, but for now they're making it look like it's Harry. I think that it was Norman in the suit each time up until this last time we saw with Goblin at the factory because Harry only knew about Hammerhead interfering with Norman's plans, so he was after Hammerhead only. That makes the most sense to me.
Either that or there was some kind of trick or switch going on.

[spider-man guy]

My favorite episode since The Invisible Hand.

The whole fight sequence at the end was something to marvel at. I liked what they did with the introduction to the symbiote. That sense of hoplessness at the Bugle when they all thought John was gonna crash was nice too. Scenes like the one at the end with Spidey, Norman, and Harry don't happen too often on children's shows anymore, thought it was nice Norman was ready to take the blame. Alan Rachin's delivery of the lines during that scene was really believible, making it all the more dramatic. Still think Norman's the Green Goblin. He's that manipulitive mastermind we all know and love, that's what I'm betting. I clapped on instinct when the symbiote covered the screen. Bring it on!

Oh, and Black Cat walking away with the cash casually was gold.

[Spider-Tim 075]

My favorite episode since The Invisible Hand.

The whole fight sequence at the end was something to marvel at. I liked what they did with the introduction to the symbiote. That sense of hoplessness at the Bugle when they all thought John was gonna crash was nice too. Scenes like the one at the end with Spidey, Norman, and Harry don't happen too often on children's shows anymore, thought it was nice Norman was ready to take the blame. Alan Rachin's delivery of the lines during that scene was really believible, making it all the more dramatic. Still think Norman's the Green Goblin. He's that manipulitive mastermind we all know and love, that's what I'm betting. I clapped on instinct when the symbiote covered the screen. Bring it on!

Oh, and Black Cat walking away with the cash casually was gold.

nice review, can't wait to see it myself

[Ock/Joker fan]

I hated the fact that Harry was the Goblin!

[Spider-Tim 075]

I hated the fact that Harry was the Goblin!

Now yout worrying me! :D I still can't see it, no torrents

[robase2003]

good thing i taped it, so far i found no torrents i think it'll pop up later tonight or tomorrow so whenever i find it i'll link it

[Chipper9620]

I wish they would have waited for the symbiote to pop up... I mean, its real cool and everything, but we just had the symbiote in 3! I wish they would have waited a while before putting it in the series, or at least for it to catch onto Peter.

Hey, I just noticed that when that huge meteor hit the space shuttle (which obviously wouldnt have cracked open, but instead severely damaged the ship and kill anyone that was right in front of it.... yea) Must have been where the symbiote came from!

Man, I can be so smart sometimes... lol jk.

The Black Cat cameo was strange, it was like, "OOOHHH!!! BLACK CAT!!!" and it was just some random person in a costume who walked away, and I was like, "WtF jUsT hApPeNeD?!"

I like how it ended. If only this wasn't a cartoon, it would be a cool short movie storyline kinda...

[spider-man guy]

^ Well, she was walking away with a bag of cash. Presumably stolen and blending in with the costumed crowd. So I wouldn't be so sure. ;)

[Chipper9620]

^ Well, she was walking away with a bag of cash. Presumably stolen and blending in with the costumed crowd. So I wouldn't be so sure. ;)

I didn't really mean it was a Halloween costume, it was just something random that blended in. It was just disappointing to see her walking around for like 3 seconds, not prancing off rooftops, and jumping around.

[spider-man guy]

I didn't really mean it was a Halloween costume, it was just something random that blended in. It was just disappointing to see her walking around for like 3 seconds, not prancing off rooftops, and jumping around.

Still. If you robbed a place on Halloween and are wearing a costume, you'd take the easy getaway by blending in with a crowd than jumping around for everyone to see. Get what I'm saying?:)

[ss3kid]

Still. If you robbed a place on Halloween and are wearing a costume, you'd take the easy getaway by blending in with a crowd than jumping around for everyone to see. Get what I'm saying?:)

Good point.

The minute I saw Black Cat, I'm staring at the TV., pointing and saying "Hey, she doesn't appear till next week!" But still, if thats how she's gonna look, I'm happy.

[Chipper9620]

Still. If you robbed a place on Halloween and are wearing a costume, you'd take the easy getaway by blending in with a crowd than jumping around for everyone to see. Get what I'm saying?:)

I understand, but somehow I am not getting my point across. Somehow I think they wasted the first showing of the Black Cat.

Whatever... I didnt want to like go explain myself like 6 times but I understand what your saying...

[webhead988]

Anyone who has a link to the episode please do PM it to me thanks.:)

[eelyajekim]

wait a minute isn't the symboite weak against anything the produces high intensity sound or extreme heat??
Wouldn't the roar of the engines, screeching tires, and the heat of the atmosphere literally kill the suit?
if it came from space and attached itself to the ship that is, if it didn't, well i hope they explain it next week.

[BackinBlack07]

This show just keeps getting better and better and better, etc.
-Harry being the Goblin was a good twist and just awesome. I loved how he just attacked Norman and telling him off. It was also nice to see Norman showing some compassion for Harry again. Haven't seen that since Market Forces.
-The shuttle story was good as well, especially JJ. One second he's just glad his son made it, the next he's pushing his employees again. Plus, symbiote time!
-Black Cat cameo. 'Nuff said.

And just wait, the black costume next week!

[blackspider_00]

here the download http://isohunt.com/torrent_details/42665765/The+spectacular+spider-man?tab=summary

[bmwdriver]

Hah, out already on IsoHunt? Thx, I was just about to search!

[Spider-Tim 075]

Excellent Episode, for me Harry being the Goblin wasn't a disaster cause it was all pretty well explained and fitted in nicely, I might have prefered if it was Norman but it doesn't take away any credit on my part.

I loved the idea of J.J. and the Bugle being scared for John, I'd expected him to play a part in Spider-Man 3 as a space shuttle pilot, cause he'd been a character in Spidey 2.. I would have been good actually.

The Black Cat cameo was priceless btw

All in all a 8/10 for me, not the best episode but another top notch episode keeping the series at a high level that I hope it keeps.

Not to mention : Next Week = BLACK SUIT

[GreenGoblin075]

pff, i liked the episode but it really should have been norman. it's just too bad...but i'm really looking forward to black cat and perhaps most of all the sinister six.

[Paulbro]

http://www.veoh.com/videos/v9792913cJ8sJHWC?searchId=762188515216898597&rank=1

[Spider Rider]

http://www.veoh.com/videos/v9792913cJ8sJHWC?searchId=762188515216898597&rank=1

awesome episode, i loved it.

[xFredSlacks77x]

this is not the end of the goblin storyline. harry was caught as the goblin, but that is just what the show wants us to think. either norman was the goblin until that final battle, or norman was training harry, telling him what to do, and giving him the necessary supplies. i believe its the latter. i think osborn wanted someone else to do his dirty work, and now that harry's out of the picture he may have to do it himself.

i wouldn't be surprised to see another goblin episode at the end of this season, or atleast a little teaser to the storyline at the end of a future episode.

by the way, this week we saw jjj turn against spider-man for the first time. now we are going to see the jj who hates spider-man, and attacks him in the paper.

[jacobs101]

I've enjoyed both episodes the most that have involved the goblin. The goblin is so sinister, so malevolent that I truly get a sense of his insanity. I feel this is a true villain (with a great arsenal) that really wants to KILL spiderman; this is something i haven't really felt with the other villians of the show (because we know that spiderman will outsmart them). This episode not only had great storytelling, but i really felt the show as a series, progressed. I instantly fall in love with any show that's nicely animated, so i'm kinda biased. But i loved the animation in this one and the storyboarding too. We got some interesting 'camera' angles. And the green goblin had some more screen time and was better animated this time (although i liked the job they did on catalyst too). We also got some more emotional depth from this one: Gwen cares for harry's safety (but it was kinda getting anoying, so i'm glad harry's rehabilitating now), and also JJ caring for the safety for his son. Just the fact that we get to see jj holding a picture of his son and himself is very emotional; plus the music worked nicely with the scenes too. I was quite surprised a show that is kinda targeted towards kids, would have this emotional depth. Then when we see JJ (relieved after the safe return of his son) going back to his usual self; this is great character development and we see that he isn't as 2 dimensional as he is portrayed to be.
Overall, this felt like a more movie-esque feel. It had excellent story telling, emotional depth and an epic battle at the end. The only problem is that TSS should get a whole hour as one show because you can tell they have so much to tell in so little time. And they still do great job at it (it just feels a little fast).

[MaxGSpideyFan]

Good Episode, this week surprised Harry was the Goblin but i have a feeling we will see Norman as the goblin soon and nice Cameo by Black Cat looking forward to next weeks episode with the Black Suit :yay:

[webhead988]

Spectacular episode. Was surprised too, to see Harry as the Goblin.

[socool83]

Spectacular episode. Was surprised too, to see Harry as the Goblin.

like jacob said in another thread.
i bet Chameleon was Norman at the Oscorp part and Norman was the Goblin but framed Harry

[webhead988]

like jacob said in another thread.
i bet Chameleon was Norman at the Oscorp part and Norman was the Goblin but framed Harry

now that my friend, would be completely messed up.

[hobo123]

http://www.veoh.com/videos/v9792913cJ8sJHWC?searchId=762188515216898597&rank=1

thanx alot, spectacular episode as always

[socool83]

now that my friend, would be completely messed up.

why?
that would explain why Norman came in through the front door, why he was downloading info and some forseshadowing since Chameleon appears in next weeks epsiode! :innocent:

[webhead988]

why?
that would explain why Norman came in through the front door, why he was downloading info and some forseshadowing since Chameleon appears in next weeks epsiode! :innocent:

Chameleon's in next week's episode? Ok, now things can get even more interesting.

[socool83]

Chameleon's in next week's episode? Ok, now things can get even more interesting.

yes he is my friend.
Black-Spidey and Black-Cat team up to fight Chameleon who frames Spidey.

[jacobs101]

hey thankz socool83. I think that foreshadowing and having alot of the characters before they transform into hero or villain is all about keeping the cohesiveness of the show (as said by greg when he was interviewed by spiderman crawl space). that's another reason why montana was the shocker; he was already introduced into the show. I'm not a big comic book reader so it didn't bother me as it did others, but I do commend the writers for having arcs and character development throughout the series, something that isn't too big in todays kids' shows.

[socool83]

hey thankz socool83. I think that foreshadowing and having alot of the characters before they transform into hero or villain is all about keeping the cohesiveness of the show (as said by greg when he was interviewed by spiderman crawl space). that's another reason why montana was the shocker; he was already introduced into the show. I'm not a big comic book reader so it didn't bother me as it did others, but I do commend the writers for having arcs and character development throughout the series, something that isn't too big in todays kids' shows.

np pal

[Spider-Tim 075]

Good Episode, this week surprised Harry was the Goblin but i have a feeling we will see Norman as the goblin soon and nice Cameo by Black Cat looking forward to next weeks episode with the Black Suit :yay:

indeed and hell yes!

Spectacular episode. Was surprised too, to see Harry as the Goblin.

Same here

[xFredSlacks77x]

like jacob said in another thread.
i bet Chameleon was Norman at the Oscorp part and Norman was the Goblin but framed Harry

i think that norman was the goblin the whole time, but he set harry up for the final fight and gave him the serum etc. norman never needed to go through the front door because he was always the goblin, but when he set harry up, this was not necessary.

[Bluefury]

Harry being GG is something I think the writers only want us to think.
And the theory about chameleons pretending to be Harry sounds real good.

Next episode can be really good but Im afraid its gonna be a bit to hasty made, the introduction of both chameleon, black cat and the black suit may be to much to handle.

anyway, this weeks episode was really great and I loved the fight between GG and Spider-man.:spidey_dance:

[MaydayParker143]

Harry's the Goblin!
Darn! I should have stuck with my original thought.:shake:

I jumped up and screamed when the Black Cat walked by. Didn't notice the bag of cash until now. (I think I was half asleep Saturday.:sleep: )

I still have a feeling that Norman was up to something.
What did that guy mean by it was strange to see Norman coming through the front door?

[jacobs101]

Harry's the Goblin!
Darn! I should have stuck with my original thought.:shake:

I jumped up and screamed when the Black Cat walked by. Didn't notice the bag of cash until now. (I think I was half asleep Saturday.:sleep: )

I still have a feeling that Norman was up to something.
What did that guy mean by it was strange to see Norman coming through the front door?

i wrote my theory in 'and the green goblin is..' thread. but just the short answer: Norman went through the front door of his own company (and the guard said had just been there a while ago). Why do i mention this? well..the chameleon is in the next ep...so....

[MaydayParker143]

Hmm... I never thought of that.
They don't seem to have a problem with introducing characters before their official debut. ;)

[Chipper9620]

Did anyone else notice that Gwen probably isnt going to die anytime soon?

IDK, wasnt there a rumor she was going to die at the end of this season or something?

But with the Goblin storyline over and done with for at least this season or something...

I cant wait for Black Cat now...

[Caveboy0]

Harry being GG is something I think the writers only want us to think.
And the theory about chameleons pretending to be Harry sounds real good.

Next episode can be really good but Im afraid its gonna be a bit to hasty made, the introduction of both chameleon, black cat and the black suit may be to much to handle.

anyway, this weeks episode was really great and I loved the fight between GG and Spider-man.:spidey_dance:

you keep telling your self that:rolleyes:

[Caveboy0]

Spectacular episode. Was surprised too, to see Harry as the Goblin.

you guys are way over analyzing a kids show! i like this show but i do not expect some kind of stupid convoluted twist like you guys expected. they wanted it to be harry they foreshadowed that it was harry and guess what it was harry. deal with it you guys are in some kind of fantasy world now. (now commenting on some guys theory)"it was norman who is chameleon as harry to get out of going to jail." what!? that is so stupid sounding. so stop whining that it is not norman. accept reality.:rant:

[jacobs101]

Did anyone else notice that Gwen probably isnt going to die anytime soon?

IDK, wasnt there a rumor she was going to die at the end of this season or something?

But with the Goblin storyline over and done with for at least this season or something...

I cant wait for Black Cat now...

She is definitely not dying anytime soon. If you listen to the interview that greg weisman did for spiderman crawl space, he's thought about gwen's development for the overall series. Greg kinda implied that throughout the series, gwen will grow from being a nerd to quite a hot woman (as everyone thought she would be portayed to be immediately). And we have yet to see that and we may not even see it until the TSSM series starts going to direct-dvd (as greg said he hopes to do). Greg also said that he wants to do spiderman at college, which is when he hopes to do the direct-dvd and avoid the strict S&P practices this show has to go through. This way, we may even see more of a adult tone and even some deaths to the series.

[jacobs101]

you guys are way over analyzing a kids show! i like this show but i do not expect some kind of stupid convoluted twist like you guys expected. they wanted it to be harry they foreshadowed that it was harry and guess what it was harry. deal with it you guys are in some kind of fantasy world now. (now commenting on some guys theory)"it was norman who is chameleon as harry to get out of going to jail." what!? that is so stupid sounding. so stop whining that it is not norman. accept reality.:rant:

My previous post:
I also believe the green goblin arc is not over. I think the fact that some of us our believing it's harry is because of their good story telling skillz. I think that Norman has been the green goblin the entire time and that its just the way the show's edited it and told the story (i.e. showing the goblin and then right after, a scene where a harry has blacked out).
Some people have made some really good points about the chameleon's part in the latest episode (uncertainty principle). I think it was the chameleon (maybe working for himself or the bigman) who entered oscorp disguised as norman. Or else, why would the guard find it awkward for norman to be entering the FRONT door? and then not only after that, we see him downloading information. In addition, we see the goblin thief steal some oscorp tech., to which the chameleon seems surprised. No doubt the chameleon felt he infiltrated at the wrong time. and then when the goblin sees norman (chameleon): the goblin laughs. The goblin is most likely laughing at the fact that he knows that it isn't norman (because the goblin is norman) and also that there are other villains around town thieving oscorp's tech. Finally, chamleon is in spiderman's next episode. So some good foreshadowing is going on (including the appearance of black cat). The show also conveniently did not explain what was behind the secret door that NORMAN came through.
The only thing i can't explain is harry's leg being hurt. Of course, some people have assumed that norman put the suit on harry and has framed his own son (which i too believe). But if norman would hurt his own son's leg; im not sure if he could do that being his father (although he kinda did just frame his son and has helped experimentation of a healthy group of freaks, so nothing seems too immorally impossible for him).
If norman is the goblin, this show will trully be known for great story telling (not that it already isn't). This show is so great and i like the fact that there are still loose ends to be solved around the goblin.

I don't think it's as far-fetched as some people are denying. Just watch the shows again. It's clever editing, clever story telling and quite a lot of situations are based on circumstances. And i think this is more than a kid's show...

[jacobs101]

I don't think we're being convoluted. We know that the writers are trying to trick their viewers. It's what makes a good show when they finally make the twist. And also the viewers begin to speculate. And i think this show has done an excellent job of putting a 'conclusion' to the goblin story for now and yet continuing the speculation (as some people have still fallen into their trap).

Also to the people who don't believe that the chameleon was disguised as norman and the goblin is norman: why would the writers dedicate a scene just to show the goblin steal oscorp tech? The show is already so limited on time. It was good foreshadowing for the chameleon pretending to be norman. And why would norman be downloading? It also played part into the goblin's supposed identity. It's all based on circumstances. :spidey_hammer:

[spider-man guy]

Yes. Major kudos to the writers for making a show that actually makes veiwers think after they've watched it.

[spider-jide]

I think that the way the story played out, it's almost hard to tell who's who.

Harry, towards the end with spidey and Norman was zoning in and out of insanity, he applied super strength and tossed Norman across the room.

However, with talks of chameleon, this spices things up. I thought Norman wasn't all too shocked and angry to find harry had been taking the formula but at the same time, the situation analysis proved to be a pretty big deal for a father even if he does have an abnormal low opinion of his son.

Right now, I'm sticking with Harry was the goblin the whole time, it just makes more sense when you look at what has actually happened. Can't wait for the next ep.

[MaydayParker143]

I don't know why everyone's so upset that it was Harry! :mad:
So they didn't stay true to the comic! So what!?!

It was Harry! Maybe next time we see the Goblin it'll be Norman.

If you want something to be 100% true to the comic, read the comic...
Like we've heard 100 times before, what works in comic doesn't always work for the screen! :rant:

[jacobs101]

I don't know why everyone's so upset that it was Harry! :mad:
So they didn't stay true to the comic! So what!?!

It was Harry! Maybe next time we see the Goblin it'll be Norman.

If you want something to be 100% true to the comic, read the comic...
Like we've heard 100 times before, what works in comic doesn't always work for the screen! :rant:

No, it has been norman; he is the first green goblin.cmon people.

Maybe next season, or in a few seasons later, I bet there'll be a nice big explanation about the truth of norman being the goblin's true identity.
These pints still bother me:
1)Harry still had fruit punch on his hands...(so he changed and unchanged without cleaning himself first?)
2) Norman came through a secret door but we never found out what was inside

[Venomaster]

No, it has been norman; he is the first green goblin.cmon people.

Maybe next season, or in a few seasons later, I bet there'll be a nice big explanation about the truth of norman being the goblin's true identity.
These pints still bother me:
1)Harry still had fruit punch on his hands...(so he changed and unchanged without cleaning himself first?)
2) Norman came through a secret door but we never found out what was inside

True. But did Norman give Harry the serum?
That would explain why he was so strong...
Even with Harry revealed as the goblin, I believe it's norman (the offical synopsis said the goblin's "true"-in quotes-identity, remember?)

[MaydayParker143]

No, it has been norman; he is the first green goblin.cmon people.

Maybe next season, or in a few seasons later, I bet there'll be a nice big explanation about the truth of norman being the goblin's true identity.
These pints still bother me:
1)Harry still had fruit punch on his hands...(so he changed and unchanged without cleaning himself first?)
2) Norman came through a secret door but we never found out what was inside

1) Are you saying that it would be crazy not to clean himself up? Crazy is the Goblin's middle name after all.

2) Okay. I'll admit that Norman may have been involved in Harry's Goblin idea. His, "take me instead" speech to Spidey did seem a little off.

[xFredSlacks77x]

i am still saying its norman. i think that either the goblin will return early next season, or ned lee will investigate the situation and be attacked by norman who reveals the truth. either way, i think at the end of season 1 we will get a little teaser telling us that everything is not what it appears.

[jacobs101]

1) Are you saying that it would be crazy not to clean himself up? Crazy is the Goblin's middle name after all.

2) Okay. I'll admit that Norman may have been involved in Harry's Goblin idea. His, "take me instead" speech to Spidey did seem a little off.

But doesn't it also make more sense that harry had not put on the goblin costume and instead had just been moping around, unable to care about the fact that his hands were dirty because he was dumped.

I'd say he's just a big whiny child. When we saw harry display some powerful strength against his father, it was only a means of releasing his anger that had bottled up. It was just coincidental that we would see him show off his strength so boldly like that to his father. It makes sense to, when your mad: your mad. It just so happens that it all fit nicely into norman's little charade.

[jb0000612]

My previous post:
I also believe the green goblin arc is not over. I think the fact that some of us our believing it's harry is because of their good story telling skillz. I think that Norman has been the green goblin the entire time and that its just the way the show's edited it and told the story (i.e. showing the goblin and then right after, a scene where a harry has blacked out).
Some people have made some really good points about the chameleon's part in the latest episode (uncertainty principle). I think it was the chameleon (maybe working for himself or the bigman) who entered oscorp disguised as norman. Or else, why would the guard find it awkward for norman to be entering the FRONT door? and then not only after that, we see him downloading information. In addition, we see the goblin thief steal some oscorp tech., to which the chameleon seems surprised. No doubt the chameleon felt he infiltrated at the wrong time. and then when the goblin sees norman (chameleon): the goblin laughs. The goblin is most likely laughing at the fact that he knows that it isn't norman (because the goblin is norman) and also that there are other villains around town thieving oscorp's tech. Finally, chamleon is in spiderman's next episode. So some good foreshadowing is going on (including the appearance of black cat). The show also conveniently did not explain what was behind the secret door that NORMAN came through.
The only thing i can't explain is harry's leg being hurt. Of course, some people have assumed that norman put the suit on harry and has framed his own son (which i too believe). But if norman would hurt his own son's leg; im not sure if he could do that being his father (although he kinda did just frame his son and has helped experimentation of a healthy group of freaks, so nothing seems too immorally impossible for him).
If norman is the goblin, this show will trully be known for great story telling (not that it already isn't). This show is so great and i like the fact that there are still loose ends to be solved around the goblin.

I don't think it's as far-fetched as some people are denying. Just watch the shows again. It's clever editing, clever story telling and quite a lot of situations are based on circumstances. And i think this is more than a kid's show...


Norman is not the Goblin. Nuff said. I think Harry fits better as the Goblin. Besides, they already gave it away when Harry showed his reflection in the vial.

[jacobs101]

Norman is not the Goblin. Nuff said. I think Harry fits better as the Goblin. Besides, they already gave it away when Harry showed his reflection in the vial.

lol...dont be quick to judge on how the writers present it to you.
IT IS ALL ABOUT LOOKING BEHIND THE LINES AND THE SCENES. Sorry, it's norman.

[jb0000612]

Well, it's kinda too late to condradict Harry's ID as Gobby now. I mean, he showed super-strength and insanity, and Norman hasn't really shown any logical signs of being the Goblin, other than he hates Big Man.

[jacobs101]

Well, it's kinda too late to condradict Harry's ID as Gobby now. I mean, he showed super-strength and insanity, and Norman hasn't really shown any logical signs of being the Goblin, other than he hates Big Man.

You quoted the theory and yet I don't think you fully read it. The blatant facts are that it's Harry. We GET THAT! Yet there are unresolved issues (i.e. why did norman come through a secret door; where was he during the bigman's party?;why did harry still ahve stains on his hand?). I could even argue that because we don't completely see from when harry drinks the gobulin to when he puts on the costume that he is not the goblin. As said repeatedly before, it is the way the writers present it to the audience. If we CUT to a scene where harry is drinking a a formula; and then CUT to a scene where we see the goblin being mischievous and then CUT to a scene where harry is waking up from a black out...then we are obviously going to believe he is the goblin! But the fact that we never see him COMPLETELY transform from harry to the goblin is never seen. It's the SUBTLE clues you have to look for. You just can't say that based on the explanation that norman (who obviously has no moral obligations) gave that it is true. And also, the purpose of a GOOD story is to give you twists. If the clues are so obvious to point at norman, than it wont be a very good twist.

[Caveboy0]

I don't think we're being convoluted. We know that the writers are trying to trick their viewers. It's what makes a good show when they finally make the twist. And also the viewers begin to speculate. And i think this show has done an excellent job of putting a 'conclusion' to the goblin story for now and yet continuing the speculation (as some people have still fallen into their trap).

Also to the people who don't believe that the chameleon was disguised as norman and the goblin is norman: why would the writers dedicate a scene just to show the goblin steal oscorp tech? The show is already so limited on time. It was good foreshadowing for the chameleon pretending to be norman. And why would norman be downloading? It also played part into the goblin's supposed identity. It's all based on circumstances. :spidey_hammer:

im not going to fight this anymore. for all i care i think you guys are too used to the comic book loop holes that make it possible for a character to come back to life.

[jacobs101]

im not going to fight this anymore. for all i care i think you guys are too used to the comic book loop holes that make it possible for a character to come back to life.

I don't read comic books lol.

[Caveboy0]

You quoted the theory and yet I don't think you fully read it. The blatant facts are that it's Harry. We GET THAT! Yet there are unresolved issues (i.e. why did norman come through a secret door; where was he during the bigman's party?;why did harry still ahve stains on his hand?). I could even argue that because we don't completely see from when harry drinks the gobulin to when he puts on the costume that he is not the goblin. As said repeatedly before, it is the way the writers present it to the audience. If we CUT to a scene where harry is drinking a a formula; and then CUT to a scene where we see the goblin being mischievous and then CUT to a scene where harry is waking up from a black out...then we are obviously going to believe he is the goblin! But the fact that we never see him COMPLETELY transform from harry to the goblin is never seen. It's the SUBTLE clues you have to look for. You just can't say that based on the explanation that norman (who obviously has no moral obligations) gave that it is true. And also, the purpose of a GOOD story is to give you twists. If the clues are so obvious to point at norman, than it wont be a very good twist.

ok i take back what i said about no fighting this anymore. i have perfectly valid explanation for your reasons why norman was not seen previously with the goblin. it was a nod to the adults who know norman is the goblin in the comics making then raise questions while the kids are unaware. lots of kids shows try to make the parents enjoy the show.

[jacobs101]

ok i take back what i said about no fighting this anymore. i have perfectly valid explanation for your reasons why norman was not seen previously with the goblin. it was a nod to the adults who know norman is the goblin in the comics making then raise questions while the kids are unaware. lots of kids shows try to make the parents enjoy the show.

valid indeed...:congrats:

[MaydayParker143]

Ahhhhh! The madness has to stop! The Goblin's identity is a discussion for the "Goblin is..." thread! :greengoblin:

I'm going to say this and then be done with the argument until further notice.

I believe that the Goblin is (for the present) Harry Osborn. I could be wrong.
The Goblin could very well be Norman.
The Goblin could be the both of them working together.
The Goblin could even be Ned Lee!

The truth is that no matter what the show has planned or what they choose to reveal to us, everyone is going to come up with their own theory.

We can argue until we're all blue in the face, but there's no one clue that will settle the argument for good. There's no way to convince everyone that your theory is the right one. :confused:

I say we all admit to the fact that it could be Harry AND we all admit to the fact that it could be Norman.
In the end, we wont know until the Goblin returns to the story.

[jb0000612]

Exactly.

[Spiderider]

[QUOTE=MaydayParker143;526511]Ahhhhh! The madness has to stop! The Goblin's identity is a discussion for the "Goblin is..." thread! :greengoblin:

I'm going to say this and then be done with the argument until further notice.

I believe that the Goblin is (for the present) Harry Osborn. I could be wrong.
The Goblin could very well be Norman.
The Goblin could be the both of them working together.
The Goblin could even be Ned Lee!

QUOTE]

ROFL... NED LEE? That's... well, that's just adorable. Someone else thought they had cause to think that it might even be Frederick Foswell.

[MaydayParker143]

That's what I mean. Everybody has their own ideas about the Goblin.

[ss3kid]

No, it has been norman; he is the first green goblin.cmon people.

Maybe next season, or in a few seasons later, I bet there'll be a nice big explanation about the truth of norman being the goblin's true identity.
These pints still bother me:
1)Harry still had fruit punch on his hands...(so he changed and unchanged without cleaning himself first?)
2) Norman came through a secret door but we never found out what was inside

As the dude (or dude-ette) said before me, Its harry, so live with it.

NORMAN WILL BE THE NEXT GOBLIN!

You all need to stop looking at minor details. Harry might've known about the door in their house that Norman came out of, and only peter didn't.

So, basically, you all need to suck it up, live with the fact that its harry, stop finding things wrong with everyone arguing with that fact, and Watch the Mother f***'** show.

[jacobs101]

As the dude (or dude-ette) said before me, Its harry, so live with it.

NORMAN WILL BE THE NEXT GOBLIN!

You all need to stop looking at minor details. Harry might've known about the door in their house that Norman came out of, and only peter didn't.

So, basically, you all need to suck it up, live with the fact that its harry, stop finding things wrong with everyone arguing with that fact, and Watch the Mother f***'** show.

I enjoy watching the show! Your telling me to accept it and yet your the one swearing to get your point across. I'm entitled to my theories.

Also, the best stories have twists that are foreshadowed beforehand. If they didnt show what you consider, 'minor deatails', then i would completely accept harry as the goblin. The reason i speculate is because the show is just that great!

[jacobs101]

I also find it funny that people are so stubborn just to say it's harry and yet it looks like they haven't even considered the questions or odd facts that haven't been fully explained...

[xFredSlacks77x]

I also find it funny that people are so stubborn just to say it's harry and yet it looks like they haven't even considered the questions or odd facts that haven't been fully explained...

i for now am on the harry as goblin side. this is because i have looked at all the evidence given, and for now, though it looks like the goblin storyline is not over, we have to assume harry is the goblin. of course norman could have framed harry, and chamelion could have been posing as norman, but all of that is circumstancial. for now, i think everyone should stop arguing and making predictions and wait until next week, for i am sure the goblin story is not anywhere near finished.

[webhead9707]

how doi watch and download torrents?

[ss3kid]

OK, I will apologize for my comment earlier.

But I had a thought. You remember when Norman came through the front door to Oscorp and came out of the secret door? Well, maybe that WAS the Chameleon, and the dramatic moment at the end was really Norman.

[joshthesmart]

OK, I will apologize for my comment earlier.

But I had a thought. You remember when Norman came through the front door to Oscorp and came out of the secret door? Well, maybe that WAS the Chameleon, and the dramatic moment at the end was really Norman.

ya i think u are right it was Chameleon cuz in todays ep he had a norman mask

[jacobs101]

OK, I will apologize for my comment earlier.

But I had a thought. You remember when Norman came through the front door to Oscorp and came out of the secret door? Well, maybe that WAS the Chameleon, and the dramatic moment at the end was really Norman.

I don't think it was chameleon coming out of norman's secret door. but i agree with everything else.

[jacobs101]

Yeah, here was the theory:

"My previous post:
I also believe the green goblin arc is not over. I think the fact that some of us our believing it's harry is because of their good story telling skillz. I think that Norman has been the green goblin the entire time and that its just the way the show's edited it and told the story (i.e. showing the goblin and then right after, a scene where a harry has blacked out).
Some people have made some really good points about the chameleon's part in the latest episode (uncertainty principle). I think it was the chameleon (maybe working for himself or the bigman) who entered oscorp disguised as norman. Or else, why would the guard find it awkward for norman to be entering the FRONT door? and then not only after that, we see him downloading information. In addition, we see the goblin thief steal some oscorp tech., to which the chameleon seems surprised. No doubt the chameleon felt he infiltrated at the wrong time. and then when the goblin sees norman (chameleon): the goblin laughs. The goblin is most likely laughing at the fact that he knows that it isn't norman (because the goblin is norman) and also that there are other villains around town thieving oscorp's tech. Finally, chamleon is in spiderman's next episode. So some good foreshadowing is going on (including the appearance of black cat). The show also conveniently did not explain what was behind the secret door that NORMAN came through.
The only thing i can't explain is harry's leg being hurt. Of course, some people have assumed that norman put the suit on harry and has framed his own son (which i too believe). But if norman would hurt his own son's leg; im not sure if he could do that being his father (although he kinda did just frame his son and has helped experimentation of a healthy group of freaks, so nothing seems too immorally impossible for him).
If norman is the goblin, this show will trully be known for great story telling (not that it already isn't). This show is so great and i like the fact that there are still loose ends to be solved around the goblin.

I don't think it's as far-fetched as some people are denying. Just watch the shows again. It's clever editing, clever story telling and quite a lot of situations are based on circumstances. And i think this is more than a kid's show..."

[ss3kid]

I don't think it was chameleon coming out of norman's secret door. but i agree with everything else.

I suppose your right.

[Venomaster]

The problem is, there is evidence for both sides
My wo questions are:
How di Harry know the Big Man was Tombstone?
If Harry wasn't the Goblin, how did he become so strong?

[socool83]

The problem is, there is evidence for both sides
My wo questions are:
How di Harry know the Big Man was Tombstone?
"Norman" said he overheard
If Harry wasn't the Goblin, how did he become so strong?
He did take the formula, we just aren't sure if he turned into the Goblin

[Yannick123]

Harry took the performance inhansers to be good at football, but he got black outs and during the black outs he became the green goblin, and because he overheard is dad speaking to Hammerhead he went after the big man.

[jb0000612]

The problem is, there is evidence for both sides
My wo questions are:
How di Harry know the Big Man was Tombstone?
If Harry wasn't the Goblin, how did he become so strong?

From what I know, Harry's getting more brain power from the Green. So he could have done some undercover research of Hammerhead's associates, attempt to take over his forces, and run him out of town. He put together the costume himself, stole his daddy's tech, and set out on his career of crime. I cannot wait for S2.

[webhead9707]

where can i watch dis online?

[Spider Rider]

where can i watch dis online?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ut980bMzkI

[webhead9707]

thanks man don't get the channel so... i have to watch it on internet cuz i cant download it.
o is ep 10 on yet or has it even aired yet?

[webhead9707]

nevermind i found it