Chameleon in the 90s Series

[BackinBlack07]

"Day of the Chameleon" was on today, and after seeing it again, it really showed how stupid the SHIELD agents were. :rolleyes:
Would it have killed them to look down for 2 seconds to see if the person had the changing belt, rather than just tackling them?
"Get that guy! He's the Chameleon! Check if he has the belt after we tackle him!"

Am I right?

[joshthesmart]

i think he was beter now then beofr in the 1990s one cuz he talks in this one and he dont in the other

[spider-man guy]

Chameleon was perfect in TSSM today. But then again, I shouldn't be surprised since the characterization is pitch perfect for practically every character. Loved how he got away at the end, subtily as Stan Carter.

[joshthesmart]

i wounder if we will see him again

[Spider-Tim 075]

i think he was beter now then beofr in the 1990s one cuz he talks in this one and he dont in the other

Chameleon was perfect in TSSM today. But then again, I shouldn't be surprised since the characterization is pitch perfect for practically every character. Loved how he got away at the end, subtily as Stan Carter.

Yeah Spectacular Chameleon rocked! Realistic. More like in tha comics!

[Yannick123]

Chameleon looked cool in The Spectacular Spider-Man, in TAS he looked a bit weird.

[spider-man guy]

i wounder if we will see him again

Well, he got away...;)

[Venomaster]

As good as this epidoe was, it didn't get nominated for an award like the 90's one did

[ss3kid]

As good as this epidoe was, it didn't get nominated for an award like the 90's one did

So? Maybe its so good, its too cool for a nomination.

[spider-man guy]

As good as this epidoe was, it didn't get nominated for an award like the 90's one did

But it didn't win.

And this episode just aired yesterday for gods sake. Even if it does get nominated for an award it wouldn't be this soon.

[xFredSlacks77x]

i thought this chamelion was much better then the last chamelion. the magical belt was just plain silly in the 90's cartoon, and the character had no development or personality. this chamelion was given purpose, personality, interesting partners, and his old powers of plain old good disguises. and i definatly think he will have an important role in mysterio's origin, along with the origin of the tinkerer and kraven.

[GreenGoblin075]

yeah...the belt thing really sucked...in this episode it felt like mission inpossible:D i am looking forward to more of his returns...

[Spider-Tim 075]

yeah...the belt thing really sucked...in this episode it felt like mission inpossible:D i am looking forward to more of his returns...

it didn't suck

[BackinBlack07]

it didn't suck

Dude yeah it did. All anyone had to do was look at his belt to see if he was the Chameleon, but nobody did.
"Oh no! Which one is which? Could the real one be the one with the belt or the one without? I don't know!"
Seriously, it was dumb.

[Caveboy0]

Yeah Spectacular Chameleon rocked! Realistic. More like in tha comics!

i like how he was more of a spy with all the gadgets and stuff. in the 90's series he was more of an assassin or mercenary.

[Spider-Tim 075]

Dude yeah it did. All anyone had to do was look at his belt to see if he was the Chameleon, but nobody did.
"Oh no! Which one is which? Could the real one be the one with the belt or the one without? I don't know!"
Seriously, it was dumb.


I can debate about why it was fitting in the 90's. But I'm not gonna get into that now.

[BackinBlack07]

I can debate about why it was fitting in the 90's. But I'm not gonna get into that now.

No, go ahead. This is technically a thread for that.

[Spider-Tim 075]

No, go ahead. This is technically a thread for that.

Ok main reason :

"With the amount of times the Chameleon had to change into someone else in TAS, it would simply be impossible if he had the face masks..."
So yeah he kinda needed it to do what he was doing in the script.

Comics:
In the first appearance I think he has a facemask but later he also has a machine thing.

back then:
in the 90's this was more acceptable than now. Back then, kids wanted that kinda stuff more. Like the laserguns. perhaps the star wars era effected the spidey universe. But some of the soldiers did look like Doc Ock's men in the comics.

Anyway. I DO prefer the Spectacular adaption the Chameleon. I prefer the facemasks to the machine. All I'm saying is that you should keep these things in mind before you say : "it was horrible"

[BackinBlack07]

back then:
in the 90's this was more acceptable than now. Back then, kids wanted that kinda stuff more. Like the laserguns. perhaps the star wars era effected the spidey universe. But some of the soldiers did look like Doc Ock's men in the comics.


Wrong. Fox cracked down alot of censoring on Spider-Man. From Wikipedia:

By 1994, heavy censorship was being enforced by Fox because certain shows were being banned for excessive violence in some countries. So in a bid to make the Spider-Man animated series as politically correct as possible, the producers of the show were instructed to abide by their extensive list of requirements.[1] Among the notable restrictions were:

Not mentioning "Death", "Die", "Kill" or other words with a strong negative meaning. Death was to be avoided, leading Semper to skirt around the issue. "Destroy" and "destruction" were frequently employed as synonyms.[2] For example:
Rather than explicitly stating that Uncle Ben was killed it is only said that he "was shot" and that Peter "let him down."
It is stated that the Punisher's family was "caught in a crossfire between rival gangs", and the same applied to the wife of the Destroyer.
At one point, when the Green Goblin returns after seemingly perishing, Spider-Man says, "You?! But I thought you were-" and the Green Goblin cuts him off with, "I'm not.. but you'll soon be!" before throwing a Pumpkin Bomb at Spider-Man.
When Hydro-Man was defeated and evaporated, Mary Jane asked "Is he-?" Spider-Man cuts her off by saying "Not necessarily." He goes on to explain that water that evaporates always eventually returns to the earth in the form of rain.
There were exceptions, such as when Felicia's mother was attacked by Kraven, and stated "That madman nearly killed you." or when Mary Jane suggested that Harry was trying to "avenge the death of his father."
Many realistic guns were not allowed, and no firearms could shoot bullets, so instead they fired lasers complimented by 'futuristic' sound effects. This often led to scenes in which ordinary policemen wielded futuristic pistols. However, in Episode 3.09, Robbie Robertson's son Randy finds a real-looking gun in his father's desk, though it is never fired on screen, and in Episode 56, when Keane Marlow is telling the story of how he lost his wife, the bank robbers are firing a pistol and a semi-automatic. In "Day of the Chameleon", the Chameleon is about to pull out a realistic looking pistol from behind his back before Spider-Man stops him. In "Sting of the Scorpion" a flashback show's Jameson's wife's killer supposedly using a realistic gun in a drive by shooting.
Spider-Man was not allowed to hit anyone with his fist, however there were a few exceptions.[2] In Episode 39 ("The Spot") in which he used his spider-sense to guide a punch through a dimension portal and knock out the Spot. He also punched the Scorpion twice in "The Final Nightmare."
No crashing glass was allowed. However, in Episode 43, when Spider-Man and Doc Ock were battling in Felicia and Anastasia Hardy's home, Ock accidentally smashed a glass window with one of his tentacles.
No children in peril, although there was a scene where a teenager was stuck to the bottom of an elevator, about to be crushed until Spider-Man saved him.[2]
No vampires were allowed on the show. This created complications with the use of the characters Morbius the living vampire and Blade the vampire hunter. Consequently, Morbius only drained victims through suckers on his hands, rather than by biting them in the traditional vampire style on the neck, and rather than blood, his sustenance was referred to only as "plasma." However, the word "blood" is used regularly in non-vampire episodes. True vampires later appeared anyway, primarily in the form of Blade's vampire mother, but they are not shown actually biting anyone.
Spider-Man was not allowed to harm any pigeons when he landed on rooftops.[2]
Cletus Kasady a.k.a. Carnage was not a serial killer in the series, he was just a madman. Carnage never actually used his symbiotic blades to harm anyone, he was either stopped or dodged. He also absorbed people's energy rather than killing them outright. However, he has made a few references to attempts to murder. For instance, when Baron Mordo stated to him that he needed a few more life forces, Carnage said "Only a few? Too bad!". He also referred to his process of draining life force as "feeding".
There are, however, notable exceptions to these rules. Examples include:

When Spider-Man and Mary Jane Watson confront Hydro-Man in Episode 2.03 for the last time, Hydro-Man vaporizes when he touches hot ground, and never returns.
Due to the unstable DNA structure of the clones of Mary Jane Watson and Hydro-Man, they vaporized and died.
Several other characters, including Mysterio, Jameson's wife and the Kingpin's father were implied to have died off-screen.
It should be noted that the restricted words were sometimes mentioned regardless of Fox's censorship. For example, in "The Insidious Six", Scorpion states that he'd "kill to work for the Kingpin" (a common exaggeration used by many). Another variation appears in "Hydro Man", where Liz Allan says the word in pig latin to Mary Jane. When trying to reason with The Spot, Spiderman said "You're no killer." Scorpion even said the word "kill" in his first appearance and the death words were used regularly in the Six Forgotten Warriors five-part episode saga.
After the September 11, 2001 attacks, ABC Family heavily edited the episode "Day of the Chameleon" to remove the World Trade Center buildings, parts of the New York skyline, and a helicopter crashing into a building, exploding, and falling to the ground below, among other shots. This resulted in the first scene being impossible to comprehend as it was originally intended. Dialogue was re-looped to match the new, shorter version. Some production credits from the episode are missing as well, due to their being on screen during the omitted footage. They also removed the last two episodes of the second season since both of them featured a building burning down. Another noticeable edit can be view in season three's "Enter the Green Goblin" episode. In the original, the Goblin Glider slams into a building with Spider-Man riding on top. In the newly edited version, the scene is cut, and Spider-Man emerges from a hole in the side of the building. Another edit occurs near the end of episode 21, when it is revealed that Kraven and Punisher's last battle with the "Man-Spider" was in fact inside the parking garage of the World Trade Center, and that Kraven had deduced the location by smelling some webbing left at a previous battle and detecting remnant soot in it from the terrorist bombing of the early 1990s. The whole sequence of Punisher finding out where they are and Kraven's explanation of how he knew where to look for them was cut, though the battle scenes within the garage are left intact, since obviously they could belong to any parking garage until the final revelation.

[GreenGoblin075]

Wrong. Fox cracked down alot of censoring on Spider-Man. From Wikipedia:

wow...what a time we live in:D

[webhead9707]

when yur little u see lasers and normal police and ur like awsome now you see it and its like man thats dumb!

[Spider-Tim 075]

Wrong. Fox cracked down alot of censoring on Spider-Man. From Wikipedia:

Ok then. But don't denie the fact that Chameleon couldn't change into the kingpin like he does in the "insidious six" episode with simply a face mask...

when yur little u see lasers and normal police and ur like awsome now you see it and its like man thats dumb![

I guess your right. But the tv series are mainly for kids so in princeple theres nothing wrong with that. But I do admit that the Spectacular Spider-Man has a plot clever enough for adults actually lol.