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BackinBlack07
06-16-2008, 09:03 PM
Who kills her? Should they keep it traditional and stay with Green Goblin, or should they take the Ultimate road and go with Carnage?

Red X.
06-16-2008, 09:16 PM
I think Gobbie should do it. This show made me like his character a lot more.

MaydayParker143
06-17-2008, 09:34 AM
I don't think Gwen has to die at all.
IMHO, The Goblin should kidnap her and take her to the bridge, but Spidey would actually save her. After something like that happens, Peter decideds to break up with her.

PS. Welcome to the forms, Red X. :D

Webber3000
06-17-2008, 10:06 AM
SHE MUSTN'T DIE!!! :mad:
Thank you! :)

shadow_spidey
06-17-2008, 10:18 AM
Why can't you have one when you can have both? If she does die. Meaning, have what Mayday said, then on the next season or so, have Carnage sadly kill her. :) That way we're all happy.

Or just scratch that and have her live. And have the sadistic things happen to MJ. There's a M. Night Shyamalan twist ending! LOL!

Red X.
06-17-2008, 11:18 AM
PS. Welcome to the forms, Red X. :D

Thank you! :venom:

Why can't you have one when you can have both? If she does die. Meaning, have what Mayday said, then on the next season or so, have Carnage sadly kill her.



Oooh! That sounds cool. I like it.

BackinBlack07
06-17-2008, 11:26 AM
Why can't you have one when you can have both? If she does die. Meaning, have what Mayday said, then on the next season or so, have Carnage sadly kill her. :) That way we're all happy.

Or just scratch that and have her live. And have the sadistic things happen to MJ. There's a M. Night Shyamalan twist ending! LOL!

You mean better than the plants and trees giving off a gas killing people? (Yeah, I'm serious. That's the twist in The Happening. I know, right? WTF? I just saved you about 10 buck and 2 hours of you life. Now use both and go see the Incredible Hulk.)

As for Gwen, I think she will die, but they may wait to do it in one of the DTVs they're planning.

Red X.
06-17-2008, 11:51 AM
You mean better than the plants and trees giving off a gas killing people? (Yeah, I'm serious. That's the twist in The Happening. I know, right? WTF? I just saved you about 10 buck and 2 hours of you life. Now use both and go see the Incredible Hulk.)

As for Gwen, I think she will die, but they may wait to do it in one of the DTVs they're planning.

lol. I saw the Hulk instead lol (but i didn't have to pay cuz i work at a theater lol).

I dunno if I want Gwen to die. It would be really dramatic and interesting though, so they should do it.

ss3kid
06-17-2008, 12:33 PM
You mean better than the plants and trees giving off a gas killing people? (Yeah, I'm serious. That's the twist in The Happening. I know, right? WTF? I just saved you about 10 buck and 2 hours of you life. Now use both and go see the Incredible Hulk.)

As for Gwen, I think she will die, but they may wait to do it in one of the DTVs they're planning.

I saw that movie last night. The plant thing was stupid, but I liked how it came up with way to kill you. Like the lion, or the Lawn Mower. Messed up.


Ask for Gwen, I think she shouldn't be killed, just pull a 'Harry Moment' and go on 'Vacation'.

MaxGSpideyFan
06-17-2008, 12:43 PM
Well i dont think she should die yet, But when the time comes i think GG should be the one to end it all :greengoblin:

jacobs101
06-17-2008, 12:47 PM
She will die. They're just building up the romantic relationship between pete and gwen so that the audience feels that much more worse :cry: . Plus I've heard that the people who have adapted the spider-man into the media are always scared of putting her in because ultimately, they know they're going to have to kill her off (which is why spiderman tas didn't include her; well, except for the last episode of course. but she wasn't an occurring character). Well.... she's in THIS show so....

Lizardboy
06-17-2008, 12:56 PM
why should she die?

Ock/Joker fan
06-17-2008, 01:38 PM
why should she die?

The same reason why she died in the comics.

Green Goblin should kill her, of course. Carnage is too lame and unimportant to get such an honour.

shadow_spidey
06-17-2008, 01:53 PM
You mean better than the plants and trees giving off a gas killing people? (Yeah, I'm serious. That's the twist in The Happening. I know, right? WTF? I just saved you about 10 buck and 2 hours of you life. Now use both and go see the Incredible Hulk.)

As for Gwen, I think she will die, but they may wait to do it in one of the DTVs they're planning.That's not what I meant. I thought it was funny to say something like that. :)

But thank you for some what ruining the movie for me. :(

Spider Rider
06-17-2008, 03:16 PM
Yes I think she should die, and if she dies, sometime within the next 2 seasons. It is an important part of the charachter. And I don't want a thing where spidey saves her once and then she dies. Why? Beacuase he's already saved her from a supervillain (venom for you slow guys who don't remember:p) so the next major event involving gwen IMO should be her death at the hands of Gobby.

webhead988
06-17-2008, 04:14 PM
Those who talked about the Happening, watch the spoilers. You just spoiled the entire movie for those like Shadow who didn't and still want to watch the movie. If you're gonna talk about something that off-topic and spoiling at least have the decency to put a spoiler warning. Just cause you saw it doesn't mean you have the right to ruin it for everyone else ....

The_torteldeuce
06-17-2008, 04:36 PM
cancer

cancer kills her

butt cancer

dodgeballer27
06-17-2008, 05:20 PM
they wont kill her in a kids show i dont see it happening

xFredSlacks77x
06-17-2008, 05:47 PM
they will not kill such an important character in a kids show as dodgeballer pointed out. she will stay a factor in peter's life throughout the series, even if they will not always have a relationship. i can definatly see her and peter becoming close and goblin coming back and dropping her off a bridge, but this time she is saved by spider-man.

i do think that her life could be put in jeopardy during the direct to dvd releases. either carnage or goblin could kill her in those series. i could definatly see captain stacy getting the ax sometime in the 2nd or 3rd seasons but not a main character in the show.

jacobs101
06-17-2008, 06:00 PM
I guess were all assuming she'll die on a dtv... But it's really hard to assume whether they can kill someone who is currently on the show due to S & P.

The_torteldeuce
06-17-2008, 06:06 PM
I'm telling you guys it's butt cancer

webhead988
06-17-2008, 06:27 PM
I'm telling you guys it's butt cancer

hahahah

The_torteldeuce
06-17-2008, 06:32 PM
hahahah

butt cancer is no laughing matter young man

especially on such a fine butt

shame, shame on you

webhead988
06-17-2008, 06:37 PM
even betterrrrr

BackinBlack07
06-17-2008, 09:07 PM
they wont kill her in a kids show i dont see it happening

Kids shows have shown people being killed before, like Legion of Superheroes.

Red X.
06-17-2008, 11:53 PM
Kids shows have shown people being killed before, like Legion of Superheroes.

Yeah they have some intense stuff on kid's shows nowadays.

jacobs101
06-18-2008, 08:19 AM
what did they do in legions again? I think i recall some guy sacrificing himself in an explosion of some sort? But I would imagine gwen's death to be more horrific and 'in your face' (if she does get her neck cracked). That seems something more relatable to kids which i'm sure they're scared of showing that much depth in a killing.

lopli
06-18-2008, 08:56 AM
I think it should be goblin.Like in the classic comic books.

lopli
06-18-2008, 09:00 AM
what did they do in legions again? I think i recall some guy sacrificing himself in an explosion of some sort? But I would imagine gwen's death to be more horrific and 'in your face' (if she does get her neck cracked). That seems something more relatable to kids which i'm sure they're scared of showing that much depth in a killing.
I think if she does die they'll probably show it off screen since it's a kids show.

jacobs101
06-18-2008, 09:11 AM
I think if she does die they'll probably show it off screen since it's a kids show.

If its on DTV, they probably won't be afraid to show it. But yeah, the easiest way is to NOT show the death and rather the horrified face of the victim, or the hero.

lopli
06-18-2008, 09:27 AM
If its on DTV, they probably won't be afraid to show it. But yeah, the easiest way is to NOT show the death and rather the horrified face of the victim, or the hero.
Yeah.

Erusnine
06-25-2008, 08:53 AM
I joined these forums today just because I felt a powerful need to express somewhere how incredible I think this new treatment of Spiderman truly is. This particular forum post caught my attention because it was so unusual and a truly pleasant surprise to see Gwen Stacy included in this ensemble and these same thoughts have been running through my head. Will she die? Would they do that?

The thing that so impresses me about this show is not simply how they are treating the classic Spider-man cannon with so much respect, but also how much heart and soul the show has. This show “feels” right. It makes me feel like a kid and I am anxious to watch it with my 4 year old daughter.

The other day, my daughter asked me the question, “What’s dying mean?”

Wow, that was a tough one. But, the thing is … kids ask these questions … they want to know. Our media … our world is so full of all this stuff and most of it is callus and cold and desensitizing and destructive.

I want this team of storytellers … this group that is doing this Spider-man to do the “Death of Gwen Stacy” story line. I want them to stay as true as they can given the current treatment to the classic cannon (i.e. the Norman Osborn Green Goblin is the killer and then dies himself.) and I want them to deal with this issue with all the love and heart and soul that they have lavished on this series so far. I trust that they could do a good job and I trust that “kids” will understand. Kids need to understand. The youth of today are already being exposed to death in so many ugly ways … why can’t someone be brave enough to do it right?

I love this show. I trust the producers of this show in the choices they have made. Brad Bird proved that this can be done with the Iron Giant. I’d like to see this team tackle this issue. I think that they want to. I think that’s why Gwen is here. Please do it. If you do … when you do … I’ll be sitting there watching with my 4 year old daughter and we can both have a nice cry together.

Regards,


Erus

ss3kid
06-25-2008, 09:31 AM
I joined these forums today just because I felt a powerful need to express somewhere how incredible I think this new treatment of Spiderman truly is. This particular forum post caught my attention because it was so unusual and a truly pleasant surprise to see Gwen Stacy included in this ensemble and these same thoughts have been running through my head. Will she die? Would they do that?

The thing that so impresses me about this show is not simply how they are treating the classic Spider-man cannon with so much respect, but also how much heart and soul the show has. This show “feels” right. It makes me feel like a kid and I am anxious to watch it with my 4 year old daughter.

The other day, my daughter asked me the question, “What’s dying mean?”

Wow, that was a tough one. But, the thing is … kids ask these questions … they want to know. Our media … our world is so full of all this stuff and most of it is callus and cold and desensitizing and destructive.

I want this team of storytellers … this group that is doing this Spider-man to do the “Death of Gwen Stacy” story line. I want them to stay as true as they can given the current treatment to the classic cannon (i.e. the Norman Osborn Green Goblin is the killer and then dies himself.) and I want them to deal with this issue with all the love and heart and soul that they have lavished on this series so far. I trust that they could do a good job and I trust that “kids” will understand. Kids need to understand. The youth of today are already being exposed to death in so many ugly ways … why can’t someone be brave enough to do it right?

I love this show. I trust the producers of this show in the choices they have made. Brad Bird proved that this can be done with the Iron Giant. I’d like to see this team tackle this issue. I think that they want to. I think that’s why Gwen is here. Please do it. If you do … when you do … I’ll be sitting there watching with my 4 year old daughter and we can both have a nice cry together.

Regards,


Erus


That touch's me. Right here, man *points at heart and tear drops*
And Welcome to the forums

MaydayParker143
06-26-2008, 02:17 PM
I joined these forums today just because I felt a powerful need to express somewhere how incredible I think this new treatment of Spiderman truly is. This particular forum post caught my attention because it was so unusual and a truly pleasant surprise to see Gwen Stacy included in this ensemble and these same thoughts have been running through my head. Will she die? Would they do that?

The thing that so impresses me about this show is not simply how they are treating the classic Spider-man cannon with so much respect, but also how much heart and soul the show has. This show “feels” right. It makes me feel like a kid and I am anxious to watch it with my 4 year old daughter.

The other day, my daughter asked me the question, “What’s dying mean?”

Wow, that was a tough one. But, the thing is … kids ask these questions … they want to know. Our media … our world is so full of all this stuff and most of it is callus and cold and desensitizing and destructive.

I want this team of storytellers … this group that is doing this Spider-man to do the “Death of Gwen Stacy” story line. I want them to stay as true as they can given the current treatment to the classic cannon (i.e. the Norman Osborn Green Goblin is the killer and then dies himself.) and I want them to deal with this issue with all the love and heart and soul that they have lavished on this series so far. I trust that they could do a good job and I trust that “kids” will understand. Kids need to understand. The youth of today are already being exposed to death in so many ugly ways … why can’t someone be brave enough to do it right?

I love this show. I trust the producers of this show in the choices they have made. Brad Bird proved that this can be done with the Iron Giant. I’d like to see this team tackle this issue. I think that they want to. I think that’s why Gwen is here. Please do it. If you do … when you do … I’ll be sitting there watching with my 4 year old daughter and we can both have a nice cry together.

Regards,


Erus

Whoa...That was deep. :bowdown:

Erusnine
06-27-2008, 02:15 PM
Whoa...That was deep. :bowdown:

Lol... thanks! (It's the way I really feel... I love this show... I want the producers of this show to tug and my heartstrings... because I know that they can.)

Oh, and I LOVE your website!!

Erus

Jick08
06-27-2008, 02:27 PM
as much as I'd like Carnage to do this...I think Goblin is the one who should kill her in the cartoon.

webhead988
06-27-2008, 02:54 PM
Defenitely. Carnage was the ultimate way. But I guess it's better to follow the amazing way. lol...

Arcainite
06-27-2008, 03:28 PM
Defenitely. Carnage was the ultimate way. But I guess it's better to follow the amazing way. lol...
It reminds me of when Spider-Man is fighting Mr. Fantastic in the Marvel Civil War and Mr. Fantastic says, "Spectacular." Spider-Man says something like, "No. Amazing."

webhead988
06-27-2008, 05:04 PM
It reminds me of when Spider-Man is fighting Mr. Fantastic in the Marvel Civil War and Mr. Fantastic says, "Spectacular." Spider-Man says something like, "No. Amazing."

lol haha those references are nice.

webheadparker
06-27-2008, 07:14 PM
It should always remain with the comic story line. The Green Goblin should be the one that kills Gweyn Stacey.

MaydayParker143
06-27-2008, 10:12 PM
Lol... thanks! (It's the way I really feel... I love this show... I want the producers of this show to tug and my heartstrings... because I know that they can.)

Oh, and I LOVE your website!!

Erus

Thanks. That site's a labor of love. ;)
Still working on parts of it. It should be at 100% soon.





Unless I get the job I'm after... :p

xFredSlacks77x
07-08-2008, 10:31 AM
to be honest i think both carnage and green goblin could kill gwen stacey, and both ways it could be powerful. Erusnine's post brought up so many good points, including the fact that kids should be exposed to death in a good way. I 100% agree with everything he said, but i don't think that the network is daring enough to teach the kids with such a vital character sadly. captain stacy is far more likely.

the bottom line is that if the producers had carnage kill stacy, half of the fans would feel betrayed by the move. if the producers had green goblin kill her, everyone could accept that this is the original way.

The Boy of Hell
07-08-2008, 10:33 AM
carnage or grren goblin can kill , but i thinck that carnage is going to do it:innocent:

MaxGSpideyFan
07-09-2008, 08:09 AM
carnage or grren goblin can kill , but i thinck that carnage is going to do it:innocent:

Nah it will be GG if there staying true to more of the classic comics then it will be GG.

xFredSlacks77x
07-09-2008, 08:45 AM
Nah it will be GG if there staying true to more of the classic comics then it will be GG.

yeah i agree. and i think weisman wants to establish gg as spidey's joker. the foe that takes those he loves and is an even match. gg will do the most damage to spidey personally and psychologically, and he will make the most appearances.

MaydayParker143
07-09-2008, 09:15 AM
I think that we can all safely same that if they do end up killing Gwen off, it'll be Goblin's doing.

I just don't see this team doing anything else.

xFredSlacks77x
07-09-2008, 09:20 AM
I think that we can all safely same that if they do end up killing Gwen off, it'll be Goblin's doing.

I just don't see this team doing anything else.

agreed. now the death of captain stacy.... i wonder how they'll do that!

MaydayParker143
07-09-2008, 09:25 AM
I hadn't given much thought to Captain Stacy. http://www.deviantart.com/download/44179724/Hmm__Wank_by_FSDown.gif

xFredSlacks77x
07-09-2008, 09:32 AM
i was thinking that he could die in season 3... that would give a new storyline for peter and gwen to follow even if they have broken up by then. with the gang wars, maybe he gets caught up in the battles, and is taken out by one of tombstones men... or maybe hobgoblin... idk.

what would be powerful is if lizard did it while in lizard mode, and connors had to live with it his life. but thats a little dark...

MaydayParker143
07-09-2008, 09:35 AM
Your first thoery sound like the most likely.

While the Lizard idea would be great, your right about it being too dark for a kid's show.
Then again Avatar: Last Airbender is also a kid show, but it can get very, very dark sometimes.

xFredSlacks77x
07-09-2008, 07:23 PM
Your first thoery sound like the most likely.

While the Lizard idea would be great, your right about it being too dark for a kid's show.
Then again Avatar: Last Airbender is also a kid show, but it can get very, very dark sometimes.

yeah... i would like for them to make it very meaningful, and not just a way to fill up an episode. you can make a death meaningful, or you can just make it part of the plot, but i have faith in the people who do this show that they will make capt. stacy's death important.

MaydayParker143
07-10-2008, 06:17 PM
Yeah, if anyone can do it right, it's these guys.

spider fan 100
08-22-2008, 07:17 AM
they wont kill her in a kids show i dont see it happening

yes you'r right but in thefirst episode they use the fu word. so they could let green goblin kill off gwen who knows?:greengoblin:

MaxGSpideyFan
08-22-2008, 08:10 AM
yes you'r right but in thefirst episode they use the fu word. so they could let green goblin kill off gwen who knows?:greengoblin:

When did they use that word?

rjh'012
08-22-2008, 08:54 AM
Goblin should kill Gwen. The Death of Gwen Stacy is an instant classic.

Caveboy0
08-22-2008, 09:18 AM
Goblin should kill Gwen. The Death of Gwen Stacy is an instant classic.

once again its a kids show and thats a real tough thing to pull off. they better not do what they did in the 90's series with mary jane and her disappearing.

rjh'012
08-22-2008, 09:58 AM
once again its a kids show and thats a real tough thing to pull off. they better not do what they did in the 90's series with mary jane and her disappearing.

Oh, I forgot this was about Spectacular Spiderman. Yeah, Gwen's character might not get killed off. I remember in the 1994 Spiderman cartoon, the villain Morbius (a vampire) drained energy instead of actual blood.

Thats the reason why they don't show Batman's origin (parents being murdered) in cartoons.

shadow_spidey
08-22-2008, 12:30 PM
Even though this this cartoon is categorized as a show for "kids" I think they could have Gwen or anyone be killed really. Mainly because the poeple making it are fans of the comics, pass cartoon shows and the movies. So they take things from those. Mainly the comics and movies. But if they're going to stay true and maybe switch things around a bit, like Green Goblin is Harry, or is that just what they want us to think?

If they don't want to show Gwen dying, or her father or any other villain or character, they could imply it. ;) :)

And I believe the character use real guns or something? In the '90s series, they had laser guns, robots with lasers, everything laser! No one dying. No blood. Or anything. That was a little over 10 years ago. Things have to change a little.

rjh'012
08-22-2008, 01:02 PM
I guess they could show Gwen's death. They did show the Joker being shot/electrocuted in Batman Beyond: The Return of the Joker. I think Gwen's death could slide by.

Caveboy0
08-22-2008, 01:07 PM
Even though this this cartoon is categorized as a show for "kids" I think they could have Gwen or anyone be killed really. Mainly because the poeple making it are fans of the comics, pass cartoon shows and the movies. So they take things from those. Mainly the comics and movies. But if they're going to stay true and maybe switch things around a bit, like Green Goblin is Harry, or is that just what they want us to think?

If they don't want to show Gwen dying, or her father or any other villain or character, they could imply it. ;) :)

And I believe the character use real guns or something? In the '90s series, they had laser guns, robots with lasers, everything laser! No one dying. No blood. Or anything. That was a little over 10 years ago. Things have to change a little.

all they had was mary jane disappearing

shadow_spidey
08-22-2008, 05:44 PM
I guess they could show Gwen's death. They did show the Joker being shot/electrocuted in Batman Beyond: The Return of the Joker. I think Gwen's death could slide by.But that was direct to video. Hey! Here's an idea. Have her death maybe in a DVD/Blu-ray Disc release? Like have one of the seasons be a cliffhanger then release the DVD/Blu-ray Disc and hve it title as "The Night Gwen Stacy died or perished". That would work. Something like that. Like have 2or 3 episodes in one. They would be the last 2 or 3 episodes of the season but not aired on tv.

all they had was mary jane disappearing

I know. But Spot's invention that Green Goblin stole.

Symbiote789
08-23-2008, 09:45 PM
But that was direct to video. Hey! Here's an idea. Have her death maybe in a DVD/Blu-ray Disc release? Like have one of the seasons be a cliffhanger then release the DVD/Blu-ray Disc and hve it title as "The Night Gwen Stacy died or perished". That would work. Something like that. Like have 2or 3 episodes in one. They would be the last 2 or 3 episodes of the season but not aired on tv.


That could work!

Or if they don't want to kill her off, she could just break her arm or leg or something, or make her handicap for the rest of her life.

Keehar
08-24-2008, 11:34 AM
Green Goblin should kill her. I hope Carnage is never in the show.

Spider-Tim 075
08-24-2008, 12:06 PM
Green Goblin since I still overall prefer the Amazing Spider-Man version.

I do like Carnage doing it in the Ultimates. But not what I want to see hehe "filmed" (animated?) :D

webhead988
08-24-2008, 07:50 PM
I don't see Ultimate Carnage in SSM.

MaydayParker143
08-24-2008, 08:18 PM
Never seen Carnage in USM. What's he like? http://smvillainslair.5.forumer.com/html/emoticons/smvillainslair/SSMC.gif

BackinBlack07
08-26-2008, 04:20 PM
Never seen Carnage in USM. What's he like? http://smvillainslair.5.forumer.com/html/emoticons/smvillainslair/SSMC.gif

Well, if Carnage is in the show, I'm sure we'll still get Cletus Kassidy, but toned down. Anyway, Ultimate Carnage is the result of Dr. Connors doing experiments with Peter's blood and using some processes used in the creation of the Venom suit. We first see the creature as a fetus, but it breaks out and starts to kill people to grow and hold its body together, and one of its victims is Gwen. It's almost a clone of Peter and has his memories. The first Carnage creature was killed when Peter threw it into a smoke vat at a factory. During the Ultimate Clone Saga, a Gwen clone was created that could also turn into a Carange creature under high stress moments.