EXCLUSIVE: Sam Raimi Talks ‘Spider-Man 4’ Villain Possibilities — But Will He Go Obscure?

[Marvel 2099]

EXCLUSIVE: Sam Raimi Talks ‘Spider-Man 4’ Villain Possibilities — But Will He Go Obscure?

http://splashpage.mtv.com/2009/05/28/exclusive-sam-raimi-talks-spider-man-4-villain-possibilities-but-will-he-go-obscure/

It’s a question on the minds of film buffs and comics fans alike, as they look forward to 2011’s return of Peter Parker to the big-screen: Who will he be fighting?

Recently, Sam Raimi revealed to us that he’s a mere four weeks away from reading a first draft of the “Spider-Man 4” script. And along with writer David Lindsay-Abaire, there are a few key elements they’re looking for in a potential villain.

“I’ve talked with David about a possible villain, villains, villain-ess,” the director grinned, being careful not to reveal genders or numbers in regards to Spidey’s nemesis. “[We’ve spoken] about who knows what Spider-Man’s conflicting personas would be.”

Some longtime Spidey fans are arguing these days that Raimi should stick to the bigger-name characters and have Peter Parker square off against someone like The Lizard, Venom or Carnage, while others would prefer to see him shine a spotlight on such more-obscure villains as Morbius, the Living Vampire or Sinister Six characters like Vulture or Electro. At this point, Raimi told us he’s open to introducing even the most obscure of supervillains.

“That would be absolutely fine,” explained the filmmaker, whose insanely intense “Drag Me to Hell” lands in theaters later this month. “But I’m not looking [for things] like that.”

“I’m trying to, with the writer, find Peter Parker’s story primarily,” Raimi said of what factors will weigh on his selection of supervillains. “And find the right conflict for him to come up against. So that either he can grow as a human being and overcome this thing, or perish. It’s more about finding the villain that represents the best story for Peter.”

And although Raimi revealed to us that he does know which super-villains Lindsay-Abaire is working into his script, they are still subject to change. “Really, I have to read the screenplay and see if it’s working, what we’ve discussed,” explained the filmmaker. “Before I really, in my heart, could tell you that I knew.”

“Spider-Man 4” is due in theaters May 6, 2011.

[Caveboy0]

Interesting, but hopefully this won't take the focus away from Spider-Man. He seems so Peter centric right now.

I think a good logical step would be Lizard and Kraven. It would have a theme of Redemption. Peter failed Harry and he won't fail Dr. Conners.

That's my ideal theme to go with.

[webhead988]

Nothing new really. Much of the same. Except he apparently knows who's being written in.

[mrrobparker]

i THINK I'll prefer Lizard for the 4th one.....

[Ock/Joker fan]

"It’s more about finding the villain that represents the best story for Peter.”

Yawn. He says that with every movie.

Nothing new here.

[Caveboy0]

Yawn. He says that with every movie.

Nothing new here.

which worries me. he's getting more Peter centric with each movie. Hopefully he heard the out cry from the fans that they want more Spider-Man.

[spider-Deee]

Electro should be next...then mysterio...then lizard.......and while ur at it think about casting tony ja for ur stunts done in the spidey-suit...no need for cgi...trust




EXCLUSIVE: Sam Raimi Talks ‘Spider-Man 4’ Villain Possibilities — But Will He Go Obscure?

http://splashpage.mtv.com/2009/05/28/exclusive-sam-raimi-talks-spider-man-4-villain-possibilities-but-will-he-go-obscure/

It’s a question on the minds of film buffs and comics fans alike, as they look forward to 2011’s return of Peter Parker to the big-screen: Who will he be fighting?

Recently, Sam Raimi revealed to us that he’s a mere four weeks away from reading a first draft of the “Spider-Man 4” script. And along with writer David Lindsay-Abaire, there are a few key elements they’re looking for in a potential villain.

“I’ve talked with David about a possible villain, villains, villain-ess,” the director grinned, being careful not to reveal genders or numbers in regards to Spidey’s nemesis. “[We’ve spoken] about who knows what Spider-Man’s conflicting personas would be.”

Some longtime Spidey fans are arguing these days that Raimi should stick to the bigger-name characters and have Peter Parker square off against someone like The Lizard, Venom or Carnage, while others would prefer to see him shine a spotlight on such more-obscure villains as Morbius, the Living Vampire or Sinister Six characters like Vulture or Electro. At this point, Raimi told us he’s open to introducing even the most obscure of supervillains.

“That would be absolutely fine,” explained the filmmaker, whose insanely intense “Drag Me to Hell” lands in theaters later this month. “But I’m not looking [for things] like that.”

“I’m trying to, with the writer, find Peter Parker’s story primarily,” Raimi said of what factors will weigh on his selection of supervillains. “And find the right conflict for him to come up against. So that either he can grow as a human being and overcome this thing, or perish. It’s more about finding the villain that represents the best story for Peter.”

And although Raimi revealed to us that he does know which super-villains Lindsay-Abaire is working into his script, they are still subject to change. “Really, I have to read the screenplay and see if it’s working, what we’ve discussed,” explained the filmmaker. “Before I really, in my heart, could tell you that I knew.”

“Spider-Man 4” is due in theaters May 6, 2011.

[Caveboy0]

Electro should be next...then mysterio...then lizard.......and while ur at it think about casting tony ja for ur stunts done in the spidey-suit...no need for cgi...trust

he can spin webs and crawl on walls? If he can then of course we don't need cgi.

[Reno-Man]

All this means is that The Spot is the next villian.

[Caveboy0]

All this means is that The Spot is the next villian.

indeed it does :p

[SpiderRock88]

cool hopefully we find out soon

[web_head_33]

Nothing new really. Much of the same. Except he apparently knows who's being written in.

true

[jnkaram1]

The villain has to be carnage, no questions asked!!

[Jick08]

Raimi can't handle Carnage, man.

[Caveboy0]

The villain has to be carnage, no questions asked!!

:rolleyes: another carnage fanboy

[mr.excellent]

Nothing wrong with a great story about Peter Parker, just make Peter an interesting person to watch. Most of us enjoyed Iron man for the pieces that only involved Tony Stark. There are plenty of interesting movies about average guys out there, Parker could be fun to watch too even though he isn't a playboy billionaire. It's nice that they want a villain that'll be best for the story of Peter Parker, but they can really have a lot of fun creating amazing things from these sometimes 2 dimensional characters. I feel that Sandman might have been developed into the greatest of the villains thus far showcased in the movies if they had just focused on him. I don't care about the Uncle Ben thing really. Sometimes we do things in life for a reason, and later we find that our reason was a lie. Sure it's a little disappointing, but if you find a good thing from it, why quit? People act as though Parker has no reason for being Spider-man anymore.
You'll all shoot me for referencing this, but in TDK, Bruce Wayne held on to some of his strength to be the martyre at the end of the film because he thought Rachel was going to pick him over Dent. Should he find out the truth in the future (which he won't), sure he'd be ultra ticked and depressed, but would he quit being Batman? No. Parker isn't Bruce Wayne, but after 40 yrs worth of comics, we know that Peter would keep on keeping on.

[Lizardboy]

Lizard should be the next big villain in the film and I'm not saying that because I'm a fan of him, I'm saying it because I think he'd fit in with Spidey/Peter's story as well.

[beyond94]

Bring in Felicia Hardy Black Cat into no.4 I feel she fit into the storyline along
with the Scorpion or the Lizard.:love:

[aliensuit1495]

Interesting article
Bring in Felicia Hardy Black Cat into no.4 I feel she fit into the storyline along
with the Scorpion or the Lizard.:love:

I wouldn't mind Scorpion and Lizard. That pair is one of my top choices for SM4. I really don't know about black cat.

[beyond94]

Bring in Felicia Hardy Black Cat into no.4 I feel she fit into the storyline along
with the Scorpion or the Lizard.:love:If Peter is looking for redemption
I really believe the can find it by helping the Black Cat from being a crook to
heroine with adding her origin storyline involving the death of her father and
why she became Black Cat and her obsession with Spidey.:o

[Caveboy0]

If Peter is looking for redemption
I really believe the can find it by helping the Black Cat from being a crook to
heroine with adding her origin storyline involving the death of her father and
why she became Black Cat and her obsession with Spidey.:o

nice idea.

[calebyourmaster]

please give me mysterio, raimi!

[aliensuit1495]

please give me mysterio, raimi!

That would be interesting right there. I would kinda like mysterio. I think we can save him for a later movie though.

[web_head_33]

That would be interesting right there. I would kinda like mysterio. I think we can save him for a later movie though.

i agree

[Mob1423]

EXCLUSIVE: Sam Raimi Talks ‘Spider-Man 4’ Villain Possibilities — But Will He Go Obscure?

http://splashpage.mtv.com/2009/05/28/exclusive-sam-raimi-talks-spider-man-4-villain-possibilities-but-will-he-go-obscure/

It’s a question on the minds of film buffs and comics fans alike, as they look forward to 2011’s return of Peter Parker to the big-screen: Who will he be fighting?

Recently, Sam Raimi revealed to us that he’s a mere four weeks away from reading a first draft of the “Spider-Man 4” script. And along with writer David Lindsay-Abaire, there are a few key elements they’re looking for in a potential villain.

“I’ve talked with David about a possible villain, villains, villain-ess,” the director grinned, being careful not to reveal genders or numbers in regards to Spidey’s nemesis. “[We’ve spoken] about who knows what Spider-Man’s conflicting personas would be.”

Some longtime Spidey fans are arguing these days that Raimi should stick to the bigger-name characters and have Peter Parker square off against someone like The Lizard, Venom or Carnage, while others would prefer to see him shine a spotlight on such more-obscure villains as Morbius, the Living Vampire or Sinister Six characters like Vulture or Electro. At this point, Raimi told us he’s open to introducing even the most obscure of supervillains.

“That would be absolutely fine,” explained the filmmaker, whose insanely intense “Drag Me to Hell” lands in theaters later this month. “But I’m not looking [for things] like that.”

“I’m trying to, with the writer, find Peter Parker’s story primarily,” Raimi said of what factors will weigh on his selection of supervillains. “And find the right conflict for him to come up against. So that either he can grow as a human being and overcome this thing, or perish. It’s more about finding the villain that represents the best story for Peter.”

And although Raimi revealed to us that he does know which super-villains Lindsay-Abaire is working into his script, they are still subject to change. “Really, I have to read the screenplay and see if it’s working, what we’ve discussed,” explained the filmmaker. “Before I really, in my heart, could tell you that I knew.”

“Spider-Man 4” is due in theaters May 6, 2011.

if you listen to the Spider-Man 3 commentaries Raimi always wanted an aerial battle and were considering Vulture (Ben Kingsley). but my opinions for the 4th movie are Kraven and Lizard

[Arcainite]

if you listen to the Spider-Man 3 commentaries Raimi always wanted an aerial battle and were considering Vulture (Ben Kingsley).
An aerial battle between Vulture and Spider-Man would be very cool. It would be challenging to do for the fx/CGI people but it would be worth it because I don't think we've ever seen it yet in a movie (except briefly in Iron Man). Although, Spidey has to base all of his attacks around either Vulture or things that are up there in the air for him to use to try to stay high up.

[xFredSlacks77x]

An aerial battle between Vulture and Spider-Man would be very cool. It would be challenging to do for the fx/CGI people but it would be worth it because I don't think we've ever seen it yet in a movie (except briefly in Iron Man). Although, Spidey has to base all of his attacks around either Vulture or things that are up there in the air for him to use to try to stay high up.

what about harry vs. peter in spidey 3 in their first battle? that was semi-aerial... though i would still like to see vulture in a future spidey film

[DualDier12]

what about harry vs. peter in spidey 3 in their first battle? that was semi-aerial... though i would still like to see vulture in a future spidey film

Yeah it was Semi-Aerial. It was really cool though. What I didn't get is why no one noticed there was a random guy just web slinging. No one noticing. Maybe they were too high up but I swear they could see the road and they weren' THAT high up. Maybe..idk. Anyway, the battle was cool and I liked it. And how useless peter got when harry cut his web off from mid flight.

[Caveboy0]

Venom is not dead it just looks that way...venom is a symbiote and the guy who plays venom was nowhere to be found...you dont get blown up and not have remains. Hobgoblin is not funny, hobgoblin is the shiz haha. I'm just saying that if anything venom and carnage should be an ender.

look at it in slow motion man. eddie is vaporized. you can see his skeleton. also he wasn't wearing the symbiote. plus the symbiotes weakness is fire. you saw it burn to nothing.

http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii255/DeathToTNA/0f95f318.jpg

[DualDier12]

look at it in slow motion man. eddie is vaporized. you can see his skeleton. also he wasn't wearing the symbiote. plus the symbiotes weakness is fire. you saw it burn to nothing.

http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii255/DeathToTNA/0f95f318.jpg

Caveboy0, did you forget? Dr. Connors kept a sample of the Symbiote. I read that somewhere Peter did too for emergencies only, idk. But we all know Connors still has a sample of the symbiote.

[Caveboy0]

eddie is dead deal with it. go watch that part again. i'll find a youtube video.

i know the symbiote is still alive, but eddie is not.

this is the deciding factor. Sam Raimi, the director, does not like the symbiotes thats why Venom was done so poorly because he was coaxed into doing a character he doesn't really understand or like.

if the director doesn't like the character why would be bring him back?

[DualDier12]

You my friend can go ahead and calm down. That's not what he meant. And why in heaven are you cussing at him? You're being a bit of a douche (no offense)

And wow, the pic is not photoshoped. It's real. It's a screencap from the movie.

Yes, THEY could bring back a symbiote character. THEY could. Because Dr. Connors has a sample of the symbiote. But, if Raimi is directing, don't expect him to put in symbiotes. He doesn't like them.

[aliensuit1495]

not to mention not all of the symbiote left that metorite impact site;however, it would be easy to say that that would not be the same symbiote that attached to spidey or brock, a character well-established in the comics and done horribly in the movie.

btw, i was kidding on the photoshopped. get a clue.

That's an assumption. We don't know that, but I'd say most likely none of it was left.

[Caveboy0]

not to mention not all of the symbiote left at the metorite impact site;however, it would be easy to say that that would not be the same symbiote that attached to spidey or brock, a character well-established in the comics and done horribly in the movie.

btw, i was kidding on the photoshopped. get a clue.

what the heck? that wasn't really that funny or a joke for that matter. why would you kid about that? its kind of random and a bit stupid.

[Caveboy0]

i don't want a venom spin-off. It would be like asking for a wolverin spin . . . oh wait. that pile of **** already came out.

wolverine was pretty good

[DualDier12]

not to mention not all of the symbiote left at the metorite impact site;however, it would be easy to say that that would not be the same symbiote that attached to spidey or brock, a character well-established in the comics and done horribly in the movie.

btw, i was kidding on the photoshopped. get a clue.

So then you just wasted a post? Why the heck would you do that? If you think its photoshopped, you don't have to post it! It's like you're TRYING to troll or something!!

Anyway, dude the point is, Venom will not be returning to SM series. Unless someone new directs the 6th film. (That hasn't been confirmed) but I bet you money Raimi will direct a 6th film if the 5th one is good enough.

[aliensuit1495]

i don't want a venom spin-off. It would be like asking for a wolverin spin . . . oh wait. that pile of **** already came out.

Well it's too bad if you don't want it because you're getting it. It was confirmed

And the wolverine spin-off wasn't that bad

[DualDier12]

wolverine was pretty good

Yeah, it was good. I agree. Too bad for you, a Venom Spin-off is already in the works. And big Venom fans are looking forward to it. So please, just stop and calm down already!

[aliensuit1495]

Yeah, it was good. I agree. Too bad for you, a Venom Spin-off is already in the works. And big Venom fans are looking forward to it. So please, just stop and calm down already!

Yeah that

Calm down.

[aliensuit1495]

you're an assumption . . . assumer.

What the hell?
I'm an assumption? It's obvious that I can be no such thing due to the fact that a living breathing human being who is having a conversation with you cannot be an assumption. An assumption exists in the mind. If something is real then it is not an assumption

And I am not an assumer either. What's with you?

[Caveboy0]

its called being happy with what you get. we take these movies for granted so much. would you rather have none of these movies? no Spiderman, no X-Men, no Iron Man?

I'm just happy that we even got these movies in my life time.

[Caveboy0]

be more positive. what marvel movies do you actually like?

[Mob1423]

be more positive. what marvel movies do you actually like?

wish they would make a Captain America movie

[Ock/Joker fan]

wish they would make a Captain America movie

I thought they were making one?

[Caveboy0]

wish they would make a Captain America movie

um they are making a Avengers movie. of course they're going to make a Cap movie.

[DualDier12]

I thought they were making one?

They are. He is key for the avengers. Google it if you need to.

[Mob1423]

I thought they were making one?

im not totally sure it was confirmed

[DualDier12]

im not totally sure it was confirmed

Yeah they are making a Captain America. Trust me.

[aliensuit1495]

Cap movie is as good as confirmed. They will make it

[Caveboy0]

It looks like a guy dressed up in a Pinecone suit. Idk. Anyway let's hope Raimi doesn't get impulsed into putting in a villain by Avi Arad again.

yeah he should focus on making a movie that he can like and be proud of.

[aliensuit1495]

It looks like a guy dressed up in a Pinecone suit. Idk. Anyway let's hope Raimi doesn't get impulsed into putting in a villain by Avi Arad again.

Yeah, he shouldn't have listened to Arad. Hopefully with him having full creative control this won't happen again.

[DualDier12]

I don't think Arad has that kind of authority anymore?

And hooray, the troll has been banned.

I think Avi Arad was only a producer or something for the first 2 films and Raimi wanted him to help produce the 3rd one..but Avi said..I want Venom or something and yeah..idk idk how it went down..but it was something like that. You get what I mean.

Yeah, but I'm all for Lizard, man.

[Caveboy0]

I think Avi Arad was only a producer or something for the first 2 films and Raimi wanted him to help produce the 3rd one..but Avi said..I want Venom or something and yeah..idk idk how it went down..but it was something like that. You get what I mean.

Yeah, but I'm all for Lizard, man.

me too. i'm thinking lizard and electro. everyone says kraven, but it'd be nice to be surprised with electro.

[DualDier12]

me too. i'm thinking lizard and electro. everyone says kraven, but it'd be nice to be surprised with electro.

One thing I didn't get is why they put Lizard and Kraven into the SM3 video game. I never understood that. But, yeah Electro is cool..I think I watched the amazing Spider-man cartoon series with him in it in one episode or 2. But uh..Electro..or shocker..or someone good.

[Symbiote789]

Nah, I don't want to.

[Symbiote789]

Yes, thank you very much Guides :)

[aliensuit1495]

Yay! Finally. :yay:

[Caveboy0]

Ding dong, the trolls are dead.

Thank you, Guides.

:LOL: :LOL:

[Caveboy0]

finally, lets just forget this ever happened.

[DualDier12]

finally, lets just forget this ever happened.

Iv'e already forgotten what ACTUALLY happened. Not really, but wouldn't it be nice?

[web_head_33]

I thought they were making one?

yeah they will be. it's confirmed

me too. i'm thinking lizard and electro. everyone says kraven, but it'd be nice to be surprised with electro.

i would love to see electro and if not kraven with lizard then electro would be my back up choice but i would prefer electro in five

[ultimatspidy]

i think sam raimi will definitely go with the lizard for spider-man 4. its kinda set up for him although he's got a good carnage story that he could tell too

[Arcainite]

One thing I didn't get is why they put Lizard and Kraven into the SM3 video game. I never understood that. But, yeah Electro is cool..I think I watched the amazing Spider-man cartoon series with him in it in one episode or 2. But uh..Electro..or shocker..or someone good.
Because the action of the movies isn't enough for a video game, especially since it will be missing a lot of the drama from the movies. So they need to fill the void by adding more encounters.