View Full Version : WHO DO YOU THINK WOULD BE THE NEXT VILLAIN FOR SPIDEY 2
arachnid78
12-16-2001, 10:09 PM
I FOR ONE THINK THIS WILL BE A GREAT MOVIE. iT SEEMS SAM RAIMI IS KEEPING WHAT MAKES PETER PARKER/SPIDER-MAN, IN THE FILM. FOR FANS AND NON-FANS.
OBVIOUSLY GG WAS GOING TO BE THE FIRST VILLAIN TO HIT THE BIG SCREEN BUT I PERSONALLY THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT TO SEE ANOTHER ONE OF MY FAVORITE SPIDEY VILLAINS FOR THE SEQUEL...AND NO IT IS NOT VENOM OR CARNAGE. I WAS THINKING DOCTOR OCTOPUS. JUST MAKE HIM A LITTLE MORE MENACING IN THE MOVIE ( KINDA LIKE A SUPERHERO VERSION OF HANNIBAL LECTER W/O THE CANNIBALISM THOUGH) AND IT CAN WORK. WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK? NO? YES?
LET A GUY KNOW....
BuzzLY
12-17-2001, 11:29 AM
Woah, easy on the caps, pal... ;)
There are many rumors that Doc Ock is going to be in the first movie, although my personal belief is that he will only be in for a short cameo, to establish his presense. He would be the most logical choice as the villain in #2.
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black_vegeta
12-17-2001, 12:47 PM
That's a long way away, but I would like to see venom.
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serrien
12-17-2001, 02:38 PM
nobody talks about Electro anymore, he can be a great enemy you now!!!!
arachnid78
12-17-2001, 04:12 PM
HEY, FORGIVE THE CAPS BUZZY...I DIDN'T KNOW THEY WERE SO HURTFUL TO YOUR BABY BLUES. ANYWAY...I THINK ELECTRO WAS MY SECOND CHOICE, BESIDES DOC OCK. BUT WOULDN'T HIS ORIGIN BE A LITTLE HOKEY? HE GOT STRUCK BY LIGHTNING WHEN HE WAS WORKING ON A COUPLE OF LOOSE WIRES AS AN ELECTRICIAN. PERHAPS THEY COULD MAKE HIM A MUTANT.
THE ONLY OTHER THING I COULD THINK OF WAS THE OLD SPIDEY ANIMATED SERIES OF THE MID 90'S. IN THAT SERIES ELECTRO MADE HIS DEBUT AS A NAZI WEAPON. HE WAS CREATED IN THE SAME SENSE THAT CAPTAIN AMERICA WAS CREATED. HE COULD PERHAPS BE A GOVERNMENT WEAPON OR SOMETHING AND PETER GETS CAUGHT UP IN IT AS A PHOTOGRAPHER AND THUS SO DOES SPIDEY. JUST THROWING AROUND IDEAS. WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK?
Dusk_Spidey
12-17-2001, 04:51 PM
Alrighty, I belive that Doc Ock is in the first movie, as a villian, NOT a cameo. So , lets recap.
Green Goblin and Doc Ock in the first movie as a defenate.
Second movie, I would go with Kraven.
Kraven because he nearly KILLED Spidey in one comic by outsmarting his Spider-Sence.
Then, I would start the Symbiote Spidey thing and have him lose at the end of #2 and start #3 with Venom and a reappearence of Doc Ock.
#4 I would defenatly have Harry as Green Goblin, and The Vulture.
#5 Camillian and Rhino
#6 Morbius: The Living Vampier and Hobgoblin
#7 Venom and Spidey team up aganist CARNAGE
I dout that they will go on if even that far, so I'll qiute while I'm ahead.
BuzzLY
12-18-2001, 07:31 AM
On a messageboard, ALL CAPS LOOKS LIKE YOU ARE YELLING. It's proper netiquette to not use them.
Anyway, Electro would make a cool alien. I am not convinced Doc Ock is going to be a villain in this movie -- anyone have a link that proves otherwise? I think it would be cool as hell to have him in there, but if they truly are following the storyline of the new Ultimate Spider-Man comic, then they really don't have time to bring him in. We'll see.
What surprises me, is that nobody has brought up the scene where GG drops MJ off the bridge. That was supposed to happen to Gwen Stacy -- yet nobody is complaining about the story being twisted like that? Very interesting...
Do you think Spidey is going to break MJ's neck trying to save her?
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jaredcocken
12-18-2001, 07:53 AM
Doc ock was in the original David Koepp shooting script, but has been cut out of the re-write. I would imagine because what they wanted to do was going to be very expensive CG-wise.
balthuscat
12-18-2001, 03:28 PM
I just want to say that a long time ago, when I first read in a comic that they were trying to make a Spiderman movie with James Cameron and all that, I thought to myself that Dr. Octopus would be the best to see on screen. If anyone here watched the cartoon from the mid-90s, then you'll know the part in the opening sequence where Spiderman is running through between a whole bunch of crates, and Doc Oc's arms are chasing him, violently smashing through everything in their path. I think that that would be one of the greatest moments in film if it were done nicely, and with real people.
In the movie game Spidey fights the Volture and Shocker could they be a possible team up with Doc Ock. I've heard toward the end we will see Doc's arms in the shadows. I don't know if it's true or not.
arachnid78
12-19-2001, 09:33 PM
NETIQUETTE??? OKAAAAAAY THERE BUCKO!! i WILL LOWER MY VOICE.
I think making Electro an alien is a horrible idea mainly because that just wouldn't work for a character such as Spider-man. He is supposed to be the everyman, with everyday problems. With an occasional villain or two. That would only put him into a category where the eveyday person couldn't relate to him. Thus, killing his appeal. I think Doc Ock would be great if he were handled the way he has been portrayed in Ultimate Spider-man. Even Electro's version is cool. There still is that reason why he got that way though. Either way It would be fun to see what they come up with.
I feel that comic book adapted movies will no longer fall into the category that "Batman & Robin" put them into. X-men paved the road for telling a good story based on comic book heroes and I feel that this film will do the same. Hopefully all the other films planned by Marvel will keep that caliber going.
SithCrawler
12-19-2001, 10:11 PM
Without any doubt I would choose Dr.Ock as the next
villian to appear in the continuing saga of the Aracnid,(Spider-man)..hehe. But doing so would end up being a reoccuring theme such as young budding science wizard that is P.Parker against Dr. Otto Octavius. Which seems to be the same as this debut film that's coming this summer.
So I assume maybe a grittier villian to be the next movie, likeVemon,Sandman,Lizard,Vulture. For the Record I hope they do end up choosing Dr.Ock......8^)
BuzzLY
12-20-2001, 05:22 AM
Bucko? LOL
I agree with the "everyman" take on things. You can't have the villains be too much larger than life -- then Spider-Man would have to be larger than life, and that just doesn't fit him.
Yes, Marvel comics movies are really coming around. I am really interested in seeing how Punisher and Hulk come out. I hope they are the same caliber as X-men and Spider-Man
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hakanakcay
12-20-2001, 12:47 PM
venom definitely....
arachnid78
12-20-2001, 09:50 PM
I don't think Venom would be the greatest choice for the next one. Too over the top. I love the character, don't get me wrong, I just don't think he's the right choice.
Hey maybe the Rocket Racer...hmmm...I can see it now. Just kidding guys. Back off Buzzly I was only kidding.
I think maybe the scorpion would be cool. You know, have the whole Jameson angle to it. He funds the project that creates a genetically altered human that can beat Spidey. It all goes to hell of course.
Let me know.
BuzzLY
12-21-2001, 05:08 AM
That would be very cool, actually. I just hope if they DO use Scorpion that they don't try to do it like they did the Scorpion King in The Mummy II. Those were pretty lame effects.
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rout67
12-21-2001, 06:49 AM
I don't really think he would be a good villan for the movie budgets sake. I don't know who he should take on in the second one but I have a feel ing that its gonna be good .
I think they could've found someone else to play Mary Jane Watson. But I guess I'll see when the movie comes out.
dusk2099
12-26-2001, 08:27 AM
Why not do a second movie on the lizard? Dr. Conners being peters' friend, and spidey having to find a way to cure him as well as stay alive would be good. It would have to be the mindless violent Lizard though, the Lizard with plots of world domination would be to cheesy for the second movie. If you don't like that idea, how about Kingpin?
messenger_z
12-26-2001, 10:10 AM
Hi:
Well maybe the possible villains in the sequel could be DR. OCK and LIZARD but...Who could be this villains?( about the actors)
Maybe DR. OCK--->Arnold Schwarzenegger, Kevin Spacey or....What else??? WRITE YOUR FAVORITE!!!!
LIZARD--->Nicolas Cage, Gary Sinise, Gary Oldman.... WHAT ACTOR DO YOU PREFER???
Well I hope that every user check this topic and this message so that tell us their opinions OKIROKI!!!
Messenger^Z
well guys, first of all, for a sequal, what ruined the batman movies is that they were about the villains and not about batman or bruce wayne. and we all know that the best part of spider-man comics is that he's not spider-man. he's peter parker filling out his responsibilities. they need to do something that will change spidey for the next one. it would suck to have harry be GG immideatly after his dad (save that for number three). after playing out a scene from Enter Electro, i think instead of a techy bad guy they should go with the mafia with kingpin (and have the same actor from the daredevil movie). but that would probably lead to a spider-man and daredevil movie crossover which i have no complaint about. after all, if you like spider-man you have to also like daredevil. it's hand to hand.
How bout the jackal cuz it would be cool to have a movie about the clones. Now don't started debating about that. I liked Scarlet Spider and reading back on the first half of the clone saga (when ben was scarlet). those were sum good books.
The best idea is to either have black costume and doc ock, kingpin, or jackal.
seriously five movies would tell a complete story, ending with norman osborn who is the number one spiderman villain (venom would also be accepted under that title)
oh yeah...
arnold shwarzeneger????
haven't you seen batman and robin. he blew a part that would have been perfect in the hands of patrick steward.
last i checked doc ock was short and chubby and didn't pull stupid wise cracks (which if arnold did doc ock, he would do).
maybe gerard depardeu (or however you spell it)
but i wouldn't worry because whoever casted this movie, is genius any ways.
i put in more thought to my post last night.
it should be like a 1930s mafia movie with kingpin, hamerhead, chameleon, rose, and tombstone, fixing up an injured doctor octavius and using him to trash spiderman but spidey teams up with daredevil, and the movie ends with a cliffhanger, and is ended in daredevil 2.
i like the idea. too bad it's too risky for a neurotic producer. (they all suck).
later
h_jatala
12-29-2001, 08:39 AM
Let's see...villain...at first i thought Venom would be the one, but now i'm leaning more towards Doc Ock (since he was in the original draft). But here's something new...how about a sub-plot rivalry between Kingpin and Silvermain...maybe ...what do ya think...Opine people,please!
dusk2099
12-30-2001, 09:17 PM
lizard(doc conners)- if he would do it, Micheal Keton could easily do a good doc conners(his voice would make a good voice over for the lizard).
doctor octopus- if octavious is in the first movie i would trust that sam rami cast a good actor to portray him in the sequel, if not then maybe he could cast someone who has yet to break onto the big screen that would fit the role better than a big name actor that doesn't work as well.
the only villan that anrold swartzanegger could play would be eddie brock and do a computer enhanced voice over to make venom more freaky.
just as a thought, how about jeremy irons as electro, or hobgoblin?
evolutionary
01-05-2002, 01:50 PM
the scorpion!!! the whole idea it great. thenext choice would be a mix of symbiote suit spider man against kraven, coz theres an issue where kraven does some nasty damage to symbiote spidy the it can go from there in the next movie with venom. i see it now, spidy manages to beat kraven and the symbiote suit in film 2 and it joins with brock then the very beginning of spidy 3 the venom saga.
or like someone already said one about the mafia coz its not all super villans and super freaks against our favorite wall crawler. tell me wt u think of my sugestion
buddy, spidey never fought kraven while wearing the alien costume. He wore the alien costume in ASM 252-259, and was buried alive in a regular nonliving costume by kraven the hunter in ASM 293.
yeah i know those are useless facts or whatever but my collection is still better than yours.
spideysam
01-08-2002, 02:32 AM
Ok first and foremost nobody has any evidence on who the villians are in this movie, ( apart from GG).
There is surpose to be a surprise in this movie and it is big hush hush.
You have to have a faithful bady. Osborn should be in most of the movie sequels, ( If he dosn't die ). If not as the no.1 bad guy but maybe hiring other badies to do the dirty work for him.
REPEAT: he could apear as Osborn, not as the Green Goblin.!!!!!!!!!!!!!
1. Deffinatly Doc Ock should apear in sequel, maybe blaming Osborn for "His accident"
2. Or maybe Little Osborn wanting revenge for his fathers surposed death.
3. Or maybe still; Osborn and Kingpin team-up ( Blackmail?) cause there always teaming up in the comics and cartoons!
Keep up the debate!
Spidey-Sam
even if he does die in this one it wouldn't matter. norman osborne is basicly immortal just like wolverine. he's been stabbed in the heart, blown up and god knows what else.
later
IronGiant08
01-16-2002, 01:56 PM
I vote it will be doc ock
Peace
spidey_tracer
01-16-2002, 04:16 PM
okay, it is venom. in #1 it looks like gg dies but he dont, cuz he got to kill peter's first love. #2 is gg and venom.
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brentage
01-16-2002, 04:47 PM
I think it is gonna be Doc Ock for the next movie, and if we're lucky, he'll be played by Ah-nuld (they already sound the same - if not, any guy with an accent). We can also further establish Eddie Brock's (he's in this one folks - trust me) and Peter's rivalry, and maybe throw some Kingpin in too, along with Daredevil of course. Number three can be Venom. Number four will be Harry as GG plus Hobgoblin. Number five can be Shocker and/or Electro. Number six can be Rhino and Scorpion. Number seven can be Sandman and Hydro, and number eight can be Spidey and a more under control Venom against Carnage (just make the script original and don't take it straight form the 14 part Maximum Carnage - it was a good series, but that would just ruin it).
spidey_tracer
01-17-2002, 12:02 PM
sorry dude, but acording to my connections, venom is in 2
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KaineDamo
01-17-2002, 12:30 PM
Then your connections are very unreliable.
spidey_tracer
01-17-2002, 02:01 PM
how would you know they are?
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ARM_COMMANDER
01-17-2002, 06:54 PM
I personally would love to see venom, next to spidey he is my favorite spiderman character, but he would require alot of Computer animations and stuff so very expensive.
I think doc ock would be cool but I never really liked him.
I don't know who the next bad guy should be but I do know that the movie is gonna rock!
I've heard that Doctor Octopuse and the Lizard are the villians. But one thing is sertain is that Venom will be in one of the sequels. I know this because Eddie Brock has a small part in this one.
A2JC
PS: I think they Venom will be in Ultimate Spider-Man real soon. On the last US-M issue Eddie Brock has a small line.
mtl128
01-19-2002, 08:29 AM
It would have to be Kingpin - at least one of them and I would love to play the part! I am big and intimidating and have a shaved head!
h_jatala
01-19-2002, 08:45 AM
Well lets see. Obviously they cant put all the villains in the various sequels but personally i would like to see lesser "team-ups" between the villains as many of them dont have anything in common to work with i.e. they dont click.
P.S. Schwarzenegger as Doc Ock??? Pllleeeeeeaaazzze!
Later.
kawkaw
01-19-2002, 01:32 PM
Are you crazy...didn't you see what he did to Mr. Freeze.
Keep Arnold away from the Spidey movies. Plus, the guy has almost ten years of flop movies.
KaineDamo
01-19-2002, 02:41 PM
The introduction of Eddie Brock does not automaticly mean that Venom is close by. There must be dozens upon dozens of major Spider-Man villians in the comics years before Venom even turned up. The storyline behind Venom would take a prequel before Venom appearing to explain the secret wars thing. GG and Venom in the same movie?? Are you serious??? They shouldn't introduce a villian in a movie because hes a modern favourite. Doc Ock would be much better. They've had so many crazy battles in the past, and Doc Ock is Peter's intellectual rival. He's a much better villian for the sequel.
spideysam
01-21-2002, 07:42 AM
You are right my friend!
Venom should not even be considered. Before he sould be:
Vulture.
Sandman.
Lizard.
Need I go on. That is according to comic book history.
But I do agree with Venom in the sense that he would be a scary and lively character... more so than a half man bird thingy and a scientist lizard man.
Who would play Eddie Brock?
My money is on Matt Damon
Later
Spidey-Sam
witowsmp
01-22-2002, 06:30 AM
I think they should make an origin story that makes the lizard blame either Peter or Spider-Man for his being the lizard, so that he's trying to get revenge on Spider-Man while Spider-Man's trying to cure him.
Patenaude
01-22-2002, 02:50 PM
i think doc ock would be cool but you guys can't forget to at least put in the hobgoblin i mean he is the one that gets to play with GG toys and all and it would be kinda neat to see them go at it on the gliders and stuff.
FusedGohan
01-22-2002, 11:47 PM
He's the classic Villian, of course he'd be the natual choice for the second film-if they make one that is. Up at the very begining when someone metioned Hannibal Lector as being kind of the legendary villian, it got me thinking that if Anthony Hoppkins could fake the accent that he could be Doc Ock. Who knows. I frankly don't care who the next villian is as long as they make a second one, and make it well.
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h_jatala
01-26-2002, 09:09 AM
I think somebody misunderstood my last message. What is was actually trying to say was that Schwarzenneger should not get to play Doc Ock and this person (whoever you are) thought otherwise. The long "Please" was a form of sarcasm.
Anyway on the topic of villains, i think either Doc Oc or Venom should be in the sequel or better yet, how about a whole series of sequels based on the whole "Neogenic Nightmare" episode from Spiderman's transformation to Man-Spider(Kraven has a role) all the way to Michael Morbius(a Blade cameo??)...
Later.
ARM_COMMANDER
01-26-2002, 11:21 AM
I would love to see venom but I dont' think it will happen, I don't know who it should be but I do know that the movie is gonna ROCK!
IndridCOLD
01-26-2002, 11:41 AM
VENOM ALL THE WAY!!!
Although Carnage would be my top choice, Venom is likely but not as liekly as Dr. Octopus.
But all the same Venom would be a sweet villain for the second movie. Michael Clark Duncan would be the perfect guy to play him too, when inside the suit at least. He just has that body build.
VENOM_913
01-26-2002, 12:49 PM
AS OPPOSED TO MANY OF YOU SAYING DOC OCK WOULD BE A GOOD CHOICE OR IT SHOULD IN THE ORDER OF COMIC BOOK HISTORY I SAY THE SECOND SHOULD TAKE PLACE IN ABOUT 4 YEARS AFTER THE FIRST AND THEN YOU CAN SHOW IN THE BEGINING SOME OF HIS BATTLES IN THOSE PAST 4 YEARS AND THE HAVE SPIDERMAN TEAM UP WITH BLACK KAT AGAINST VENOM AND HIS SON CARNAGE.
brentage
01-26-2002, 05:00 PM
Hey, spideysam, i hate to break it to you, but i KNOW that Eddie Brock is in this one, and he is not being played by that willowy old Matt Damon (not that i dont like the guy - seriously, he was my fave in Oceans 11). The role of Eddie has already been taken, so its safe to say that when they bring Venom in, they'll probably just use that guy.
I have already said this and I was the first to think of it, I think, that they should breing in Kraven the Hunter. Have Russel Crowe do it. Look at it this way Crowe with a goat-tee and a short versoin of a Wolverine hear due. He would look awsome and he has the right build for it.
How is this for a sequel Kraven and Doc Ock with a possible side of Lizard.
A2JC
KGutjahr
01-28-2002, 07:21 AM
It would have to be Doc Ock!
As mentioned before, Doc Ock is Peter's intellectual match. Also, how about this plot idea: Doc Ock could be one of Peter's professors (bio-physics research, maybe?) in college, who takes Peter under his wing, mentoring him and acting like a father figure to this bright young (and promising) science student...
Then when Dr. Octavious is transformed into Doc Ock by some freak science experiment gone bad (and goes mad from it), poor Peter has to battle someone that he has history with, has gotten to know very well, and used to trust and confide in (of course, not about Spiderman stuff - duh). He may win the battle, but he'll lose his friend and mentor in the end.
It's the classic "even if he wins, he loses" theme. Spiderman is all about Peter doing what's right, even when it impacts his personal life in the negative. Spiderman is more about Peter Parker, the man - his personal battles and turmoils and life, than just special effects and spectacular battles, blood and gore. Course, I don't mind the special effects and spectacular battles - I've seen the new trailer for Spidey #1... Awesome!
Either way, just as long as they keep the plot moving, and at the same par as X-Men (or better), the next movie should be a winner. Thanks for reading, and God Bless!
- BigSpideyFan (not like i think about this much...hehehe)
spideysam
01-28-2002, 07:32 AM
Not a bad idea you big spidey fan!
But was peter and Doc Ock ever that close...maybe in the cartoons.. but when spidey encouters Doc, Otto hardly recognises him!! Peter has to push him so he can recall the name Peter Parker.....BUT MJ dosn't have green eyes so why not change things..(Sulk!)
OH that was better...
Anywayz, Hey 'BUZZO' I sure hope that who ever they cast Eddie Brock to be is darn good..Theres a few Venom fans in the mist of the msg borads, And I wouldn't be the one tellin em some wimp is playing their hero!
Later
Spidey-Sam
Reddog271
01-28-2002, 02:00 PM
it's interesting that no one has brought up the King Pin. if you go back to most of the comics for some reason the King Pin and Doc Oc are in alot of the same issues. Even though there is no real connection between the two.
I also think there has to be a part for Christopher Walken as someone... I don't care who.. .but can you think of a better person to play a villian
venom40
01-28-2002, 05:13 PM
i think that the villain for spider man 2 should either be dr octopus or venom
Kingpin will not be in Spider-Man. Because he is in the Daredevil movie and is played by Michael Clarke Duncan. So in order to make since that Kingpin is one in the same they would get Duncan. But I highly think they aren't putting the Kingpin in Spider-Man.
garyextreme1974
02-03-2002, 09:11 PM
What I think is that if the Spiderman movies are going to be more than say a five-movie series, then you can have a more realistic time table for who should be the next super villian. You can develop more plot as well as the characters who will be the villians. You would not have to have two or more super villians in one movie (not that it's a bad idea).
For example, if it's a five year plan: Doc Ock, with developing plot twists for Eddie Brock and the symbiote for movie two. Number three could have Peter with the symbiote suit and battling let's say the Lizard or Green Goblin(Harry this time) or Hobgoblin with Peter riding himself of the evil suit and at the end of the movie Brock and the suit form Venom. Four could be Peter battling Venom and J. Jonah Jamison's creation, the Scorpion with Spidey beating both and the birth of Carnage at the end of movie four. The finale could be Kingpin teaming with Carnage and Spidey teaming with Venom and Daredevil with a special surprise.
If it's going to be more like a James Bond series, where there is NO LIMITS, then they should be more realistic and take their time developing characters and not rushing so many characters, especially villians like they did with the Batman movies. But again, my vote would be Doc Ock. Afterall, another accident-type villian would fit in this case and who to say not to create the Venom character and maybe the Kingpin as a side story. I just hope it's a hit either way!
spideysam
02-04-2002, 02:04 AM
Not bad theories. But did you know that Eddie Brock is in this movie!
What may that entail, we ask ourselves.
BuzzLY
02-04-2002, 06:24 PM
While I would really enjoy a crossover between DD and Spidey, and even the X-Men, the problem is that they are all under different companies. Spidey is Sony, of course, while DD and X-Men are 20th Century Fox. Hulk is Universal. So, the chance of us seeing crossovers is pretty slim.
We can dream, though!
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spideysam
02-07-2002, 02:22 AM
What about a Team-Up with BLADE!
And they could be fighting MORBIUS:THE LIVING VAMPIRE!!
That would be cool...
Tobey and Wesley could kick vampire ***....but not with names like that of course! More like Tobz and Wez!
What BuzzLY said two different companies. Spider-Man is Sony and Blade is New Line. And team-ups are in our dreams saddly. By the way has anybody read my post that I'm currantly writing a noval.
Hello! Hello! Am I all alone? Anyone here? Please anyone.
h_jatala
02-09-2002, 08:44 AM
Regardless of who the villain is, I have said it before and I will say it again there should be as little "team-ups" between villains as possible. The transition between the many spidey films should be, like someone already said, kept smooth and slow. I'm not saying that there should never ever be team-ups, nut they should only be when characters have common goals andmore than one similarity. Here's something to ponder about..."The Insidious Six" in one of the sequels???
Later.
BuzzLY
02-09-2002, 08:47 AM
A2JC, you have to give it time... look at the time between some of the posts here. sometimes people won't reply for a day. Patience, my friend. Someone will respond eventually.
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jlromang
02-18-2002, 10:14 AM
I prefer that villain in the 2nd film will be Dr. Ock, and about the actor to perform it (like somebody said), with Anthony Hopkinks that just will be awsome!!!!
Still thinking that with Venom, is going to be to soon in appearing in the 2nd. DR. Ock is my first choice!
And about the team things, I like to see Spidey alone, it will be ok with some cameo Appearance with some of the others Marvel heroes, but, still, just cameo appearance.
With others bad guys, why not? that's will be cool, but with different situation between this two or more bad guys.
chnike112
02-19-2002, 08:57 AM
they should soooo make Venom his next one because their rivalry is absoluetely classic and i think that in spidey 2 his enemy has gotta be him
spiderfreak2099
02-19-2002, 12:48 PM
first of all the spiderman movie movie WILL be great if it isn't i will kill myself!!!!!!!
i think it would be a great idea to have venom as the 2nd villan as he proves agood challenge to spiderman sharing most of his abillities. then towards the end the origin of doc ock to lead on to spidey 3!!!
and who else thinks that the green goblin looks quite 'puny' he would look a lot cooler if he looked like green goblin from the ultimate spiderman series witha animated cape like spawns! that would rool!!
jlromang
02-21-2002, 06:10 AM
Dr. Ock Dr. Ock, it's just to soon for Venom. Besides there will be others films of Spidey, come on, it's gonna be fun that have almost the same path like the comics.
spidey7272
02-22-2002, 05:22 AM
Doc OCK & The Lizard. Dont be surprised if both are mentioned in this film some how some way.
Guide_Manilla
02-22-2002, 09:16 AM
spiderfreak2099
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first of all the spiderman movie movie WILL be great if it isn't i will kill myself!!!!!!!
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I don't think it will have to come to that :) .. maybe.. perhaps.. dying to see it? :)
Guide_Manilla
BigSecretFan
02-22-2002, 11:53 AM
Ok, I can read all your posts in here but I say this:
Yes, the next movie must be about Doc Oc (I always thought of that) and Lizard (you are right). Venom could be only in the 3rd movie because it's too soon for him to come out. Besides, the other little villains like Rhino, Shocker, Scorpion, Kraven and others could be in just to "waist time" (well, it's a strong word, don't get me wrong), like Scorpion robbing a bank or Rhino terrorizing the city. So Spidey would stop them like every day bad guys.
Btw, there are toooooooo many villains in Spider Man that they can't be fit in all the movies. They could just make it like in BatMan - 1st one villain - Joker/Green Goblin, 2nd 2 villains - CatWoman and Penguin/Lizard and Doc Oc, 3rd another duo and so on...
(btw, check my pool in the characters forum and vote)
Robeau
02-22-2002, 02:40 PM
Mysterio , with all of his bizarre illusions would be fun for the efx people & great for us to watch.' Definitely would like to see Vulture, Electro & Sandman...Also, I think that the Green Goblin "armor" makes perfect sense. With Willem Dafoe, how bad could it be?
jlromang
02-22-2002, 06:21 PM
Yeah, something like that, BigSecretFan, but even in a better way than Batman. And of course, Spidey always saying his "punch lines"when beating the bad guy.
Dr. Ock, Dr. Ock, Dr. Ock!!!!
ishaan_500
02-23-2002, 08:44 AM
Doc Ock was supposed to be the main villain in the first Spidey movie but i think that the Goblin was a much better choice! In a WIZARD mag i read 4 yrs back,they said that James Cameron was supposed to be doing Spiderman...what happened? They've even put two of Cameron's Spidey scripts on the net.....one featuring Doc Ock (It's terrible) and the other featuring Electro and the Sandman. The latter is pretty good but undoubtedly,Riami's will be the best! And as far as symbiotes are concerned,it's a bit too early to bring either of them into the picture...they'll have to do the whole black spiderman bit before that!
spiderfreak2099
02-24-2002, 12:10 PM
whats up
they should have a brand new villan a enemy created especially for spidey 2, one that is incredably cool and could appear in the comics after. but if that doesn't happen i would like to see venom AND green goblin, pair up to tackle the web slinger. or the punisher, coz we would be pretty cool, i would get arnie to play him but make him drop the austrian accent. has ne1 got ne addresses to get spiderman the movie wallpaper or themes?
stu-poo
Who am I?.....You sure you wanna know?..... I'm spider-man
The 2nd- I have already said this- should have Doc. Ock., The Lizard, and Kraven the Hunter as the villians. With the Black Cat coming into the picture and onto Spider-Man. And have Peter prupose to MJ. In the 3rd have GG Jr(Harry), Venom, and Electro as villians as well as Lizard and Doc. Ock.. And have that classic wedding bash with Spider-Man and Black Cat fighting off the bad guys, with Harry trying to force MJ to marry him. Kind of a take off from the show but hey that would make an awsome trilogy.
A2JC
sjtfly
02-25-2002, 06:15 PM
seriously people dont be dumb. if there is a sequel it will have either doc ock or the lizard or venom cause r the most famous characters. they r obviously not gonna pick a villan that non-fans will know about like the vulture or electro.
i also heard that there was gonna be a daredevil movie
BigSecretFan
02-26-2002, 12:51 AM
Now listen up all Venom fans!
Well, actually all fans!
Read this:
http://www.countingdown.com/features?feature_id=18246
They say that Venom won't be in the sequel.
And they say lots of more stuff.
Griffspider
03-04-2002, 08:59 AM
Doc ock would make a great bad guy for spidey 2. But I think that seen as though norman osborn was the gg this time why not harry in the next movie. to make it even better he could always have doc ock as a henchman or evil sidekick! Either way it would still be the coolest movie ever !!
griff
SilverHand
03-11-2002, 06:05 AM
Hi Everyone -
I am new here, and from what I can see from browsing the forum area, there are some good topics to discuss, this being one. I've been a fan of Spidey since I was very young (I'm going to be 31 this month), and still am a huge fan, and was thrilled when the movie plans finally got jto the point of filming, etc.
On a quick side note, as far as the comment on the Batman movies, to me I didn't mind the direction of the movies (focusing on the villians), because Batman itself has a "dark feel" to it these days - to me they should have left it at 3 movies, and not four (now 5, deep sigh). The script for 4 was absolutely horrendous; blame the screen writers and director for trying to push the envelope a bit in the case of Batman's recent plummet on the screen. It is not so much the DIRECTION with the movies that was necesarrily the "achilles heel" (focus on the villians) in my view, but it was the simple fact of having a horrible script in 4, AND having too many characters, as well as changing some attributes (important ones) about a villian (Bane - making him more of a servant to Ivy - instead of the bad boy who broke Batman's back and nearly ended his career).
Now onto MUCH more important matters: assuming this movie does do well enough to actually make a sequel (the fans will be the determiners of that as far as the success of the movie, because when it comes to movies based on heros, etc the casual watcher is not the major determiner of a movie's success but the fans) - of which common sense says it probably will do well enough to make a sequel - I would not mind seeing Doc Ock. It's too early at this point to bring in Venom, and Doc Ock would be a great choice to pick next. If not Doc Ock (or as in the case sometimes with sequels trying to add more) - or maybe as well as Doc Ock - perhaps introduce the KingPin into the mix. I enjoyed Doc Ock and the character is one of the many classic villians. As we already are aware there are many different characters to choose from, but at this point in the movie process (being the second movie and all) I would have to tip my hat to the idea of Doc Ock being in the lead in the sequel. I think even Kraven could be a possibility (long shot though) too - I've always liked Kraven as well...but at this point I'd go with Doc Ock - it seems to make more sense to bring him into the picture, since he did come before Kingpin, ect. But if they don't use Doc Ock, I'd probably go with the Kingpin and Kraven as the next ones (maybe in that order) I'd like to see be used.
Best Wishes!
SilverHand :)
Mislu
03-19-2002, 12:35 PM
For me, there's just no better than Venom. I mean he is the perfect rival for spidey, and since he doesn't tips off peter's spider-sense, spidey would have to engange in battles without the help of it (thus increasing the difficulty of the fights and at the same time making pete rely more on his other powers, thus making him more experient). Imagine eddie brock going to pete's school (I guess college by then) with his press card and some fake work for a newspapper, facing peter face to face, throwing smart remarks and hints about peter being spider-man (like singing the itsi bitsy spider (after all, he is deranged) or saying "let's swing trough the hallways", or even "looks like you're trapped in a web full of work") and then threatning peter's colleagues and teachers if he doesn't follow him (facing peter that is) making pete to be pissed off and almost show his powers. Can you just feel the tension in a scene like that?!!!!!!
By the other hand, we would have to make peter find and wear the suit, then ditch it, then make eddie get caught in some scam by spider-man, then make the symbiont and eddie unit, and finally get the story rolling, and that isn't much feasible in a two hours movie, so I guess this idea's off.
Without Venom, I guess the doc ock/lizzard thing would work, but I would perhaps like it better with the kingpin and blackcat (imagine the tension she would cause to pete's relation with Mary) with maybe the hobgoblin as a doublecrosser henchman for the kingpin (you know, the "i'm taking over" type of foe) who would accidentally find's gg's weapons and equipment.
P. S. I think rhino would do terrible as a main villain. I mean the guy doesn't have the brains nor half the strength to be one of spidey's archfoe. Electro the same. The scorpion approach is more interesting because of jj's involvment, but scorpion still lacks the charisma to be an archfoe. Kravin would be interesting but only if well written, But there's a big downplus:he takes a serum to become stronger but it turns him insane (doesn't this ring a bell?). Sandman is tuff, still I don't like him too much
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