WHY!!!!!!! Organic webbing ????

[exarkun]

ok first off i'm a big raimi fan.
i collect every marvel title every week/month!
I AM A TRUE BELIEVER!!!
BUT! this raises some questions.
YES comics are make believe.
BUT people arn't into that any more cos of science.
YES this happens when people make films of any books
BUT the trend is changing look at lord of the rings!
basicly the've changed a bit already having web shooters that he's made is both practical and more realistic. not to mention true to spiderman.
So why change it????
for gods sake sam put it to right this is the only thing that going to make this film bad!!!!
most people can handle a costume change or a slight difference in background geez even marvel started the Ultimate series to help you out by changing the fans perspective of spiderman and still you insist on stupid organic webbing???
we can forgive the X-men costumes** come on black leather is cool**
We can forgive superman not being as hard as he should have been.
but we cant forgive such a small and silly thing as organic webbing he might aswell be shooting it out his bottom...really.
If you do this you'll be right up there with George Lucas for messing up starwars the phantom plotline and joel schumacher for killing batman and making him a swinging 60's goofy hero.
Sort it out you muppet

lots of love
paul
execlsior!!!

[_GwenStacy_]

I'm sure Mr. Raimi hasn't heard the last of the "organic shooters" story, but I really don't think he'd have put it unless it would work for the story. Besides Avi was there the whole process, if he had anything different to add to the story, he could've added it.

[amytoilet]

i understand this is a major thing, its just that it has been debated to death, went to hell, and debated to death again.

i think it was a stupid idea. rami's reasons was that if billion dollars corporations couldnt invent a super strong flexable material able to disolve in an hour how could a high school kid and also so peter can have more reason to feel alienated by all the regular other kids.

if thats all there is to it i dont think taking such radical steps to change something that has been with spiderman since the biginning should be altered.

[exarkun]

Ok thats a fair point amy

I never knew sam's reasons for doing it.
I only found out a while ago and i was shocked that they would change what is spidermans main source of transport so drasticly.
i think people would have been ok with ben reily style shooters, but mutant powers??

Have you read the ultimate spiderman comics?** if not have a look their really good**
I do believe most people think the film will follow the series.

Until next time true believers...
EXCELSIOR!!!

[Garmy]

When I heard Sam was giving Spidey 'organic shooters', I was kinda in the middle.
You see, with the organic shooters, we lose the huge amount of tension of "Oh no! Out of web fluid", and this is mostly the best bit because Spidey has to THINK. Also, it shows how Peter truly is a genius (building the shooters)
On the other hand, if Spidey didn't have the organics, his power seems quite...well, rubbish really! Stick to walls, Spider-Sense, strength. Look at all the other superheroes, they got groovy powers, so why can't Spidey shoot web from his wrist?
Well, that's my argument...

[otoshi]

he shoots his webbing from his shooters it is not like he has a new power. go to spidermanhype.com.
They have pics of Peter making the shooters. and a can of web fluid too so I have no idea what you guys are talking bout.

[mbennett73]

one point that I haven't seen brought up yet, and Im new to this board so pardon me if it has. If it's true that the movie Spidey has organic webs and can create webs without web cartridges, how is he ever going to run out of webbing? I remember seeing Spidey run out plenty of times in the comics and it was always at a pivotal moment in a battle. It was always a way for the bad guy to get away or a good way to leave the reader hanging at the end of a comic as Spidey fell from a tall building. What do you think?

[exarkun]

I dont think we will find out until the film comes out.
all i know is what i heard and what i have seen with my own eyes.
in the fake trailer at spiderman hype theres a bit showing you webbing pouring outta peter's wrist just gooing out??
if this was based on a plot leak then maybe its true.
however i have read in wizard and a few other sources that spiderman had web shooters?? some say he has to wear them all the time cos he cant control the organic webbing and some say that everything is fine and he's got his proper webshooters....

if anyone has any real evidence on this post a link or something cos i'm interested:)


Until next time true believers...
EXCELSIOR!!!

[comandermike]

NO ORGANIC WEBING WEB SHOOTERS ALL THE WAY!
P.S. U rule if u agree with me

[amytoilet]

i rule because i dont care, boyo.

[comandermike]

SHUT UP WHAT WOULD A TOLET KNOW!

[haqit]

Well i think that if they give spidey organic web shooters new comers who just want to see the film will think that spidey has always had organic web shooters and that is not true soo please sort this thing out!!!

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haqit

[Bsalxmenguy]

I Agree. Make it just like the comics. Besides Rael spider webbing doesn't come out at the hands. Plus if peter parker makes his web shooters it will show how smart he his.

[This message was edited by Guide_BamaBelle on 09.09.01 at 06:14.]

[beatnik]

Peter Parker uses the webshooters to control the "mutation".

--The web shooting jokes are really starting to get old fast. So if you're new to the message board, and you think you're being clever by using this joke... you're not.

[This message was edited by Guide_BamaBelle on 09.09.01 at 06:18.]

[darinroy]

I posted a message in the ALL ABOUT SPIDERMAN section about how I think a plot should develop to explain the organic webshooters in Parker's wrists.

Take a peek at it and maybe you can all rest easier...

Spiderman Forever.

[akira842]

check out my post and see what it think. dont worry i'm not the immature rude people we discussed earlier i just have an honest opinion

[Nespis]

I'm pretty sure the organic webshooters are gone, look at the new trailer, you see him testing them, hes got a can in his hands, and on his wrists are a couple of bands, but it might be his watch, but i can explain the one on his other wrist.

Nope, just rewatched, it, definately webshooters, who wears two watches?? I'll go see if spidermanhype.com has a screen capture, hold up,

[Nespis]

here: number 50 on the spidermanhype.com trailer screencaps
http://www.spidermanhype.com/cgi-bin/imageFolio.cgi?action=view&link=The_Movie/Trailer&image=trailer50.jpg&img=45&tt= you cant really see the one on his firing wrist, just go rewatch the trailer, its there, this picture has that hand blurred, and look at all the junk on his table,

[Frenchi]

Organic Webshooters are a hell of a lot more realistic than man made ones. For a start, the chances of a kid being able to create them is near impossible. Also, they are so small that they can bearly be seen, yet they supposedly hold enough fluid to get around New York all day(And yes i know the fluid expands but no fluid can expand like that).

And just another point, just because they're organic doesn't mean that he can't run out of fluid. All bodily fluids can run dry and so suspence is still possible.

[Jerry_S]

Peter Parker may be an average guy, but everyone is different in some way or another. Peter was different from most people before he was bitten by a spider in that he excelled in science. He was a scientific genius who designed his own web fluid. He never developed organic web shooters because he was not born with any of the powers he has now.. If he had, he would have been accepted as one of the X-Men. They should keep the characters as they are or were in the comic books.

[kawkaw]

But in the movie, Peter Parker will have organic webs, that are controlled by mechanical webshooters--that he builds, to direct his webs.

AGAIN, ORGANIC AND MECHANICAL WEBSHOOTERS ARE BOTH IN THE MOVIE.

I need not say more.

[This message was edited by Guide_Manilla on 06.20.02 at 12:21.]

[spider29]

I'm sure we'll all be able to live with it if we are and we are true Spider-Man fans. who knows, maybe if the film makers listen to the boards and realise the error of their ways they might actually consider making Spider-Man lose his ability to make his own webbing in future movies. just a thought

[evolutionary]

ok guys, spiderman in the movie has organic webing,deal with it.the shooters u see in the trailer are a form of controling the webs as the come out.proof of them being organic, look at the interveiws and u'll see what they have to say about it

your friendly neighbourhood evolutionary

[buny2]

What the heck is an organic web shooting? By the way, i think most of you are guys, i can tell by reading the posts.

[spider_21]

mainly because it shows Peter has a brain thats one thing l loved about spidey

[niki_angela]

so what if they are organic-if you take on a spiders powers dont you think making webbing should be included? why not? its more believable that way...and so it comes out of his wrists, so? why not?

[spider_21]

because it would come out his butt if he got the power from the bite. but your right oh well

[imurme]

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well, I agree that the use of the 'web-regulators' is a great compermise to the webshooters of our Spidey, and that they are just as intricate and complicated (showing Parkers intelligance) and that you could still have plot twists involving the malfunction of this device...it all fits together nicely, I can see only one problem with this...well...um, not sure how to break this to you...I dont want to spoil it for you, cause it's still going to be a amazing Spider-Man adaptation...ok, here it comes...the only problem is...there are no 'web-regulators, no webshooters, no mechs of any sort used in the movie, it is complete organics!
Now I know that is hard to deal with for some, at least I know I still havent come to terms with it...but that is the way of it...although I will always see Spider-Man with mech's in my minds-eye view of his character, thier just something I really like (didnt we all dream of having and/or making a pair for our-selfs as kids?) :)
But as it stands, i will face it with a grin as I enter the theatre to see The Amazing Spider-Man!!
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[jamesbender]

Just so all of you know..

Went and say Spider-Man last night.. Long time fan... The movie followed the comics very, very well.. At first I was shocked to find out that Spidey had Organic Web shooters in his wrists..

Then it was pure GENIOUS... It looked so much better than the comics, and followed his mutation so much better- see Peter was bitten by a radioactive spider (we all know that) he got all the powers of the spider except for spinning the web, right? What about the SpiderMan 2099 series.. ??? That spider-man was able to produce his own web..

I think it was totally awesome-- it was a great feature I'm glad they did it..

P.S- be sure to spot Stan Lee in the movie-- I'm sure you'll miss it if you blink.. Look in the part where GG attacks the Board Members at the parade- the building almost collapses on him... Oh yea- Macho Man is in it too...

-JB

[This message was edited by jamesbender on 05.04.02 at 12:49.]

[New_Spidey]

I agree. Why would Spider-Man get all of a spider's powers except webbing? Most people say that mechanical webshooters show Peter's genious since he made them, but how realistic is that? It doesn't make since that a 16 yr old boy can make a fluid that no one else could. Ultimate Spider-Man made up for this by showing that the webbing was based on a formula made by Peter's father. Personally, I rather have organic webbing. It probably would run our and need time to regenerate, but at least I wouldn't have to buy the chemicals for webbing or the materials for the webshooters.

This is my gift. It is my curse. Who am I? I'm Spider-Man.

[spidey_girl_]

Ok, I'm aware that in the comics mechanical web shooters were used, but I happen to like the idea of organic webbing, and I would be dissappointed if he lost that ability. I think it makes sense that he gets spider abililties, including web shooters... I think the idea of making something to help control his organic webbing could be a good way to make the fans of the mechanical web shooters happier... And I do agree that he could still run out of organic web, you could still have you him running out at pivotal moments. Your body isn't an exhastable resourse either as some ppl seem to think... There could be an interesting scene where he's fighting and runs out of webbing for the first time when he needed it... (and not because of lost ability either... :P)

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[foxieroxie]

ok guys, spiderman in the movie has organic webing,deal with it.the shooters u see in the trailer are a form of controling the webs as the come out.proof of them being organic, look at the interveiws and u'll see what they have to say about it

your friendly neighbourhood evolutionary

sam raimi's not gonna sell 148 million in tickets opening weekend by selling them to just fans, i'm sorry. for screenplay's sake changes had to be made, and evolution is the easiest thing to understand for most audiences. Avi approved all of the necessary changes cuz he was on board all the way. the point of the movie is not to copy the book, but to expand it. Nobody is doubting peter's genius, because he defeats villains with cunning not strength. peter's genius is never in question, but spidey's organic webs are just a sign of the times. that preserves what makes him unique. i'm all for organic webs.

[Blackspidey1000]

Organic shooters seemed to help the story of SM2 by giving something to malfunction in his powers (like the wall crawling) with his stress.

[wolfsfang]

my god you two have brought a thread back to life after it has been dead for FIVE YEARS....why?

[The_torteldeuce]

sam raimi's not gonna sell 148 million in tickets opening weekend by selling them to just fans, i'm sorry. for screenplay's sake changes had to be made, and evolution is the easiest thing to understand for most audiences. Avi approved all of the necessary changes cuz he was on board all the way. the point of the movie is not to copy the book, but to expand it. Nobody is doubting peter's genius, because he defeats villains with cunning not strength. peter's genius is never in question, but spidey's organic webs are just a sign of the times. that preserves what makes him unique. i'm all for organic webs.

good, gravy. why bump old thread?:confused:

[Iron-Spidey]

HOLY CWAP!








It's a super-bump! Why?

[wolfsfang]

HOLY CWAP!








It's a super-bump! Why?

That's just what I was wondering.









Also...Why are we keeping this thread alive by asking why it was broughtback to life. It would be better if we just ignored it and let it die again.

Please don't respond if you agree with this.

[calebyourmaster]

5 ****in years ago...and u bump it

[wolfsfang]

Well I didn't.

I'm just as confused as you...why was it bumped?

why did you jus bump it to complain about it being bumped?

why am i bumping it by posting this?

and to the next person who replies to this thread

WHY ARE YOU BUMPING IT?