Spider-Man 3 Discussion

[MasterRegal]

Only 11 and a half months until filming begins (January 2005). Who will be the next villian? Who will get married? What will Harry do? All the questions can be asked here and discussed here. That way, we won't have all the multiple threads on one basic topic.

Enjoy.

[spidey81489]

I heard somewhere Jake Gyllenhaal (I just learned how to pronounce it) will be the Carnage in 3. Why I don't know. Personally, I don't really like him as an actor.

[SpindelStrike]

please no carnage or venom in the 3rd film..theres no way they can do that

[howheat]

That would be amazing if this was the only thread for Spider-Man 3...shouldn't count on it though...and I've said this before, I'll say it again, don't go straight to Carnage without an entire movie for Venom if symbiotes are done at all.

[Arachnophiliac]

AGREE WITH | REGARDING

howheat............symbiote storylines
SpindelStrike.......No Carnage for SM3

DISAGREE WITH | REGARDING

spidey81489 ........Jake Gyllenhaal
SpindelStrike........No Venom for SM3

Why? (1) Trying to fit two villains into one movie is really easy to screw up. Take the last few Batman movies for example. And trying to shift to an elaborate alien symbiote storyline takes even more screentime. Having both Venom and Carnage would take mondo explanation and there would be no time for anything else in the movie. (2) Jake Gyllenhaal is a respectable actor, IMO, but you're entitled to your own. I liked him in Donnie Darko. (3) And lastly, though Carnage would be over the top, they could dicreetly weave the symbiote into the 3rd movie and introduce Venom, since they've already given Eddie Brock a tip of the hat in SM1. Maintaining continuity would be the key. If Gyllenhaal was Eddie Brock, I personally wouldn't be disappointed but that SHOULDN'T BE CONSTRUED AS A RUMOR SINCE IT IS PURE PERSONAL CONJECTURE. Just so everyone is clear, that means I just made that up off the top of my head :).

[FallenAngel14]

i agree. Carnage shouldnt be in the third movie. Venoms too big of a character too share screen time with another symbiote. The third movie should set up the symbiote story half way through with spidey having it for a fraction of the movie. probally show him using the costume against a second tier character like the lizard {this could explain Dr connors cameo}then for the second half of the movie, eddie should have it. on the subject of Jake Gyllenhall as eddie...no,it wouldnt fit.
Jake is more of a disturbed type of actor, not an angry one. For the role of eddie, someone who can eminate barely controlled anger and rage should be chosen for the role. As much as i like brock lesnar for the role, theres alot of you who dont want a wrestler asn eddie{imlooking in your direction howheat,,,lol} so i'd go with a scott speedman or the jock from "not another teen movie" { sorry i cant remember his name but hes the main character goin after janie}

[skaterboy40]

i think Carnage should be a villan in SM3 but i think he should only be a side villan to make it more interesting, and i think that Venom should be the main villan, and when they make the forth movie it should be rhino and in the fifth movie it should be mysterio.

[MasterRegal]

Wow skaterboy40, you're getting ahead of time? What makes you think there will be a forth and fifth movie?

Anyway, good to see you guys posting. For those people that who are shy and do not see a topic related to Spider-Man 3 being discussed here fell free to open up a discussion. We can sustain more than one topic at a time, right?

Anyway, happy discussion!

Spider-Man 3: Coming Summer 2006

[SpindelStrike]

OK first off you're all forgetting that peter has to have the suit FIRST. they cant just have eddie brock all of a sudden show up with it. that would be the stupidest thing ever. there really has to be a whole movie with peter with the symboite which will lead to venom later. plus there ARE so many other great villians and stroy lines they can use before the introduce the symboite. having anything with the symboite in SM3 is wayyyy to early and would really sell out spiderman just because a lot of fans think venom is the shiznit. cuz hes really not. if any symboite story line is introduce it should be in like SM 5 or 6. but i have no idea if they are even going to go past 3.

[SpindelStrike]

Originally posted by Arachnophiliac
And lastly, though Carnage would be over the top, they could dicreetly weave the symbiote into the 3rd movie and introduce Venom, since they've already given Eddie Brock a tip of the hat in SM1. Maintaining continuity would be the key.

i have to completely disagree with you on that. theres no way that could happen because peter has to have the suit first as i posted in the reply above.

[Big_Web_Fan]

They can make another good villain like the Hob Goblin or Electro and introduce the symbiote costume in the end of the movie, then in Spider-Man 4, Spider-Man can fight Venom.

Then Venom helps Spider-Man defeat Carnage in Spider-Man 5.

I don't know if they will go that far.
But, incase they do, I'll also like to see the Scorpion in the 6th movie.

[S.Pumroy]

Personally I'd love to see the Lizard in SM3. Dr.Conners gets a cameo in SM2, they could build it off of that.

[Spider-Boy425]

I Really Want Them To Do Venom or Carnage in SM3 but there's 1 problem for having Venom And Carnage, they eat people! So I Don't Think They Would Do That Cuz Then It Would Probably Be Rated R And Alot Of People Wouldn't Be Able To Watch The Movie Which Means Less Money!! OH Well. GO SPIDEY!!!!!!!!

[surfiiinsafari]

Yea i really hope that SPM 3 will not be rated R cause then my friends an i would have to see it with parents...lol thats alright but its always more fun to just chill with friends and watch a movie :D

[howheat]

I personally would like to see Peter have the black costume an entire movie where he uses it to fight a villain, but gradually begins fighting both the suit and the villain at the same time, and have the movie end with him winning over the villain and getting detached from the suit in a famous bell tower perhaps...then have Eddie Brock mozy on in there, and END, big time cliff hanger for the next movie.

[Arachnophiliac]

Originally posted by SpindelStrike
i have to completely disagree with you on that. theres no way that could happen because peter has to have the suit first as i posted in the reply above.

Firstly let me say that I said that as a condition. I am not in *absolute* favor of Venom in SM3, but I believe it is possible.

An entire movie with the black suit? The part of the audience that doesn't know the comic books will be pretty confused right until the very end (when I assume the cliffhager comes and Eddie Brock gets the suit.) And the last thing the directors want is to confuse a good portion of the audience (which is in fact the target audience; they know the tickets will sell well to those that read the books.)

And I didn't forget that PP has the suit first. Nor was I proposing Venom just show up unintroduced. Looking over the posts, nobody said or inferred that. Why can't a movie deal with Peter discovering a new array of powers, and a new villain? That's essentially the plot of SM1, after all. First half of the movie, Peter discovers the symbiote, fights some minor crime, embarrasses Eddie in the process, struggles with Mary Jane, Eddie starts concieving a plan to strike back, Peter starts to lose identity, Mary Jane is totally turned off by Peter's new attitude, Peter gets rid of suit. Second half of movie Eddie gets suit, terrorizes Peter's life with knowledge of his identity, fight scene, reconciliation with MJ. I wouldn't go into Carnage saga at all. I don't think Venom is as lame as people think; he's essentially a mirror match to Peter and would make a good story. Where Peter is about responsibility with pwoer, Eddie is about abuse of power. The story would deal with Peter's identity as Spider-man and purposefully limiting his own power to preserve what matters.

That being said, I would be perfectly happy with a Hobgoblin storyline, or to a lesser extent, an Electro storyline (although the way he beats Electro - by wearing rubber gloves and throwing sand in the way of his jolts - isn't exactly great movie fare; oh yeah, and I love how Electro's former identity ties in with Peter... not at all, he was a corrupt telephone repair man LOL).

[SpiderFan345]

Ok, let me explain my opinion though a few points:

1. These last few years many filmmakers are aiming on trilogies. This decision I can’t respect because (1) I don’t like naming a movie with two sequels as a ‘trilogy’ unless all three movies can’t stand alone as one and need the other two to continue the plot of the previous one, and (2) why can’t there be only one movie - an original idea that will go down into history? But anyway, since they are aiming at a trilogy that means they will try to make the last 3rd movie into a big hit, so that’s why Venom’s chances to be in Spider-Man 3 are increased.

2. I would very much like Venom to have his own one movie, but then again the Spidey-Fans won’t get the satisfaction from Spider-Man getting the Symbiote costume first, so chances for that are 50/50. I also once mentioned my idea of making a trilogy out of the Venom thing, after they do three separate Spider-Man movies. That Venom trilogy would be a great chance to introduce two other villains from Scorpion, Mysterio, Rhino, Shocker, the Lizard, Kraven the Hunter and many, many others. Here’s how they might do the three movies:
1) Spidey is out to fight a villain like the Lizard and the Shuttle with the Symbiote aboard crashes on New York City. Spidey arrives to save the crew and the innocent bystanders, letting the Symbiote attach on his suit. Brock can be introduced in this movie.
2) Spidey fights off a villain like Rhino with his new Black Costume. Peter feels that the Symbiote is making him more violent then ever and gets rid of it at the end of the movie and the costume passes to Brock.
3) The final Spider-Man VS Venom showdown.
Of course, a lot of plot must be inserted into those three movies, I just didn’t bother to, so not to waste that much space in this post. Still, for budget and time reasons, a trilogy like that after 3 separate Spidey movies is highly unlikely, so we might want to leave this little idea of mine out for now.

3. Now, many of those who don’t want Venom to be in SM3, like me, might think that it’s too early for him to appear, and the ones who want Venom, might feel that it’s too early but are more braver to accept him, aren’t you?
Early, yes, but didn’t the X-Men fans feel that introducing the Phoenix in X3 might be too early as well? But now that X2 went so well, we are all just dying to see that big hit, aren’t we?
So here the chances of Venom appearing in SM3 are increased even more.

And final point:
4. Just look at the cast of characters. I feet that they didn’t just put Dr. Connors and JJJ’s son in for nothing. The chances of us seeing an ending ala X2 are high enough for them to be accepted.

So don’t worry everybody. Spider-Man is in very good hands. They’ll do a great job with Spider-Man 2 and we’ll be left with a great cliffhanger, where the Lizard and Venom will be finally introduced! :cool:



PS: Carnage in Spider-Man 3!? Please!

[Rougegambit]

I believe that the Lizard will be the next baddie since Dr. Connors is already going to be in the second film

[spider-jide]

Originally posted by skaterboy40
i think Carnage should be a villan in SM3 but i think he should only be a side villan to make it more interesting, and i think that Venom should be the main villan,


ok 2 things wrong here, firstly,chances of a symbiot in any spidey movie are slim and secondly, carnage as a side villain? No way, carnage is powerful enough to take on spidey and venom together so i highly doubt having the most powerful character out of the 3 is to be made into a side villain.

[azdabronc]

IF the studio plays it smart and learns from the "Batman" mistakes,there could be spiderman 8 or even 9. It's not impossible to have two villans in a movie,if the writers get real creative with the story and explain their background in a scene or two. Look at Lord of the Rings for example, a spiderman movie can end witha cliff hanger.

[skaterboy40]

i think there will be a fourth and fifth because there are so many other villians to cover

[MasterRegal]

I understand that there are many villains, but there is a limit to a story about a "girl." And plus, how much can the audience take to seeing Harry trying to kill Spider-Man and getting no where.

They should have two villains per movie. One main villain, and one secondary villain.

[skaterboy40]

yea i guess your right, and yea there should be 2 villians per movie, when do you think mj is going to find out that peter is spiderman

[Secret Agent]

As far as the Venom stuff goes, there is too much that must happen in order to make Venom. If they do Venom in the movie, they will really need to change his orgin a bit. You could skip the entire black suit deal with Spidey, and just have the symboite feed off of Brock's anger and hatred towards Spiderman. (I wonder if they could get Brock Lesnar to do this role.)

I think I would have Eddie Brock come in contact with the symboite in the beginning, have a metor crash into his apartment with the symboite for all I care. Just get it on him. You can keep the entire Spidey cause Brock to get fired" and with the symboite fueling his rag, and giving him some powers, there is your SM3 villan.

Oh, as far as the big spider logo, and Spidey style eyes that Venom has... I'm not really sure why he would still have that going my route. Other than Brock requesting the same powers as Spider-Man, only stronger, etc. Hence the Symb. would copy the logo and eyes.

[tman]

I like just one villian. The ones they are using deserve their own time, and not to share.

I believe MJ has a good idea that Peter is Spider-man. She may receive more evidence, as in the comics she knew it long before ever telling anyone including Peter.

MJ knowing and keeping the secret to me shows she understands and respects Peter. Peter also knows her well enough that she is not the person she portrays to most people. He would never reveal anything to break her image though. IMO They actually keep each others secrets. They are each others best friend, as well as great love.

[MasterRegal]

Well in the ending of Spider-Man already showed that MJ knew that Peter was Spider-Man or at least had a good idea that it is him. And I'm pretty sure she will know in Spider-Man 2. I don't know when it will be formally introduced that MJ know that Peter is Spider-Man though.

I will love to see Venom, and I agree that it is too much of a story to put on screen, but why not make Spider-Man a three-hour movie, and put a cliffhanger at the end of part two and get right to it in part 3 and use the first 20 minutes of the story to expalin Venom, to increase the relationship with MJ and Peter, and to see Harry's hate against Spider-Man grow.

[tman]

I think we agree on MJ's knowledge. I would be happy to know for certain that MJ has confirmed the dual identity. Whether it is specified or, I just know it. At the end of the first the thought definately crossed her mind.

I do believe that when SM2 ends we will know what will happen in the third. Sam Raimi said as much 'if he makes both the second and third'. I do feel he will do his best to surprise us all though. He just seems that type of person. Singer has stated he liked, and would love to do the plot he hinted at in X2, along with 'Sentinels'. Sam is sneakier though. I do hope to be surprised, hopefully Sam made a deal with Peter David to allow for surprises. I will be reading the novellization starting May 25th. Then I will mum myself on speculations till the movie opens.

[Mo200482]

Mj know peter is is sm because at the end of sm1 she kiss him then she touch her lips then she knows that why in the sm2 she aks him to kiss her too see if peter is really sm ;) :D

[MasterRegal]

I know it is early, but does anyone have a list of rumors or possible spoilers?

[tman]

Only think for SM3 is the report Sam Raimi said a definate clue will be found in SM2 for the villian in SM3.

That is still a report, but it has sparked a lot of speculation. Someone even added this thread to take over for all the speculation:)

[christhn]

Does anyone else think Jake Gyllenhaal kind of looks like Tobey Maguire? Having them both in the same movie would be weird...

[SpiderFan345]

Hey, it just struck me:
What if Sam wants to surprise us BIG TIME?
What if at the end of SM2 we will see all three of the possible villains appear - The Lizard, Venom and HobGoblin (Harry)?
That would be fantastic!
They could make Peter's narration into something similar like: "I feel something big is going to happen soon...and it’s not good."
Of course, I'm not saying that all three villains may be in SM3. They could just use two of them in a three hour movie, like Venom and the Lizard and then hint on HobGoblin near then end for SM4.

And Secret Agent, I somewhat I agree with you but I rather prefer Peter to get the Symbiote first. Just so his Spider-Sense does not react to Venom when he's near by. That would make a lot of surprising moments where Venom could attack Spidey unprepared.

[merry2004]

I really don't know what will happen. Guess we'll have to wait and find out when we see the movie.

[spiderkrissser]

The simbiote wont be used, definitly not in S-M 3. Way to much story would go to waste. Raimi wants to stay true to the comics, we all know that, therefor he wont do it all in one movie, it can't be done! If so, I´ve lost my respect for the man. First of all Pete gets it first right. Then Eddie as Venom, before you can even begin to develope carnage. My opinion is, let it be.....for now! They should do a trilogy later on, only about the black suit and its "child". That would be cool. It´s a great story, and it should be done the right way. They can´t blend it all into one movie. They could make a kick-a*ss trilogy if they really wanted to, but dont they dare to change anything about the story, cause then I´ll be really pissed.
If you ask me, I´m 90% sure that the Lizard is next to get his butt kicked!
He´s nothing like the first two villains, therefor he would be a perfect choice. And to top it all of he just happens to be a part of Spider-Man 2! (Doctor Connors I mean)

[tman]

You should avoid the 90's version of the cartoon. The whole story was done in less than an hour, if you skip the commercials.:)

[howheat]

Yeah tman is right about the cartoon, it's done very quickly, whereas in the comics Peter had the alien costume for years.

[Spider-Fan2004]

I agree with howheat, they NEED to do a FULL movie with venom before they bring in Carnage and then the others as well. I also agree with spindelstrike that the CG would be extremely difficult. I think the job should be handed to SquareEnix (Final Fantasy). I think they they could pull off the best Venom that is possible for current day technology. Arachnophiliac I think we might be sharing a brain! I agree with everything you wrote. And Donnie Darko shows that Jake Gyllenhaal (gel N hall) is the perfect pyscho to play Carnage! And if any of you have not seen Donnie Darko it is a must see twisted movie. Although I can't think of a single actor to play the Flash Thompson sized Eddy Brock. What large male actor could play the awesome power of Venom in human form? Scott Speedman is a great idea FallenAngel14. Please stop saying Brock Lesnar. That guy is WAY to big to play the HUMAN form of Eddy Brock. spindelstrike makes a good point that Peter needs to have the suit for a while to have it play into Eddy Brocks hands. But if they give it to Peter in SP2 and he ditches it early enough in SP3 Eddy could pick it up and before SP3 ends it's VENOM!!! Sorry it's the fanboy in me, I'm part symboite too. Spider-Boy425 makes the best point so far. The Venom that we all love in the violent and destructive pyscho that wants to eat Spider-Mans brains. Now does that sound like a PG-13 to any of you? If they sell out on Venom I would rather not see him in a PG-13 movie. SpiderFan345 is on to something with the fact that JJJ's son is an astronaut and is in the much anticipated SP2. And yes Dr. Conners aka the Lizard is in more than a cameo for SP2. Hey Secret Agent they (Sam Rami and crew) need to stick to what sold the comic in the first place. And how did you think the symbiote would get Spider-Mans powers to give to Eddy? And a metor crash into his apartment!?! What are you on man?

To sum it up, Venom will be the main focus for SP3, in my opinion!

[spiderkrissser]

Originally posted by howheat
Yeah tman is right about the cartoon, it's done very quickly, whereas in the comics Peter had the alien costume for years.
My point exactly!
They should do a trilogy later on, ONLY about the black suit, it´s such a great story which would propably be some what darker then all the others.
It could be a huge sucess, besides it whould be something original that has never been seen before. I´m talking about the fact that no one has never made 3 single movies to thereafter be followed by a real trilogy. That would be soooo freakin' cool! :D

[Spider-Fan2004]

Originally posted by spiderkrissser
My point exactly!
They should do a trilogy later on, ONLY about the black suit, it´s such a great story which would propably be some what darker then all the others.
It could be a huge sucess, besides it whould be something original that has never been seen before. I´m talking about the fact that no one has never made 3 single movies to thereafter be followed by a real trilogy. That would be soooo freakin' cool! :D

AMEN to that!!!! I'm on board for this idea!!! This would be the coolest thing ever to date!!!!

[SpiderFan345]

Originally posted by spiderkrissser
My point exactly!
They should do a trilogy later on, ONLY about the black suit, it´s such a great story which would propably be some what darker then all the others.
It could be a huge sucess, besides it whould be something original that has never been seen before. I´m talking about the fact that no one has never made 3 single movies to thereafter be followed by a real trilogy. That would be soooo freakin' cool! :D Hey, you said that before to my Venom Trilogy idea...was it you?
And come on, it was a TV show, which had to stick to one Spider-Man look only. And I'm sure that Sam would lose a significant part of the audience if they do a trilogy ONLY about the Black Costume. The ones who do not know Spidey so well will ask: "So what's the thing with the strange black living costume thing? What is this all leading to?"
Besides, making a trilogy ONLY about the Black Costume will be a waste of money since they won't wrap it up at the end of the 3rd movie, with which they will just HAVE to follow with the Venom story, and which again will be a complete waste of money.
So, if they want to do a Venom trilogy, they better sick with my idea (because I'm so great :cool: ).

[spiderkrissser]

Originally posted by SpiderFan345
Hey, you said that before to my Venom Trilogy idea...was it you?
And come on, it was a TV show, which had to stick to one Spider-Man look only. And I'm sure that Sam would lose a significant part of the audience if they do a trilogy ONLY about the Black Costume. The ones who do not know Spidey so well will ask: "So what's the thing with the strange black living costume thing? What is this all leading to?"
Besides, making a trilogy ONLY about the Black Costume will be a waste of money since they won't wrap it up at the end of the 3rd movie, with which they will just HAVE to follow with the Venom story, and which again will be a complete waste of money.
So, if they want to do a Venom trilogy, they better sick with my idea (because I'm so great :cool: ).
Yep, that was me!:D
I'm with you on that!

[Arachnophiliac]

Originally posted by howheat
Yeah tman is right about the cartoon, it's done very quickly, whereas in the comics Peter had the alien costume for years.

I don't see how this makes that big of a difference. The first movie took place over the course of years (high school through early college.) And in the comics it was years before Spider-man and Green Goblin had their final face-off. Since you guys are the fans and feel so adamantly about it, I'll concede that the filmmakers should try to please you by giving you what you want, which is apparently an alien costume trilogy. But they will also lose a lot of the mainstream (read: non-comic-book-reading) crowd by having three whole movies where Spider-man is not wearing what is internationally recognized as the Spider-man costume (not everybody has heard of Venom or alien symbiotes). Thus they would lose quite a bit of money from a audience whose majority has been confused. Anyways, I say it could be done in one, you guys seem to think its three. I personally and sincerely hope you guys are pleased with what they do.

[tman]

Originally posted by spiderkrissser
My point exactly!
They should do a trilogy later on, ONLY about the black suit, it´s such a great story which would propably be some what darker then all the others.
It could be a huge sucess, besides it whould be something original that has never been seen before. I´m talking about the fact that no one has never made 3 single movies to thereafter be followed by a real trilogy. That would be soooo freakin' cool! :D

Star Wars, Star Wars:The Empire Strikes Back, Star Wars:Return of the Jedi.

Star Wars:Episode I, Star Wars:Episode II, Star Wars:Episode III. :)

[Jason Martell]

Originally posted by azdabronc
IF the studio plays it smart and learns from the "Batman" mistakes,there could be spiderman 8 or even 9. It's not impossible to have two villans in a movie,if the writers get real creative with the story and explain their background in a scene or two. Look at Lord of the Rings for example, a spiderman movie can end witha cliff hanger.
I agree with this guy. biggest evidence he's right? The most successful comic book movie ever S-M is by coincedendtly the one closest to the original story. The Batman movie franchise is laughed at and by coincedence far from the original story! Stick to the original plot and the struggles Peter has balancing both lives. Have lots of action and emotion, make them good and you can have 8 or 9 awesome movies, you might even be able to pull off the clone saga as the final movie, but be sure to peter end up being human with Ben as the clone. don't get all kiddish and colorful like batman 3 and 4, don't always kill the bad guy!

[Jason Martell]

Originally posted by tman
Star Wars, Star Wars:The Empire Strikes Back, Star Wars:Return of the Jedi.

Star Wars:Episode I, Star Wars:Episode II, Star Wars:Episode III. :)
Idea? Have part three be Lizard, and part 4 the black costume. plot for part 4! have ten minutes in beginning to explain Spidey went to help x-men in outer space while finding black costume. then back to earth, where movie begins.Spidey battles hulk who is controlled by evil scientist wins, then when black costume takes over spiderman. then hulk has to stop spider-man. then in part five or later go into the venom carnage era, keep maximum carnage series in mind!

[Jason Martell]

Originally posted by Arachnophiliac
I don't see how this makes that big of a difference. The first movie took place over the course of years (high school through early college.) And in the comics it was years before Spider-man and Green Goblin had their final face-off. Since you guys are the fans and feel so adamantly about it, I'll concede that the filmmakers should try to please you by giving you what you want, which is apparently an alien costume trilogy. But they will also lose a lot of the mainstream (read: non-comic-book-reading) crowd by having three whole movies where Spider-man is not wearing what is internationally recognized as the Spider-man costume (not everybody has heard of Venom or alien symbiotes). Thus they would lose quite a bit of money from a audience whose majority has been confused. Anyways, I say it could be done in one, you guys seem to think its three. I personally and sincerely hope you guys are pleased with what they do.
AGREED. One movie only where he wears black costume. have him battle hulk please!!!!

[Jason Martell]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jason Martell
[B]Idea? Have part three be Lizard, and part 4 the black costume. plot for part 4! have ten minutes in beginning to explain Spidey went to help x-men in outer space while finding black costume. then back to earth, where movie begins.Spidey battles hulk who is controlled by evil scientist wins, then when black costume takes over spiderman. then hulk has to stop spider-man. then in part five or later go into the venom carnage era, keep maximum carnage series in mind! so everyone knows this is Jason Martell's idea at 716 P.O. Box 118 54139 Lena, Wisconsin

[Jason Martell]

Originally posted by spiderkrissser
The simbiote wont be used, definitly not in S-M 3. Way to much story would go to waste. Raimi wants to stay true to the comics, we all know that, therefor he wont do it all in one movie, it can't be done! If so, I´ve lost my respect for the man. First of all Pete gets it first right. Then Eddie as Venom, before you can even begin to develope carnage. My opinion is, let it be.....for now! They should do a trilogy later on, only about the black suit and its "child". That would be cool. It´s a great story, and it should be done the right way. They can´t blend it all into one movie. They could make a kick-a*ss trilogy if they really wanted to, but dont they dare to change anything about the story, cause then I´ll be really pissed.
If you ask me, I´m 90% sure that the Lizard is next to get his butt kicked!
He´s nothing like the first two villains, therefor he would be a perfect choice. And to top it all of he just happens to be a part of Spider-Man 2! (Doctor Connors I mean) If they do a symbiote trilogy it should be done like this, you got to stay true to the story but only to a degree, movies don't have the luxury of telling a story in a soap opera style, it's got to be done with one big 2 hour punch or it will be corny. Have one movie with black spidey vers the hulk, then venom movie then carnage movie, maybe just maybe even have spidey save venom's wife so venom realizes that killing spidey is wrong and then helps spidey take on carnage!Just like Maximum Carnage series.Never do a Kraven movie or sinister 6, it was awesome for book but it would be corny movie. Give Stan Lee a tiny role like a cop with a minute of screen time with 1 or 2 lines.

[Jason Martell]

you know what i want to know. Where was the irony in spider-man 1 where flash thompson picks on Peter every day and then idolizes spiderman. I thought that was so neat in the comic book. And instead of mary jane it SHOULD HAVE BEEN GWEN STACY. And she should have died at end of movie by goblin's hands, it would have contibuted to the audience relating to Peter. he finally gets the love of his life only to have green goblin take her away. then in last scene of movie where peter narrates he says I'll never wear the webs again. but then of course he does when part two comes out. too late I guess, if only.
PS. that would have helped down road for clone saga. real dramatic if it was the last movie you made say part 8 or 9. thought up by Jason Martell 716 P.O. box 118 54139 lena, WI.

[Jason Martell]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jason Martell
[B]you know what i want to know. Where was the irony in spider-man 1 where flash thompson picks on Peter every day and then idolizes spiderman. I thought that was so neat in the comic book. And instead of mary jane it SHOULD HAVE BEEN GWEN STACY. And she should have died at end of movie by goblin's hands, it would have contibuted to the audience relating to Peter. he finally gets the love of his life only to have green goblin take her away. then in last scene of movie where peter narrates he says I'll never wear the webs again. but then of course he does when part two comes out. too late I guess, if only.
PS. that would have helped down road for clone saga. real dramatic if it was the last movie you made say part 8 or 9. thought up by Jason Martell 716 P.O. box 118 54139 lena, WI. curious what people think of my idea? please reply to it.

[Jason Martell]

tobey maguire was perfect dorky teenage spidey, but later on spidey get coller looking with long hair. I don't think tobey will be able to pull off cool looking spidey. I think Leo De****io would have made good dork spidey and cooler spidey. If 8 or 9 is clone saga include Kaine's role, jackyl obviously being doctor warren, Gwen Stacy clone, and Spider-Cide! maybe have ben show up, then peter ends up finding out he's a clone from test done by scientist friend, can't remember his name, then harrry osborn show up laughing about his plan, but spidey doesn't know he's in the picture, and audience not quite sure what the deal is either, then it comes out green goblin(Harry) is involved scientist friend was controlled clone to trick peter into thinking he's a clone. or cliff hanger for two part movie clone saga, audience think's hes clone with aunt may dead and everything, and show green goblin wathing over peter about to kill himself at spidercides hands while goblin laughs his plan is working perfectly, and have that be goblins first appearance in movie. you might need gwen in part three to die at norman's hands in order to pull this off later. or instead of bringing back dead gwen have mary jane get cloned, because warren's obsessed with her. maybe peter sleeps with her gets hickey and mary jane thinks he's cheating. Have in end peter find out truth he is real bad guys all beat up, warren dead, and aunt may never died, he watched a clone of her die. and scarlet spider die. include every clone character to make movie better, think be great two part movie, some reply curious what ya think, once again Jason Martell's brilliant spidey ideas, I need a life, as do most comic book fans!!!!!

[Jason Martell]

I hear rumor flash was gonna be venom, that would suck, stick with Brock, don't change story too much, Im warning you, you'll kill the franchise, learn from the BAT!

[Arachnophiliac]

Jason, next time you post try to consolidate all of your ideas into one post rather than 9 consecutive posts, please. I realize you just got on the boards and you're excited, but it's right and proper that you post and then wait for a reply.

I'm glad you agree that the black costume could be done in one movie, and it's interesting that you mention having the Secret Wars involved. Knowing the way the comic movie industry is going, it's possible they could do the Secret Wars in a separate movie as a Spider-man/X-men crossover, although I don't know how they would realistically keep continuity.

In fact, continuity is the one word that keeps coming into my mind with all the suggestions for Spider-man sequels that people keep offering. How do you people plan on holding an audience's attention span with three disjunct movies about an alien costume? Especially when the whole point of it all only comes in the last movie. To have a trilogy you need to have foreshadowing to the last movie and a plot that constitutes a journey or development (i.e. "Frodo sets out to destroy the ring", NOT "Spider-man gets a black costume, uses it to kick random butt in two movies and then finally in the third movie, someone esle accidentally gets the costume and Spider-man must defeat him.")

I understand the importance of keeping true to the comic books as much as anyone, but the truth is that certain things work in comics that don't work in movies, and vice-versa. Having Gwen Stacy in the movie and having her die would have depressed the absolute stinking *HELL* out of everyone that went to see it. Not just in a wow, this is intense sort of way. When something like that happens in a movie, especially in the quirky, wise-cracking Spider-man movie, people would be left feeling cheated out of their money's worth.

One thing that was critical to Spider-man's success was its good script. Now I hear talk about how people want movies with 90% more action. Look, kiddos, a great italian director once said, "You can have-a the good actors, you can have-a the especial-a 'fects, but you gotta no script, you gotta nothing." And it's true.

Which is why the clone saga also won't be used. It's WAY WAY out there as far as storylines go. It has nothing to do with the current "power and responsibility" theme, and people who haven't read the comics will think the writers were on crack cocaine. It just doesn't work in the movies (not that I think it worked in the comics either; I think the clone saga is one of the reasons they felt they needed to restart the Spider-man universe with Ultimate Spider-man.)

Anyways the point I'm getting at is that we obviously don't know much about the 3rd, 4th, or whatever movies, but like-it-or-lump-it, it's a good bet that all the following will be true about any Spider-man sequels:

1.) Peter will continue to be in love with MJ. No hickeys, thank God in heaven.
2.) As long as Raimi helms the project there will be no Deus-ex-Machinae like clone sagas or Secret Wars. He's taking the Spidey universe slowly and at face-value. If you don't like the base-line of Spider-man ("Science nerd in love with the pretty girl becomes everybody's favorite wise-cracking, wall-crawling superhero and learns that with great power comes great responsibility"), then I fear the current movies will disappoint you. To wish that the movies depart from this rather simple storyline is to wish them to the same fate as Batman : an incohesive, repetitive pile of suckage.
3.) The Lizard *will* probably be introduced, since Doc Connors is confirmed as being in the next movie.
4.) No news on Venom. His alter ego was mentioned in the first movie, so I very much doubt he will be Flash. Also, they may introduce the symbiote via John Jameson's space career, although that is a rumor that is equally unfounded, AFAIK.

However, I agree that they should bring Flash back and show how much he admires Spider-man even though he despised Peter in high school. In the comics, he later became a gym teacher, and a respectable, responsible guy as I recall. That would be cool if in one of the future movies, where Peter becomes a teacher, he meets up with Flash again or something.

Sorry for the long post, but please remember, the movies are for everyone, and while it's fun to speculate, we should all try and keep it within reason.

Have a good one. ;)

[Spider-Fan2004]

I don't think that the "Death of Gwen Stacy" will play into the Spider-Man movies. This is due to the fact that they want the movies to be PG-13 so large age varing audiences can enjoy the movie with out getting Mom, Dad, and/or the older sibling to take them to see a rated R movie due to the death of a character in a non-accidental method.

As for the Venom sega being played out as a trilogy. I think a trilogy would be cool but to carried out. I think it would be best pulled off in the end half or last quarter of SP2 that Peter gets the Symboite suit leaving a big cliffhanger. Then in the beging of SP3 kick off Spidy ditching the symboite and Eddy coming across it and BAM instant VENOM!!!:D And that way depending on how much "time" passes between the end of SP2 and the begining of SP3 you could do just a whole movie taking place inbetween SP2 and SP3 With Peter having the Symboite with him the whole time.

Needless to say but I think the fans require a Venomous Villian for SP3. 'Nuff said!:cool:

The Newbie LOL

[webslinger_14]

I want to see a symbiote in SM3, not the green goblin again! Wizard comics magazine said that Harry finds the goblin lair at the end of #2!

[Spider-Fan2004]

Originally posted by webslinger_14
I want to see a symbiote in SM3, not the green goblin again! Wizard comics magazine said that Harry finds the goblin lair at the end of #2!

Hopefully Wizard is just starting malicious rumors. I don't want to have to start another angry mob again. It's such a hassle.:|

[howheat]

I don't know about making an entire trilogy about the black suit, but it would be cool to see something like this (if it were to be done at all mind you): Spider-Man gets the black suit somehow in the beginning of one movie, realizes the power of it and uses it throughout the movie, then realizes it's not right all while fighting against the main villain for the movie, leaving Spider-Man at battle against two villains (main baddie, and suit) in a way. Finally he defeats said main villain, and gets free of the suit, which then finds Eddie Brock who has been in conflict with Spider-Man already, end movie...next movie be about Venom. Just a thought.

[MasterRegal]

Look at that we already cut a trilogy down to just two movies. I like your idea, and I will love to see Venom on screen, but I don't think Raimi will go for two movies to explain one character. Maybe we could cut it down to one movie. It could be 2 1/2 hours or 3 hours long. Anyone has any ideas on cutting it down to just one movie in a way that will entertain the audience and keep them awake?

You guys have a lot of hope for a forth or fith movie. I would prefer if ther is just three. My opinion.

[Spider-Fan2004]

Originally posted by Spider-Fan2004
I think it would be best pulled off in the end half or last quarter of SP2 that Peter gets the Symboite suit leaving a big cliffhanger. Then in the beging of SP3 kick off Spidy ditching the symboite and Eddy coming across it and BAM instant VENOM!

I had it cut down to a movie and a half! This is how I see it:

Spider-Man 2 Doc Oc and Spidy battle it out while Dr Conners is finding a way to harness the regenrating powers of reptiles to grow his lost arm back. And not to mention that JJJ's son is going on a mission to deep space! After Spidy final captures Doc Oc he goes to see his old friend and ex-boss Dr Conners only to find the lab torn to shreads and now he see's a TV turned on it's side with an emergency news report of the Shuttle mission gone terribly wrong. The shuttle is destine to crash into Central Park, New York in less than an hour! Peter rushes to Central Park to see if their is anything he can do to save the people of New York. The Spider-Man saves the Crash from being worse then it would have been if he were not there. The Symboite senses peters powers and having barely survived the trip to Earth it askes if Peter will help it other wise it will die. Peter agrees to help it and they become one. And elsewhere the Lizard is looking though the window of his ex-wifes house at his son on his 6th birthday. The Lizard only wanted to hold his son in his own two arms and now he has become some sort of abomination. Lizard gets angry and lashes out starting to destroy the neiborhood in his rage. The police are unable to detain Lizard. With Spidy's new increased power his spider sense picks up Lizards warpath. The hero swings into action defeats Lizard. Fin.

On to Spider-Man 3. I will continue tomorrow.;)

[tman]

As far as the clone saga.

I am extremely thankful, Ralph Macchio (yes the Karate Kid) put an end to it. Ralph Macchio is also currently editor of the Ultimate line for Marvel. Please consider that before flaming me.

Thankfully the saga was done away with. MJ and Aunt may are back. Peter Parker is the real Spider-man. Although the clone saga was hard for Marvel to get away from, it could have been worse. You can check out the following link, if you cannot find the actual comic:

Spider-Man: 101 Ways To End The Clone Saga (http://www.spiderfan.org/comics/reviews/101_ends_to_clones.html)

i will end this rant now.:)

[webslinger107]

In spider-man 2 m.j marries mr. jamesons son who is an astronaut any body think its possile he comes back from a space mission where he finds a symbiote.....my theory is Eddie Brock is spying on him for a story an steals the symbiote at the end an right before the credits roll Eddie would be in a alley then the camera starts going up still focused on the alley where you hear a scream,then a hideous laugh.

[SpiderFan345]

Originally posted by webslinger107
In spider-man 2 m.j marries mr. jamesons son who is an astronaut any body think its possile he comes back from a space mission where he finds a symbiote.....my theory is Eddie Brock is spying on him for a story an steals the symbiote at the end an right before the credits roll Eddie would be in a alley then the camera starts going up still focused on the alley where you hear a scream,then a hideous laugh. Lol, check your spelling next time.

[eddide_brock]

I really really really dont think that carnage should be in 3, sure he is prolly the strongest symbiote, but Venom is the Best villian for Spider-man, i mean he has aLL THE SAME POWERS, but they are stronger than spidy, so i think that is just should be venom in SM3,:)

[spunkmeyer3]

Been skimming thru past few pages on this,
Definitly keep carnage out, & brock as venom. If done correctly Venom will werk.
Also in first movie, remember there was a very quick refernce to "Eddie" by JJJ when discussing lack of photos of Spider-Man (Julia Robert's in a thong..), leads me to believe Venom is somewhere in the mix for a screen appearnce

[sam_298]

I think that Venom and Carnage wouldn't be good enough for SM3. The reason: all the spiderman movies have some reality. eg. In SM1- the story can relate to reality cause someone could go mad and threaten NYC with an army glider ;) . In SM2- its possible for some scientist to get 4 extra mechanical arms and legs(if their really smart) and go evil and destroy NYC. But if they choose Venom or Carnage or both for Sm3- very little reality at all :( The reason? well cause noone has really any discovered life on other planets have they? So thats why i think they shouldn't pick VENOM or CARNAGE for SM3.
Sam_298

[surfiiinsafari]

yea i agree with sam_298 it just streaches reality to far for the movie

[Howard the Duck]

They do hint Eddie in the first movie.
But I think 3 will be all Lizard.

[Arachnophiliac]

Originally posted by sam_298
I think that Venom and Carnage wouldn't be good enough for SM3. The reason: all the spiderman movies have some reality. eg. In SM1- the story can relate to reality cause someone could go mad and threaten NYC with an army glider ;) . In SM2- its possible for some scientist to get 4 extra mechanical arms and legs(if their really smart) and go evil and destroy NYC. But if they choose Venom or Carnage or both for Sm3- very little reality at all :( The reason? well cause noone has really any discovered life on other planets have they? So thats why i think they shouldn't pick VENOM or CARNAGE for SM3.
Sam_298

An alien symbiote would hardly be the most implausible element of the story, seeing as getting bitten by a radioactive spider would only lead to radioactive spider poisoning. In real life, Peter would have been a fool not to seek professional help for getting bitten by a genetically optimized spider, especially with that enormous glowing welt on his hand.

Also, scientists (in reality) have discovered fossilized bacteria on space rocks, proof of life (albeit dead remnants of life) in space. So if we were to encounter alien life forms, scientific experience dictates that it would most likely be in the form of a gooey amoeba like the symbiote.

Other than that, I sort of see your point. Basically, you're saying that so far all we've seen is freak accidents turning smart people into superhumans, and you're right. To have a dumb guy bond with an alien would be a complete departure from the norm. But I still think they could pull it off (especially if it was directed by Raimi, I used to think he was doofy because of Hercules and Xena, but now I have respect for his storytelling capacity.) What they would need to solidify its place in the SM movie series is to play up the symbiote as a scientific discovery and play down the whole random alien who snuck onto Spider-man thing. They almost certainly wouldn't be able to do the Secret Wars, so it would have to be the whole space ship story.

They played down the random, unexplained origins story in Spider-man 1 as well, with the whole radioactive spider thing. In the comics, the spider kind of randomly lands in the beam of a radioactive ray, and proceeds to randomly bite Peter. In order to make the plot slightly more believable, it was altered so that the whole spider thing looked much more intentional by making the spiders themselves the subjects of scientific analysis. If they cut out all the random parts with the symbiote and have Peter come by it as a natural part of the story, we would believe it a lot more readily and it wouldn't seem so out of place.

[webslinger107]

I THINK WHOEVER THIKS VENOM OR CARNAGE ISNT GOOD ENOUGH FOR ANY SPIDEY MOVIE IS CRAZY THEY ARE BY FAR THE BEST VILLIANS EVER,AN I THINK THEY COULD MAKE THEM LOOK COOL.(BY THE WAY THE LIZARD WOULD LOOK COOL IF HE LOOKED LIKE A GREEN RAPTOR FROM THE JURASSIC PARK SERIES.)

[irish8]

Originally posted by sam_298
I think that Venom and Carnage wouldn't be good enough for SM3. The reason: all the spiderman movies have some reality. eg. In SM1- the story can relate to reality cause someone could go mad and threaten NYC with an army glider ;) . In SM2- its possible for some scientist to get 4 extra mechanical arms and legs(if their really smart) and go evil and destroy NYC. But if they choose Venom or Carnage or both for Sm3- very little reality at all :( The reason? well cause noone has really any discovered life on other planets have they? So thats why i think they shouldn't pick VENOM or CARNAGE for SM3.
Sam_298


i semi agree with you... ya making venom and carnage int he same movie would be quite the mistake but building up to them in S2 makes it all worth while... makes it right and doesnt make it seem like it just doesnt fit, or wut ever... but its true.. if they were to make venom in S3 then they should only have venom... a story with him would be a story of its own...

[PeterFan87]

IF the studio plays it smart and learns from the "Batman" mistakes,there could be spiderman 8 or even 9.

Agree'd.. I personally hope they stop with the 3rd film unless they can get Sam and the orginal cast back for a 4th one.

[skaterboy40]

thats alot of spider-man movies, but i would watch them, man i wish it was july already

[superkless]

People, SM2 should not be considered a sequel, and if they make a 3rd, it would not be a trilogy. These movies are based off of a comic book series so likewise they are just an ongoing story, series, or a saga. When the movies are over, SM is not gonna die or anything. His story goes on and on. The movies just capture small points of his adventures.

[Spider-Fan2004]

Originally posted by superkless
People, SM2 should not be considered a sequel, and if they make a 3rd, it would not be a trilogy. These movies are based off of a comic book series so likewise they are just an ongoing story, series, or a saga. When the movies are over, SM is not gonna die or anything. His story goes on and on. The movies just capture small points of his adventures.

I could not have said it better if I tried. Listen to SuperKless, NOT A TRILOGY people. Spider-Man may as well be immortal because someday when I have kids they will be enjoying the new Spider-Man movies, cartoons, and comics!!!

[howheat]

Spider-Fan2004, I hope you're right. That's definitely an encouraging thought.

[tman]

Originally posted by superkless
People, SM2 should not be considered a sequel, and if they make a 3rd, it would not be a trilogy. These movies are based off of a comic book series so likewise they are just an ongoing story, series, or a saga. When the movies are over, SM is not gonna die or anything. His story goes on and on. The movies just capture small points of his adventures.

Actually it is a sequel, hence the 2 in the title. Although a third would also be a sequel (as in sequential movies of same continuing theme). On the trilogy, I believe you are correct. A trilogy would be a pre planned 3 movies tell one story, and ends at the third. Star Wars chapters 1,2, and 3 would qualify. As would Star Wars 4,5, and 6(first filmed). Not to forget LOTR.

Welcome to the boards superkless.

[Spider-Fan2004]

I was just think to myself, self what do you think they (Sam Rami and Co.) plan to do with Lizard in the following sequels? The way I see it they will have the one armed Dr. Conners find his solution to regenation thourgh experiments with lizards in SM2. I HOPE that he will have transformation in SM2 but I doubt it at the same time. To Sam Rami after the credits for SM2 it would be really cool to show Dr. Conners transform into The Lizard if he doesn't do it before the end of the movie. But that would make The Lizard a variable for SM3. (Not saying that Venom or Lizard are definitely in SM3) but having The Lizard and Venom in the same movie would be so excellent I would just **** my pants for weeks!!! Although I would be a little disappointed to see Venom have to share the Big Screen with another villian. Anybody have any idea's what they plan to do with The Lizard?:confused:

[tjtolosa]

Marvel has stated that they are wanting to develop several "James Bond-like" franchises, which, to me, means several movies. :) I think it would be a safe bet that Spider-Man and X-Men would be 2 of those franchises.

[MasterRegal]

I will love to see Lizard or Venom on the big screen. Any character that is a challenge to create or any of those classic amazing villains, I would love to have.

If Spider-Man is going to be like a James Bond franchise, I could see big money making, but what about stories? Are they going to do 2-5 movie arcs, just like the comics? That would be interesting, but I would have a big problem seeing other actors play Spider-Man and M.J. and every other character in the story. I just can't stand seeing another actor playing a character that was played by a different actor, if you know what I mean.

[the_guardian_7]

who here agrees

[MasterRegal]

You know, I will love to see Spider-Man and the black suite. It will look really good if the suite is designed right and will give the story a new direction and add history and knowledge to those people that watch the Spider-Man movies but know nothing about Spider-Man.

How will the suite look on screen though. I don't think it should look like the material of the current spider suite. Maybe make it look a bit more glossy. But wearing a black suite is going to be hard for filming night fights.

[masterchief5000]

This is just my opinion and I know most of you will disagree but I really don't think they should make an infinite series of sequels, it'll become old news fast, and might as well be a TV show. They should just end it at 3. Did they even officially announce there was going to be 3? Sorry, not been keeping up ;)

[Spider-Fan2004]

Yes masterchief5000 they do have Tobey and Kirsten signed to do 3 movies. They can sign for more after that to though. I would be a dissapointed spider-fan if they did what the Batman movies did switching the actors to play Bruce Wayne/Batman. I do hope that Tobey and Kirsten stay with it as long as they can pull off the character. This is one fan that would like to see alot more Spider-Man movies over the years to come.:D

[masterchief5000]

Yeah, I know what you mean, SpiderFan2004, I certainly hope they make another one, but perhaps what I'm hoping for is that SM2 will be climactic, so that it won't feel like the TV series. Yeah, that's it:D

Oh yeah, and with Sam Raimi directing you don't have to worry 'bout it turning into the Batman saga.

[MasterRegal]

Most of us want to see many Spider-Man movies, but I think we should settle for three. I can't stand to see a Series of 5, 6, or 7 movies, yet alone 20 like James Bond. Somes sagas can pull it off like James Bond and Star Wars, but that is a whole different case. I think in 2006 we should see the last Spider-Man movie, and see the comics revamped to keep everything going smoothly and exciting in the Spider world.

I'm sure that if we see more than three movies, Spider-Man will be one of the most successful saga of all time. But I hope we only see three. Four tops, but even that is pushing it.

[webslinger107]

Originally posted by MasterRegal
Most of us want to see many Spider-Man movies, but I think we should settle for three. I can't stand to see a Series of 5, 6, or 7 movies, yet alone 20 like James Bond. Somes sagas can pull it off like James Bond and Star Wars, but that is a whole different case. I think in 2006 we should see the last Spider-Man movie, and see the comics revamped to keep everything going smoothly and exciting in the Spider world.

I'm sure that if we see more than three movies, Spider-Man will be one of the most successful saga of all time. But I hope we only see three. Four tops, but even that is pushing it.
Well im gonaa have to disagree with you on that star wars has made 5 movies workin on the sixth an rumors r goin roun that george lucas is makin 7 8 an 9 hell i wouldnt care if he made 20 or 30 movies!star wars is a very succseful series an they can pull of as many of them as they want i would see an own all of them an i think that goes with spidey i would be real p!$$#d
if the stopped at a 3rd movie sam raimi can make a movie for every villian each would be better an better an better like the energizer bunny i hope spidey films keep going an going an going........:D :D

[webslinger107]

Originally posted by SpiderFan345
Lol, check your spelling next time.
oh an to your little past post i see nothing wrong with it an i wouldnt see any thing even if there was a mistake im not the type of guy that laughs at others mistakes

[Spider-Fan2004]

In my opinion, I have to respectably disagree with you MasterRegal. I feel that Supermans movies and TV shows have always done well. This makes me think that Spider-Mans success will surpass the Superman legacy GREATLY. No offense to Superman fans, I'm one myself, Smallville Wednesday tonight! I personally foresee Spider-Man movies going a long way, and I hope that they never stop! But thats all up the guys with the rights and the money. And I'm with you Webslinger107. All us fan can generate more than enough revenue to keep franchises like Star Wars booming. We're the ones that line up days in advance to see the greatness that they make just for our enjoyment!

[webslinger107]

Originally posted by Spider-Fan2004
In my opinion, I have to respectably disagree with you MasterRegal. I feel that Supermans movies and TV shows have always done well. This makes me think that Spider-Mans success will surpass the Superman legacy GREATLY. No offense to Superman fans, I'm one myself, Smallville Wednesday tonight! I personally foresee Spider-Man movies going a long way, and I hope that they never stop! But thats all up the guys with the rights and the money. And I'm with you Webslinger107. All us fan can generate more than enough revenue to keep franchises like Star Wars booming. We're the ones that line up days in advance to see the greatness that they make just for our enjoyment!
your very write its the fans that keep movies an awesome shows like smallville(only half hour to go:D :D )on we are the deciders of the fate for instance if spidey 1 $#(KED they probably wouldnt have made spidey 2.;)

[Spider-Fan2004]

Yes, Webslinger107 it's because of you and me and millions of fans that movies can make $400,000,000.00!!!! Because we see it 3 or 4 times on opening week and then another 6 times when it's still in theaters! Although I just can't explain Titanic?!?!?! I say us fans make Spider-Man 2 the world highest grossing film!

[webslinger107]

lol yes titanic $#(KED lol. An half maybe more than half of the people on this board will bring spidey to the top of the charts :) we are the people that made tobey an sam raimi all that **** money but they sure as he!! diserevd it :D :D :D

[MasterRegal]

First of all don't make me seem like I think Star Wars can't survive on more than 6 plus movies. (I am a Star Wars fan)

Second, I think Spider-Man can make it to as much movies as it can handle, I never said it can't. Spider-Man is one of the most recognizable comic characters out there, there is a huge audience. I just stated my opinion on what I would like to see. I don't like seeing 5-20 movie franchise's except for Star Wars at soon to be six. I just seem to be too much. If there is a huge franchise, I will watch the movies, and I will understand why there is 4 plus movies. It all about money and demand.

[Spider-Fan2004]

MasterRegal your confusing me. You want more Spider-Man movies but you don't want more than three!?!?! Your making my tiny little narrow mind hurt.:confused:

[MasterRegal]

Okay, listen, we obviously have eachother both confused. My OPINION is that I will only like to see three Spider-Man movies. If a huge franchise errupts, I won't be dissapointed, but it is not what I want. Huge franchise to ME seems to run on forever. We already have the comics which will run for God knows how long. I don't see that going no where. As much as I love Spider-Man, I would prefer only three, again if there is more I will be okay with it, but it is not what I want. You have to understand what I am feeling in my head.

[webslinger107]

I think what hes saying is he only wants 3 spidey movies BUT if more than 3 come out he wouldnt care:)

[vincebblack]

I'm like you guys am a major Spider-Man Fan. I have been so since I was a kid, and seeing these movies has made me glad to still be a fan. HOWEVER, Hollywood usually changes things to accomodate the media form used. Ultimate Spider-Man has been a driving force for the Spider-Man projects, and the new interpretation of Venom in that story arc is easier to tell than about an alien lifeform. These movies attempt to ground themselves as close to reality as possible, so, the Alien Symbiote is OUT, while a secret Suit developed by Eddie Brock and Peter's fathers to help fight cancer, may be a reasonable direction. Any way, an appearance of Venom will require CUTTING EDGE CGI! Movies are way better at this than they use to be, but as the HULK movie showed that too much CGI is not a good thing. Taking a MacFarlane approach (grounded in horror and suspense) may be a great direction for the story to go. Consulting with someone like M. Night Shyamalan on how to best achieve this, and get a PG-13 Rating is the way to go. Anyway, I'm sure that the team that brought us these Web-Slinging Masterpieces will do us proud on any subsequent sequels as well. So, in the mean time, let's prepare ourselves to make history, by driving Spider-Man 2 to the Number 1 spot as the Highest Grossing Domestic Movie ever!

[Spider-Fan2004]

AMEN to you brother!!!! That was a beautiful post, brought a tear to my eye. That was the true words of a really fan! I would love to see Sam bring Todd McFarlane and M. Night on for a Spider-Man vs. Venom movie! So much creativity would be pure excellence. And if was starting to look too good, they could bring Ang Lee in to screw something up. Just kidding, Ang Lee only screwed up Hulk one of the most complex Marvel character. Stay away from Marvel Ang Lee.:|

[web-head_S939]

Has any one thought of the Sinister Six for Spider-Man 3?

[webslinger107]

Originally posted by web-head_S939
Has any one thought of the Sinister Six for Spider-Man 3?
As much as it would be cool to see spidey take on six charachters they probably wont but if they do it on the sixth movie with HARRY,LIZARD<DOC OCK ECT...they could take villians from the past movies an introduce harry as the 2nd goblin an a new villian:D :eek:

[web-head_S939]

or do flashback backgrounds for each of them.

[howheat]

I think that would take too long for a two hour movie to properly give character development to all 6 villains and still have the movie be about Spider-Man, I say stick to one villain at a time, but up the scale of what's at risk...but that's just me

[kostas.n]

you think wrong my friend about jake gyllenhaal not for the probability to play on spiderman 3 but that he is a great actor with a lot of abilities.i know that he may started his career with not so intrested movies but the next movies will be much better.have fun and judge more objective the next time. bye my friend.

[masterchief5000]

^^^^ I wonder if we'll ever see him again.

[MasterRegal]

I'm sure we will all love to see Spidey fight six villains at the same time. That will pose for amazing ellaborate fights. The story behind each character is what you have to worry about.

You could have Doc Ock survive part two. Maybe Spidey is able to destory is arms, and the Doc is put away. Then have other sequels with the villains surviving or survive an apparent death, until the Sinister Six is developed. Of course repeating a fake death, or a surviving villain will get old eventually.

[howheat]

Just the possibility alone of over cackling villains like the dumb Batman movies is enough reason to not want multiple villains.

[masterchief5000]

Originally posted by MasterRegal
I'm sure we will all love to see Spidey fight six villains at the same time. That will pose for amazing ellaborate fights. The story behind each character is what you have to worry about.

You could have Doc Ock survive part two. Maybe Spidey is able to destory is arms, and the Doc is put away. Then have other sequels with the villains surviving or survive an apparent death, until the Sinister Six is developed. Of course repeating a fake death, or a surviving villain will get old eventually.

You would need six movies just for that;)

[calculator2006]

In Spider-man 3, I would like to see more action/fighting scenes. I would like to see a fight scene where Spidey is throwing hundreds of punches in lightning quick speed. Venom and Carnage would be nice, only if they do storyline and costumes correctly.

[MasterRegal]

If there is going to be more action in Spider-Man 3, which I really would love to see, it has to be scripted well with a story that will blow us away. Some movies have great action, but their story fail to be that of it's action.

[calculator2006]

And good choreography.

Another thread talks about the choreographer for Spider-man 2, and he sounds like he does his job well.

[MasterRegal]

Yes and good choreography. With Spider-Man 2 with Doc Ock we should expect to see amazing fights, so I don't think I have to worry about the fights in Spider-Man 3. They will try to top it. I just hope it is really wild, lots of movement, very ellaborate.