View Full Version : The difference between comic's Spidey and Movie's Spidey?
Kai the Spider-Teen
06-14-2004, 11:01 PM
Movie Spidey rock!! Comic Spider is whatever. Who agrees with me?
lordof
06-14-2004, 11:04 PM
Sorry to hear about your S.W. thread, Kai. To be honest, I'm surprised it lasted this long.
LatvianSpideyFan
06-14-2004, 11:23 PM
From what Ive seen of the Comic Spider Man (which granted isnt much) He is just way to used to being Spider Man. He is cocky and I've always found him annoying. The Movie Spider Man is unsure of himself and still deals with normal life problems plus freaky bad guys with 8 legs and green costumes. I have to say Movie Spidey is better.
Comic Spidey. The regular series. He is the same character evolving from the 60's. Movie Spidey is a small non continuity piece of the original. Comic Spidey knows pain that movie Spidey couldn't even dream of. This only proves my point,the originals are in trouble when the new generation of comic readers can't relate. If movie Spidey wins this poll it will be a shame.
Arachkid
06-15-2004, 12:23 AM
Originally posted by LatvianSpideyFan
From what Ive seen of the Comic Spider Man (which granted isnt much) He is just way to used to being Spider Man. He is cocky and I've always found him annoying. The Movie Spider Man is unsure of himself and still deals with normal life problems plus freaky bad guys with 8 legs and green costumes. I have to say Movie Spidey is better.
Erm, read earlier Spidey comics, then?
Arachkid
06-15-2004, 12:24 AM
Originally posted by sguy
Comic Spidey. The regular series. He is the same character evolving from the 60's. Movie Spidey is a small non continuity piece of the original. Comic Spidey knows pain that movie Spidey couldn't even dream of. This only proves my point,the originals are in trouble when the new generation of comic readers can't relate. If movie Spidey wins this poll it will be a shame.
It would just prove there aren't many comic readers voting, is all. :P
Fancydan59
06-15-2004, 01:08 AM
Comic Spidey all the way!
The movie Spidey is cool and all, because we get to see the comic version come to life on the big screen. But without the forty plus years of Spiderman comics, we wouldn't have the leigons of fans to make the movie such a box office success.
spiderkrissser
06-15-2004, 01:10 AM
The differents???
The comic deserves more respect then the movie, because it has been around for over 40 years, and if it hasn't been for the comic beeing so successful, we wouldn't have a movie right now. And secondly, the spidey in the comics have mechanical webshooters, while spider-man from the movies is organic. And I think that the organic ones are waaay cooler then the mechanicals, I dont see why some people are irritated by the fact that they went with the organic ones. It works way better cinematickly, and it adds yet another coooooool super-power which spidey never really had in the first place...
Fancydan59
06-15-2004, 01:24 AM
Organic webbing "probably" did work out better for the movie, but I can't agree that it was "cooler".
It's just a tough sell to get movie goers to believe a teenager could invent something so high tech.
SpindelStrike
06-15-2004, 01:24 AM
of course the spider-man from the comics is better. the movie is based on the comics! and someone said that the spidey in the comics is cocky?! that has certainly never been the case in any spidey comic.
LatvianSpideyFan
06-15-2004, 02:00 AM
Erm, read earlier Spidey comics, then?
How early? If you mean 1st edition then no. The only comic Spidey I've been introduced to is a weekly Sunday Continuation comic that ran for about a year in my paper, I think maybe 2 comic books, and a Spider Man playstation game thats based on the comics.
I could be wrong but that doesn't sound like it's enough to give a fair opinion but is understandable because of that being all you've been exposed to. Just my opinion..
LatvianSpideyFan
06-15-2004, 04:53 AM
Yeah but you've also only seen 1 Spider Man movie. Thats 2 hours of exposure compared to 40 years of comics. How can anyone make a fair judgment? ;)
True. But I have read both books and played the 1st movie game. I personally like the plot of the comics and the outlook of comic Spidey better. Movie Spidey is so simplified to reach a wide demographic that there is so many intricate details that are always changing with comic Spidey and yet is still faithful to the continuity of the character.
Elvis 72
06-15-2004, 05:43 AM
I love the the movie Spider, (I think it is becoming one of my all time favorites.) but you can't pick of the movie and get a good read with a variety of villains and drama and suspense with every "ish" that comes out. I pick up every Spidey book that comes out every month including Spider-Girl.
Arachkid
06-15-2004, 07:41 AM
Originally posted by LatvianSpideyFan
How early? If you mean 1st edition then no. The only comic Spidey I've been introduced to is a weekly Sunday Continuation comic that ran for about a year in my paper, I think maybe 2 comic books, and a Spider Man playstation game thats based on the comics.
So you read comics/play games based on Spiderman way late-age. Besides, Spidey's quick wit is one of the best things about him. It doesn't display cockiness, it just helps keep the villains off of the fact he may be worried and stressed behind the mask.
Including the first Spider-man book as opposed to the movie. The book had more story. So I can honestly say, I have never seen a movie better than the literary version. But in popularity, I know more movie than literary fans.:D
lordof
06-15-2004, 10:23 PM
IMO, they're the same thing.
And I love them both.
Movie Spidey to me is just eye candy. If you can picture in the comics,the scenes happening in between the panels,it's amazing. The cg is all there is. That's what makes the first Spider-man watchable. Pete has problems in the movie and problems in the comics. Most of the similarities stop there.
Terminator3
06-15-2004, 10:35 PM
comic was way better i read it all the time the movie didnt do it justice i hope the second one does
Preach on Terminator3. Welcome to the boards.:D
LatvianSpideyFan
06-15-2004, 11:15 PM
And as we come around the 21st vote its Comic Spidey: 11 and Movie Spidey: 10. It doesnt get any closer than this. Fans may soon start up huge arguements on which is better. The comic Spidey fans may leave the message board and go to the official comic Spider Man site instead. Only time can tell. I'll be here bringing you up to date on this huge breaking story as Comic Spidey goes up against Movie Spidey in a battle for the ages.
Arachkid
06-15-2004, 11:50 PM
The argument only lies between people who have only seen the movies, and those who know better.
Anyone who's read more than one Spidey comic <in order, and hopefully NOT from the Clone Saga>, knows the truth.
'Nuff said.
Fancydan59
06-16-2004, 12:02 AM
Hah! LAMO
You hit that nail on the head kid! :D
LatvianSpideyFan
06-16-2004, 01:21 AM
Either that or its people who have read all the comic books and only seen one movie. This is an impossibile vote since the Movie Spidey has a huge dis-advantdge since it's the only movie (that means 2 hours) against comics that have been around since 1962. There is no fair way to decide until there have been at least 4 more Spider Man movies.
True but if you look at the changes Raimi has concerning the situations the characters have especially considering movie Spidey is a Mj pining wimp since the he was a kid,plus how Norman found everything out is better in the comics,it really isn't even a contest. Too much was changed for a simplistic wide demographic. Now if the movie actually went by the comics,then you have the true Peter parker and not some condensed version for the sake of putting butts in seats. Look at the numbers at comics lately. Young kids would rather sit down for 2 hrs. and watch a movie that requires no imagination then read comics for the most part anyway. I know this is the movie site but the actual source material is berated here with the exception of Ultimate Spidey and that isn't the original anyway.
Kadosho
06-16-2004, 07:00 AM
Movie Spidey all the way.
Its really brings the comic to life. Not just 32 pages, and having to wait for the next-ish.
But then again they both share the same characters, just the film puts its all into it. So its not just your imagination making it come to life. This is what it would really be like.
Arachkid
06-16-2004, 12:25 PM
Originally posted by Kadosho
Movie Spidey all the way.
Its really brings the comic to life. Not just 32 pages, and having to wait for the next-ish.
No, just waiting 2-3 years for the next movie as opposed to 3-4 weeks for the next ish. :P
Arachkid
06-16-2004, 12:27 PM
Originally posted by sguy
True but if you look at the changes Raimi has concerning the situations the characters have especially considering movie Spidey is a Mj pining wimp since the he was a kid,plus how Norman found everything out is better in the comics,it really isn't even a contest. Too much was changed for a simplistic wide demographic. Now if the movie actually went by the comics,then you have the true Peter parker and not some condensed version for the sake of putting butts in seats. Look at the numbers at comics lately. Young kids would rather sit down for 2 hrs. and watch a movie that requires no imagination then read comics for the most part anyway. I know this is the movie site but the actual source material is berated here with the exception of Ultimate Spidey and that isn't the original anyway.
Exactly... they have to condense it - it's *possible* to do a extended, true translation, but in cartoons only. And even then, most who make cartoons like to go WAY off the handle on some things.
I guess I don't mind the condensing so much for the movie but departures where there are changes made for the movies that don't have to be made are a little much and I'm not talking about the webshooters. Lion's Gate have the rights to do cartoons. These should be more in touch with the comics.
elvis800
06-16-2004, 02:00 PM
I think it's hard to choose between the two. They both have their faults, even though they're the same person. I think it's easier to understand one once you know the traits of the other.
Arachkid
06-16-2004, 02:36 PM
The reason I choose comic Spidey, and without a problem, is the fact they never had to "dumb" him down.
Granted, I'm not going through it myself, but Stormin' Norman's express exit from Thanksgiving dinner directly after looking at Peter's arm... and Pete is still surprised when he finds out who GG is.
Originally posted by Arachkid
The reason I choose comic Spidey, and without a problem, is the fact they never had to "dumb" him down.
Granted, I'm not going through it myself, but Stormin' Norman's express exit from Thanksgiving dinner directly after looking at Peter's arm... and Pete is still surprised when he finds out who GG is.
Good point. It's like everyone took stupid pills in the movie for the story to continue. Comic Spidey should win just like how Comic Daredevil should too if there was a poll.
Originally posted by LatvianSpideyFan
Either that or its people who have read all the comic books and only seen one movie. This is an impossibile vote since the Movie Spidey has a huge dis-advantdge since it's the only movie (that means 2 hours) against comics that have been around since 1962. There is no fair way to decide until there have been at least 4 more Spider Man movies.
First appearance of Spider-man in comics 'Amazing Fantasy 15' currently sells at about $100,000.00. Spider-man DVD $25.00 tops.
First comic v first movie, the movie still loses. LOL
Everything else is mastercard.;)
Alright! We may not see eye to eye on Gwen/Mj but we're both Spidey comic fans first,movie Spidey fans second. Comic beats movie anyday.
SpindelStrike
06-16-2004, 09:52 PM
Originally posted by sguy
Everything else is mastercard.;)
Alright! We may not see eye to eye on Gwen/Mj but we're both Spidey comic fans first,movie Spidey fans second. Comic beats movie anyday. You took the words right outta my mouth.. or is it fingers since i'm typing? ehh you know what i mean
SpindelStrike
06-16-2004, 09:53 PM
Originally posted by Arachkid
No, just waiting 2-3 years for the next movie as opposed to 3-4 weeks for the next ish. :P haha yeah exactly. and plus a comic can go WAYYY more into depth with characters, as oppose to a movie.
Arachkid
06-16-2004, 10:31 PM
Originally posted by SpindelStrike
haha yeah exactly. and plus a comic can go WAYYY more into depth with characters, as oppose to a movie.
Welllll... until they can come up with a cinematic version of Simone <the movie with the computer generated actress>. :P
Then all it would require is mike-work. :P
STEVEPARKER
06-16-2004, 10:46 PM
OK I will try to make this as direct as possible. This poll is stupid.
Reason 1. Spider-man was born on the pages of a comic. That is the origin of Spider-man.
Reason 2. To just say that "Oh comic spidey is annoying and blah blah blah, lets not forget there have been many writes and artists and titles in the 40 + great years. Like the Legend Stan Lee. So its rather unfair because there have been many interpretations.
An 90% of its has been awesome.
Reason 3. The movie is different in some ways but still stay pretty true to the story of Spider-man( in his first couple of years as being a hero.)
Reason 4. To say that you choose MOVIE spidey only proves you are QUOTE end quote " A SPIDEY NOOB" ~ which for those of you who dont know what the means is a person who has little knowledge of Spidey or just started to be a fan only from the movie.
Now I can go on forever with these reasons but I wont. I clearly want to state that I think Spider-man movies are great, hell I think the cartoons are great ( with the only expection to that horrible fox series uhhh...Spider-man: Unlimited. The whole Earth X deal with Man Wolf who is a horrible villian for 3).
The comic series should be everyone pick but sadly I cannot control such things. It is great Spider-man is developed in many ways. An to say again on He cracks to many jokes when he is older. Well it makes sense. He is more experienced with his powers. Many bad things have happened in his life like the death of his Uncle Ben, Gwen Stacy,so on so on. So when he does his joking its just keeping his self-esteem High and so he is not always depressed. An how he deals with things and makes jokes is what makes Spider-man a uniqe super-hero I mean if he was always depressed we would have another DareDevil ( who might I add is awesome but its nice to have some variety.)
So to you fans who chose comic over movie, I salute you all and would like to say you are honestly Spider-man fans.
" Stay true to your roots...THWIP!"-steve parker
Arachkid
06-16-2004, 10:50 PM
I have *no* problem with someone who would choose movie Spidey over comic Spidey as long as they are deeply knowledgeable of *both*.
The people who have posted so far in defense of movie Spidey are *not*.
If I saw full, actual reasons as to why movie Spidey was better, and could even agree with *part* of it, or see the reasoning, I'd value their right to an opinion. I'd also think they were a little loopy, but that's a whole different story. :P
SteveParker and Arachnid are right. The thing is with Movie Spidey there is so much lost in the translation that results in different cause and effects. We know what happened in the comics and it involves more intelligence or tragic moments than the movie can allow. I feel the first movie in a way talks down to the audience. They make the characters so dumb and oblivious to what they are seeing or hearing. Like the audience wouldn't understand a deep plot enough to get into it. Evrytime I see X-2 I never feel like I'm watching a kid's movie. The Amazing comic to a degree is for kids but not as much as the movie is catered to them. Goblin's swear word at the end was even removed. I see the Spidey movie as a what if or alternate timeline. That's how the FOX cartoon ended it and explained how things were so different. Maybe that would be a nice way to end it or have a kid reading a comic at the end and closes the book. it would be another nice nod to Superman which begins that way. I'm not saying do it but it might be a cool way for the fans who stuck around so long for a movie and got an abbreviated version of things.
STEVEPARKER
06-17-2004, 10:46 AM
Is much as that would be interesting and sort of make you stop and think if a kid closed the comic book at the end. I personally wouldn't like it that way because I personally want to believe that oh this is real or oh this could happen when I watch the movie. Not some kids imagination. Its a nice thought but I dont think sony and marvel are going that way. Though thank you sguy for agreeing with me I salute YOU>~Steve Parker
ntbone
06-17-2004, 10:52 AM
Nothing can beat the original Spiderman comic, not even the movie version. What the movie version has done has expanded on the idea and shown millions of people who never had much interest in the comic book version. So the movie version may be "cooler", but the comic book version is legendary. Thank you.
STEVEPARKER
06-17-2004, 11:06 AM
T-Bone that was sort but, very true.
I agree also with you.
THwip!~steve parker
I think that the less catering the movie is to kids,the more the movie has more of a real feel to it. I'm hoping the 3rd one has even more of that feeling than the second one coming. A natural progression.
Kai the Spider-Teen
06-17-2004, 02:46 PM
Originally posted by lordof
Sorry to hear about your S.W. thread, Kai. To be honest, I'm surprised it lasted this long. Yeah. Me too.
merry2004
06-18-2004, 11:12 AM
Yeah, I think that the movie Spider-Man is way better.
Originally posted by merry2004
Yeah, I think that the movie Spider-Man is way better.
Did you collect comics before the movie or did the movie get you into Spidey?
papiguz6786
06-18-2004, 12:55 PM
wow...a lot of good points raised yo. i was watching a special on the 1st movie and the producer of the first spidey movie, Laura Ziskin, said that the movie was made to fit this time period, the new millenium. i think they didn't want to keep true to the comic, but were more focused on keeping true to the spirit and the romance of what makes "Spiderman" the great character he is and the stories he's in.
but all the bull$#!t i said above aside, Comic spidey is still better only for the reason that its a contest between student vs. master. Movie spidey isn't even new and improved other than the organic webbing and the spider logo on his back. Tobey Maguire isn't a good Peter Parker because Peter Parker has always been a jokester. The Spiderpowers just brought it out of him cuz it made him confidant. Maguire portrays the Peter Parker that was always serious and troubled about something (reminds me of the Peter who just found out he was a clone, which we all hated i'm sure). Comic spidey is better just cuz. there's no contest.
Hmm ..yeah I guess he does act more like Ben Reilly than Peter. The first Spidey movie was too mainstream and while appealing to a casual movie goer aside from the visuals really ignored the fans and it seems like everyone has to defend it because it made a lot of money and it's Spidey. Not once was Pete on the phone in costume or doing most things he does in the comics. Spidey himself was reduced to fighting bad guys and leaving. Spidey is always talking. Only Deadpool talks less and most of the jokes were lame. People that bash superman have to keep something in mind. That movie did something right otherwise Sam wouldn't have copied scenes from it instead of going for it's own spidey look. Two should clear some of this up. I don't see the hoopla over the first movie. The movie kinda fell apart after Ben died and the best cg was at the end. Hopefully there will be no more kidnapping MJ(three times!) and she won't act like Gwen and will be her partying opinionated self. She even went out in Mcfarlane's run years later. Comic Spidey rules.
papiguz6786
06-18-2004, 01:53 PM
couldn't have put it better myself. you are SOOOOOOO freakin right.
Thanks man. I didn't think of Pete acting like his clone days till you mentioned it. Welcome to the boards.
Arachkid
06-18-2004, 03:16 PM
I just figured the spiderpowers included manic depression.
LOL He did act that way. I mean Pete isn't depressing 24/7.
spidoman
06-19-2004, 08:52 AM
I would have to choose the movie spidey, but only because I'm not a big fan of comic books. There's nothing wrong with them, they are amazing pieces of art and popculture, however I just have trouble getting into them. However, I am a movie nut. Nothing wrong with the comic books, I just get more caught up into movies.
Nothing wrong with that. There are more movie goers than comic readers. The numbers say so.
spideyfan328
06-19-2004, 09:38 AM
Hey! I haven't even read one spidey comic book, so I really can't comment on the difference. All I know is that when I tried to take the ultimate fan quiz on this website, I failed miserably!:\
When I go to comic shops there are some people that talk about the movie and belittle the comic. Most of them have just gotten into Spidey because of the movie. These same kids pick on people different than them. Be it smart or just different looking from the norm. That is what I don't like. Comic Spidey kept me company through some really rough times in a way the movie couldn't. Movie Spidey is accessible to more people and at the same time who will watch the movie but lose the message. Comics are not really popular and not everyone reads them. Spidey was for everyone but now it's speaking for the same people it sought that do not treat people fairly. If you like Spidey,think twice about what you say to another person because they aren't like you. The comic put that across better than what the movie could. Just my opinion...
STEVEPARKER
06-20-2004, 02:22 AM
TRUE that sguy...the only thing I disagree with is when you said Tobey acts like Ben Reily..that is not true.
I think with the storyline of the movie he does a good job. I am sure in 2 he has a little more jokes but it is made to be a serious movie. Plus these are the early years..so Spidey really isnt that confident as he is in the comics. Plus who wouldnt be depressed if you are doing bad at your job, your aunt is losing her home, you lost your uncle plus you feel responsible,doesnt have MJ and etc.So I am totally agreeing COmic is better in every way then movie. Though i still think the movie is great. Peace! steve parker
Thanks man. I wish he was a little more confident in the movie and not so brooding. In comparison to other brooding characters he's not that brooding but compared to comic Parker he kinda is. The Ben Reilly statement to clarify, what I meant to say is he acted more like in the beginning when he was wandering around thinking he was a clone. Or when Pete thought he was a clone as papiguz6786 said. He cracked a few jokes but mainly was depressed through out. As for the movie being serious,check out this thread. There might be a few spoilers to Sp2 but nothing severe.
http://boards.sonypictures.com/spiderman/showthread.php?s=&postid=753314#post753314
Kadosho
06-20-2004, 11:59 AM
I havent been into comics lately, but keeps me interested. i buy wizard comix zine mag every now and then to keep updated on whats going on.
+Arachkid, i wasnt serious on my last msg before. So dont worry about it. ^^;
darkrane17
06-24-2004, 07:58 AM
I'm read The amazing spider-man and what i dont understand is why isnt M.J. or Harry in those?
Arachkid
06-24-2004, 08:08 AM
Originally posted by darkrane17
I'm read The amazing spider-man and what i dont understand is why isnt M.J. or Harry in those?
If you're reading current ASM, MJ and Peter are working back into their marriage from having problems, and Harry, well... he's dead. :P
Kai the Spider-Teen
06-25-2004, 04:58 PM
What?
STEVEPARKER
06-25-2004, 05:27 PM
I currently read all Spider-man titles. AN AMAZING has MJ in it and like that guy said Harry is dead and has been dead for awhile. But just to let people know the new story arc in AMAZING is nothing short of AMAZING if not perfect. Its called "Sins Past" and it focusing on a topic that is popular GWEN STACY! It starts out where MJ is with Peter at their house.
Aunt MAy gets the mail. AN is shocked when he finds a letter from gwen to peter that says or is about to say some big secret. As Peter finds out he also finds out that the letter was sent and post this YEAR!!!! I wont tell you the rest but its great. It is giving new info that is important all the way back in ASM 119. SO its going to be great. ART is perfect and the story keeps you on your toes. THIS IS FOR ASM 509.
~steve parker
clay391
06-26-2004, 03:59 AM
I agree the comics are better because there is alot the movies can't do in the comics not mentioning cg. Not jumping off subject here but using this as an example, I heard alot of fans of X-men were disappointed because X-men 2 jumped eons of historical data from Wolverine finding out where he got his adamantium to Jean Grey become the Phoenix. I feel this is something that will happen with Spider-man movies as well because there is so much history in the comics and the movies will never be able to cover all the history. So, the comics will always be better and the movies will only have cg and be able to bring the drawings to life...eye candy. However, I not dissing the movie because I love to see comics come to life. I find that there is no comparison from comics to movies because they both are great. Maybe we should be arguing which comic is better issue #1 or issue #2 and maybe we should be arguing which Spider-man movie is better, Spider-man 1 or Spider-man 2. I encourage your opinions, without them we might as well burn the constitution. hehe.
Matt_t3h_gr33b
06-26-2004, 11:44 AM
I used to prefer the movie version, but now ive read this post i wanna start reading the comics! lol. You comic ppl sound like die hard fans and I think thats really cool :) Unfortunately i dont think you can get many comics in England but I sometimes watch the cartoon on tv. I prefer that to the film, as you all say the characters in sm1 are all to stupid.
Spoilerish:
In the scene where ock throws the car into the window, Mj wanted to kiss peter again, proving that she knew he was spidey from when he kissed herin the first movie. Thats what i think anyway
Arachkid
06-26-2004, 01:22 PM
Originally posted by Matt_t3h_gr33b
I used to prefer the movie version, but now ive read this post i wanna start reading the comics! lol. You comic ppl sound like die hard fans and I think thats really cool :) Unfortunately i dont think you can get many comics in England but I sometimes watch the cartoon on tv. I prefer that to the film, as you all say the characters in sm1 are all to stupid.
Spoilerish:
In the scene where ock throws the car into the window, Mj wanted to kiss peter again, proving that she knew he was spidey from when he kissed herin the first movie. Thats what i think anyway
SPOILER:
MJ only wanted Peter to kiss her because she could tell in the kiss if he still loved her, because he had just told her he didn't.
clay391
06-27-2004, 12:53 AM
Are you sure about that Arachkid.
Thats what the movie says and thats what MJ wants Peter to think and obviously she has you fooled too.
She kissed Spider-man hanging upside down in the alley, then at the end she kissed Peter in the graveyard. Now, to a man kissing women may seem all the same but I know for fact that women can remember how each and every man kissed them, like they can remember what other girls wear to dances. At the end of the first, she put on a surprised look on her face, as if that was wierd. Automatically, I knew what she was thinking. Why is Spider-man's kiss exactly the same as Peter Parker's kiss?
Doc.Oct
06-27-2004, 07:06 AM
the comics were great but after Stan Lee stoped making them it got a bit strange and confusing so the movies for me
Fans of the movie who know nothing of the comics can't compare them to each other without giving in to the cg effects convincing them that the movie is better. The incarnation of movie Spidey takes away alot of elements that are Spidey but hangs on to only the basics. Everything else is summed up to end the story. Comic Spidey rules. There is so much depth that movie Spidey could never cover. Comic spidey is why there is a movie Spidey. New fans of Spidey now because of the movie overrun by visual effects and made up teen melodrama for the movie. That sucks. Remember the roots guys. It's where it's really at. A deep story to tell and not moving eye candy.
Arachkid
06-27-2004, 07:22 PM
Agreed. Anyone who's going to make a comparison of movie Spidey vs. comic Spidey needs to have read at least 40, consecutive, non-clone saga comics in a row.
LOL At least. I mean you can skip around. Just get the idea of the character and important elemnts of the characters that are absent from the movie but make great characterization. Non-clone is definitely a plus.
Jamesgodawgs
06-27-2004, 10:33 PM
I like the movie version more.
howheat
06-27-2004, 10:38 PM
I'm all about the Spider-Man in the comics, I love how they've built his character through decades of writing...but I'm more excited about the movie on Wednesday than I've ever been about any comic. I've always tried to think of the movie and comic Spider-Man as the same character translated through different mediums...oh wait that's exactly what it is, so why are we comparing again?
Wolverina05
06-28-2004, 12:54 AM
So I voted for the Comic Books, such an easy decision! Someone said about the literary work being better and I think that's the key. {I'm too tired to look back at who said it, sorry!;) Some other very good points have been mentioned too!}
But seriously, anyone who reads novels and comics, you will RARELY if EVER hear them say the movie was better than the book.
Who read Jurassic Park? Book ROCKED! I did the mistake of seeing the movie first, and I loved the movie. Then I read the book, couldn't watch Jurassic Park for years because it just wasn't as good. (And recently, although I loved a certain Wizard's movie, I found it wanting.)
That is the same with comics I believe, because yeah, you may be more excited for a movie coming out, but that's because you have been WAITING SO LONG! And even with that, some storylines are so great, you're practically chomping at the bit for the next ish to come out.
For example, mentioned previously ASM #509, SO GREAT! (Really like Deodato but kinda already missing Romita Jr.) Really wish that was coming out each day rather than monthly!) Oh, and did you readers pick up that the envelope was postmarked Jun 23rd 2004 and that was the day the book was released? Thought that was so fun! :)
And honestly it is great to see some visuals and our heros come to life, but as said before many times, without the books, there'd be no movie. And it could be worse-almost afraid to say his name, starts with a "B" ends with a "n". Raimi better stay on for the "4th" movie of Spidey.
Wolverina ///
drseuss90
06-28-2004, 03:26 PM
Originally posted by STEVEPARKER
I currently read all Spider-man titles. AN AMAZING has MJ in it and like that guy said Harry is dead and has been dead for awhile. But just to let people know the new story arc in AMAZING is nothing short of AMAZING if not perfect. Its called "Sins Past" and it focusing on a topic that is popular GWEN STACY! It starts out where MJ is with Peter at their house.
Aunt MAy gets the mail. AN is shocked when he finds a letter from gwen to peter that says or is about to say some big secret. As Peter finds out he also finds out that the letter was sent and post this YEAR!!!! I wont tell you the rest but its great. It is giving new info that is important all the way back in ASM 119. SO its going to be great. ART is perfect and the story keeps you on your toes. THIS IS FOR ASM 509.
~steve parker
I have to say, I've been reading comics for quite sometime, and spiderman holds the largest portion of my collection. "Sins Past" should be really good. One of the better stories in the ASM series. I'm looking forward to reading more of it.
Also, to keep in the theme of the thread. The movie spiderman is good, but the comic spiderman is simply awesome. The movie can only hold in it a small part of the comic (it does a pretty good job of this), but it will never be able to hold the full depth of the comic spiderman (as the comic spiderman has been developed for a longer time.)
clay391
06-29-2004, 08:18 PM
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Kai the Spider-Teen
07-02-2004, 07:17 AM
SM2 here!!! Did doc ock die?
Kai the Spider-Teen
07-04-2004, 10:50 AM
Hope not. The Dude Rocks!!
arach-na-fan
07-04-2004, 11:14 AM
without a doubt, comic Spidey is the best.
Kai the Spider-Teen
07-04-2004, 11:17 AM
Haven't seen him!!
Demothones Drake
07-04-2004, 03:45 PM
Why does everyone obsess with comic version vs movie version? They're both versions, neither is real, and both are as valid as the other regardless of which came first or whatever.
The movie version is as relevant as the comic version. The video game version of Spider-Man is equally relevant, as is the Spider-Man from the back of cereal boxes, or from action figure packaging, or colouring books.
They all contribute to the conciousness of the character and that's the only place it actually exists.
Unknown Muncher
07-04-2004, 04:05 PM
I've never got into the comics so that's why i am asking this question. I heard that spiderman and mj get divorced or something like that in the comic. If that is true do u think that they will do that in the movies?
Originally posted by Demothones Drake
Why does everyone obsess with comic version vs movie version? They're both versions, neither is real, and both are as valid as the other regardless of which came first or whatever.
The movie version is as relevant as the comic version. The video game version of Spider-Man is equally relevant, as is the Spider-Man from the back of cereal boxes, or from action figure packaging, or colouring books.
They all contribute to the conciousness of the character and that's the only place it actually exists.
Comic version expands on an idea that is recycled for the movie. Comic will always be more valid. There would be no movie to enjoy without the foundation of the comic. Neither is real but one is better. If you enjoy the Matrix comic if they ever did make one,then years later seen the movie which is extremely different from the comic then you might be asking yourself which one you enjoyed more.
spider_man_fan_87
07-04-2004, 04:41 PM
I think the movies and the comic books are cool, I like them both. But...no matter how cool the comics are, the movies are 100 times better!:D :eek:
Cychotec
07-04-2004, 10:49 PM
gotta chose comic Spidey. Because as its been said before Movie Spidey IS Comic spidey, just told a different way. And I liked how the Clone saga started, just not the ugly turn of events in SSM 226. They should have had Reilly move on after May's death and live in a different city. Of course supposing that they should have killed aunt May anyhow.
Demothones Drake
07-05-2004, 12:33 AM
Even the comic version of Spider-Man isn't Spider-Man. Are you going to try and define Spider-Man as Amazing Spider-Man or Spectacular Spider-Man? Ultimate Spider-Man counts or doesn't? Mavel Age Spider-Man is in or out? Or because they all appear in comic form they're all supossed to be valid?
Nah, comics are just a medium and it's the stories being told that count.
Kai the Spider-Teen
07-05-2004, 10:53 AM
Interesting. Do you have the idea that I don't have a clue about what your saying.
Aamizng Spider-man is Spiderman. Ultimate doesn't count. Marvel age is out too cause they are just updating the original stories from the sixties. The original should be valid unless the character has a past that is supposed to be convoluted. Updating for the times is cool but it's not the definitive marvel origin. Just my opinion...
Demothones Drake
07-05-2004, 05:24 PM
My point is, even within the original source material there are multiple interpretations on the character, even within the same title by the same creative team. You can't rule out any version of Spider-Man because they all draw from the same source: the idea.
The title of this thread? The difference between comics Spidey and Movie Spidey.
My point: even the comic version of Spidey has it's differences to/from the comic version of Spidey.
Kai the Spider-Teen
07-14-2004, 01:42 PM
Originally posted by sguy
Aamizng Spider-man is Spiderman. Ultimate doesn't count. Marvel age is out too cause they are just updating the original stories from the sixties. The original should be valid unless the character has a past that is supposed to be convoluted. Updating for the times is cool but it's not the definitive marvel origin. Just my opinion... YEEEEEEAAAAHHH Buddy.
cowboyjust
07-15-2004, 05:27 PM
dude the only reason ur saying that is casue ur not a freal spidy fan, spiderman comics were out for so so so many more years befor the cartoon or the stupid movies, the comics are better then the movie by far. ur one of those people who didnt liek spiderman until the movie cause now everyone know spiderman, u dont know anything about him!
Yup. The same jocks that picked on kids for liking Spider-man are now talking about how good the movie was. Hypocrites.
imscorpia
07-15-2004, 05:40 PM
..we are all "real" spidey fans here. I read the originals back in the beginning, lost interest as I grew older, and the movies have brought my childhood obsession back full swing. I love what spidey is, stands for, and they way he resonates - guys making up story lines come and go, regardless of mediatype, and loyal fans endure.
scorp
Kai the Spider-Teen
07-21-2004, 07:00 AM
Originally posted by cowboyjust
dude the only reason ur saying that is casue ur not a freal spidy fan, spiderman comics were out for so so so many more years befor the cartoon or the stupid movies, the comics are better then the movie by far. ur one of those people who didnt liek spiderman until the movie cause now everyone know spiderman, u dont know anything about him! I hate meeces to peices!!
Kai the Spider-Teen
07-22-2004, 06:11 PM
Now who do you think rated this post?
spideymoviegirl
07-25-2004, 09:03 AM
i think from my username u can probably guess that i'm a movie spidey fan but i've never read a single Spiderman comic in my life so i guess i really can't make the slightest comparison. but the thing for me is that i have a passion for cinema, u know, the whole movie making deal and i just think that Sam Raimi's Spiderman and Spiderman 2 were very very well-made movies. great script, great acting (and if anyone says different about the acting i'll punch them), great story, and grrreat thrill ride.
now i don't know the comic spidey that well, but i do know that Sam Raimi was a Spiderman fan since his childhood and that Stan Lee said that all the key elements of the comic were captured in the film. and i don't think they made the Spiderman movies to make Spiderman more popular. Sam Raimi just wanted to tell a coming-of-age story about a boy growing to be able to accept responsibility. to do that i don't think Raimi had to incorporate every single little thing about the Peter Parker from the comic book into the movie. the movie was just basically the right blend between the 40+ years of comic book spidey and the contemporary spidey that a vast audience will accept today.
i don't think Sam made these movies just for diehard spidey fans that have been around since the beginning; he wanted to make a movie with universal themes that everyone can enjoy (don't forget that this is his movie). and so with that he obviously did an extremely great job since the number of Spiderman fans has grown over the top because of the movie. so don’t berate those of us who are just coming to love Spiderman because of the movie; it was a great movie so what are we supposed to do?!
and to those of u who want so badly for Spidey to be the jokester that he is in the comics, just be patient! this was the early years. the movie makes everything more realistic. i mean, wouldn't u be depressed for quite a while if ur good old Uncle Ben was wrongfully murdered and u have a responsibility that's been keeping u from ur true love?
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