View Full Version : who do you think should be the next villain in spider-man 3?
origin8762
06-22-2004, 09:35 AM
I think venom should be the next villian that spider-man faces in spider-man 3. If there ever is one.
WebHead003
06-22-2004, 04:40 PM
I think the villian in spiderman 3 should be hobgoblin(sp?). This can futher explain harry's hate for spiderman and with him becoming what his father was would do nicely.
Webrina1
06-22-2004, 04:52 PM
Welcome to this site.:D
merry2004
06-22-2004, 04:55 PM
I think the next villian should be GG2 or the Lizard. Welcome to the boards!:)
shintobi
06-23-2004, 04:25 AM
Definitely the Lizard. He is a tragic character and much more worthy of a story than the cosmic oil slick, Venom.
spidey30m2
06-23-2004, 06:01 AM
i think the hobgoblin should be the next spiderman villian. Some people suggest venom but I think that would kill the spiderman movies. He's just not a good character to put in there right now. Kraven should be considered before venom . they could do the whole kravens last hunt story.
Spiderman Bartholomew Jones
06-23-2004, 06:52 AM
Mabey thye could do what they did with Batman.Give the hero 2 villians to fight.But he needs a sidekick....Black cat.i think venom and carnage at the same time fighting spiderman would be bad cause they are more powerful put together.maybe it could be venom and Kraven the Hunter
Jamesgodawgs
06-23-2004, 07:19 AM
I'm a little late... welcome! :D
Elvis 72
06-23-2004, 07:33 AM
I think this movie is setting up Harry being the Goblin and the Lizard. I would love to see Venom but I read Sam said that He didn't like the character. So I will be shock to see Venom in any Spidey movie that Sam Rami does.
tobeymaguire04
06-23-2004, 08:27 AM
I want to see Venom too, but I bet that Sam Raimi makes the villain the Green Goblin, only this time it's Harry Osbourne.
tobeymaguire04
06-23-2004, 08:29 AM
By the way, Spider-Man 3 is said to hit the box office on May 4, 2007!!! ;)
Webrina1
06-23-2004, 12:03 PM
WHY Not 2006..........DECEMBER 2006? AH.:(
amurley
06-23-2004, 12:11 PM
The next villan(s) should be the lizard (as it has been mentioned) or the sinister six.
Webrina1
06-23-2004, 12:45 PM
YEAh, but Tobey and Kirsten won't do it..........they can't see past three.:(
Hidomatzu
06-23-2004, 02:11 PM
Hi all. I personally would love to see Kraven. Besides being almost normal and a match for Spidey he would make a great screen character. Actually he would be easy to write in and this would be his greatest hunt, trying to capture Spidey for the Daily Bugle.
Webrina1
06-23-2004, 02:16 PM
He can't hunt rabbits......how can he get 'Spidey........Welcome to the boards.:D
Hybr!d
06-23-2004, 10:32 PM
It Might be Hobgoblin
Although I hope so much to see the appearance of Venom in the third movie, but I'm afraid Hobgoblin might be the most suitable villian for the third installment. IF Harry knows to truth of his dad's death, I'm sure he's going to be so mad and turns Osborns to Goblins ...
and It comes to the end of the relationships of Harry and Peter....
Anyway, we wouldn't know how the story gonna continue till we watched the second movie...
JADED1
06-24-2004, 07:08 AM
i completly agree venom would be the best villian for the next spiderman movie. but i feel he should also encounter the kingpin. that would set it up for a spiderman and daredevil movie.
Shenron
06-24-2004, 07:23 AM
I heard that Toby and Kirstin are waiting to see how the 3 turn out maybe have a break then start them up again. But Venom is way to early to appear. Part of him that made him so good was that he came late after many villans and showed to be a more dangerous and crazy than the previous villans.
Webrina1
06-24-2004, 12:03 PM
WELCOME JARED! To the site!
matt convoy
06-24-2004, 07:28 PM
green or hob goblin because harry finds his fathers suit and glider at the end of spiderman 2
tobey_peter_spid
06-24-2004, 09:58 PM
i totally think they should go for venom
origin8762
06-25-2004, 09:21 AM
Yeh, I do think the next villian should be Lizard in the next spider-man 3 villian. Don't you Guy's agree.:confused:
jswalker
06-25-2004, 06:22 PM
Originally posted by origin8762
Yeh, I do think the next villian should be Lizard in the next spider-man 3 villian. Don't you Guy's agree.:confused:
I think it could be either, with Connors making an appearance, it might play into the next one, or they could possibly use the next movie to elaborate on connors before he becomes the lizard, as in foreshadowing. It depends on what they do in this movie. Obviously, if Harry knows who spider-man is, then we can kiss the real green goblin good bye. But if I am correct, originally, wasn't someone else the hobgoblin?? Not Harry, although I know in the cartoon on FOX it was harry, but I'm not sure if that is how it went originally.
Aufklarung
06-25-2004, 07:04 PM
In todays TV spot, it appears as if harry will unmask spider-man and drop the dagger.
What is this I hear of Kraven or another Goblin? Boooooorrrrinngggg...Kraven doesn't leave a lasting impression (since not many of us know who he is nor do we care) and another Goblin is one Goblin too many. I have seen enough goblins in LOTR.
The Lizard? Oh please...to non fans like me, we have seen enough of big green mutants. Dr. Oct however he very original and unique so he works well. I liked this crazy dude alot.
If Spider Man 3 is the last movie then Sony should go with Venom. Now this is one awesome looking BAD-***! Venom is so popular even non fans know who he is. In Spider Man 2 I will be looking for Eddie Brock to make a cameo (or at least named again) and John Jameson to say "I'm going to NASA".
VENOM all the way!
arachnid-kid
06-25-2004, 09:41 PM
Lizard + Green Goblin 2 = Spider-man 3.
I believe the script writers from Spider-man 2 are returning for Spider-man 3. I'm sure they could develop a wonderful script combining the Green Goblin 2 and Lizard storylines into a well balanced, exciting plot.
jswalker
06-26-2004, 08:22 AM
Originally posted by arachnid-kid
Lizard + Green Goblin 2 = Spider-man 3.
I believe the script writers from Spider-man 2 are returning for Spider-man 3. I'm sure they could develop a wonderful script combining the Green Goblin 2 and Lizard storylines into a well balanced, exciting plot.
I can see this happening, it would be quite an emotional quandry for Parker. Fighting his best friend in harry, and his mentor in connors. I think having both of them would be the only way to not overplay the whole goblin thing. Heck, just seeing Harry acting evil in this film is awesome.
decemberflower
06-29-2004, 01:42 PM
it soooo going to be hobgobblin (sp wrong) because if harry does unmask spidey then he will see peter and who knows the truth about his dad and he will want to follow in dads footsteps and get back at peter for lying and hiding this secret from him. but i woul like too see harry (yummy...so beautiful) get eviler, if thats even a word. but then again to many gobblins can be overwhelming. hmmm maybe venom because he seems like an easy character to write in. i dunno who id want but im pretty sure hobgobblin is going to be the next villian
decemberflower
06-29-2004, 01:43 PM
ahhh i cant decide who id want
KarNa8e
06-29-2004, 01:55 PM
i think it oughta be me! -- carnage
or maybe that guy elijah wood- god he's irritating! ha!
merry2004
06-29-2004, 03:15 PM
I hope it's not Venom!!!
Spider-Girl_S20780
06-29-2004, 06:52 PM
I think they should Have Spider-Woman in the third Movie....
SpIdEy2007
06-29-2004, 07:13 PM
More than likely it will be the Green Goblin 2. But if they do make Harry as the Green Goblin like in the comic series I think that they should make his coustume different. The last one was stupid.
Spider-Girl_S20780
06-29-2004, 07:33 PM
Originally posted by SpIdEy2007
More than likely it will be the Green Goblin 2. But if they do make Harry as the Green Goblin like in the comic series I think that they should make his coustume different. The last one was stupid.
Now if they did it that way then how will have Venom? or Spider-Woman??
Now if they did it that way then how will have Venom? or Spider-Woman??
Spider-Girl
1Spider-Man
06-29-2004, 07:44 PM
VENOM!!!!!
zlex2004
06-29-2004, 09:28 PM
There is no better villian than Venom, I think they should put him on, but without talking, sometimes movies ruin the villian when they talk to much. It makes them looks more scary that way. But he has to be a little more diabolic, for example, like remember the Spawn movie, when that fat guy turns into that devil, he reminded me of Venom, they should make him something like that but looking more like Venom. I didn't like those villians on the poll at the site. I hope they dont put none of them. VOTE FOR VENOM!!!!!!!!!!!! :|
zlex2004
06-29-2004, 09:38 PM
I heard somebody say that is too soon for venom to appear, you're maybe right, They can still put another villian but they should show Venom still maybe for like 10 minutes before the movie ends, just to have people buggin out and wanting to see part 4. They be like oh my god, who was that? Since he's more dangerous than the other villians he should appear but beating up spider man and then vanish. I mean I just dying to see how he would look like in a movie.
izerb
06-30-2004, 12:45 AM
well hate to spoil it but it will be the hobgolin is in the next installment(just saw the movie). I hope that the lizzard will not be involved in the next one. The lizzard is second to the vulture in the worst villans ever.
Zero_Mage
06-30-2004, 03:17 AM
Why does everyone keep wanting a goblin, they did it once, in the first movie, it's been done...
Also
Harry is the GREEN goblin not the hobgoblin.
Shenron
06-30-2004, 04:54 AM
After seeing the reply its quite obvious its harry as the green goblin
Kayaki
06-30-2004, 07:04 AM
Contrary to the popular opinion on this site, the symbiotes would add a dazzling effect to an already awesome display of special effects and filming techniques. Personally, i would like to see carnage, but carnage cannot be put in till venom is done. There could be a movie that had the two of them both represented in it, and would begin with the space craft crash, which brought the symbiote to earth in the first place. Then the symbiote bonds to spider man and is taken off by supersonic waves. Bonds with eddie brock who goes after spider man, thrown in jail, blah blah blah, and along comes carnage. It would be a long movie, but i gaurentee that more people would come to see venom and carnage than hobgoblin or lizard man. The CGI on carnage would be awesome also, and would have to be a breakthrough for the computer animation industry, with all of the random movement and such. So there, the reasnons why venom and carnage would be the best to see in a spider man film.
Plus: sho else want to munch on spidey's brains...
C/LCDRWebHed
06-30-2004, 07:22 AM
I dont think its a question. Venom, hands down, defiantly should be the villian to end the "Spidey Trilogy". It would be the kind of sequal they would be looking for because to creat Venom would demmand tons of special FX, and thats what the Spider-Man films are about. In my opinion, it would- with a good story line ofcourse-beat out the 1st and 2nd Spidey movies.
Spider-Girl_S20780
06-30-2004, 07:40 AM
I Still Say Spider-Woman because it's Peter Parker's Runner Up if you would Like to Say......:o
blazingr3d
06-30-2004, 08:22 AM
I think they should make a movie where theres Venom and Carnage in like alot of scenes but in another part of the movie all happening at the same time Hob Goblin (Harry or Green Goblin 2) would be in other scenes and BlackCat or Daredevil would show up helping Spiderman, or not just an idea.. but then after all that, if they dont team up with daredevil, in the end Spiderman meets daredevil and its like "To be continued" Part 4... Tell me if u like the idea:confused:
abbyluvsspidey
06-30-2004, 08:58 AM
i think the next villian be venom but what happened to that red other evil spiderman?
venomiscool
06-30-2004, 12:20 PM
Let me burst some bubbles...NO RETURN OF THE GREEN GOBLIN...Harry finds out that Peter is Spiderman in SM2, so he will become the HobGoblin, not the GREEN *** Goblin...and John Jameson the astronaut being left at the alter by MJ will lead to the character of venom when he goes into space! Mark my words, even though Sam doesnt like Venom's character, Venom will be in the 3rd Spiderman because it is going to end the trilogy and you cant end a trilogy without the biggest baddest craziest villain in the Spiderman Comics History!
RedRedKrovy
06-30-2004, 12:21 PM
I would love to see Venom and Carnage in the next Spider-Man movie. These two have always been my favorite comic book villians. I hope the producers and directors pay attention to these message boards.
DOC OCK 2
06-30-2004, 04:44 PM
Okay of what I heard there will be a Spiderman 3 so I think that Venom and Carnage should be the main bad guy. At the end I wont give away sense all of you may not have seen it but it gives a hint to a certain bad guy (green and in movie 1) I only have one thing to say about it and it is I dont want another Goblin in any upcoming movie.
Iron/Maiden
06-30-2004, 05:04 PM
Hi everybody! Venom would be perfect for the next movie. That whole symbiote thing going on with Spidey and Venom might be complicated to write though, but the writing for Spiderman 2 was brilliant and they could do it.
dark_mullet
06-30-2004, 06:21 PM
A lot of people are saying Lizard and GG2. However, there are many fans of Venom here. But a couple things are very true.
With the exception of Todd MacFarlene's "Poison"(?) mini-series, the Lizard hasn't really been one of Spdey's worst foes. I can see Lizard in the next film, but as a small role.
GG2 or the Hobgoblin seems like the best bet without a doubt.
venom would be awesome, but the key to Venom is that he showed up later in Spidey's career. I would vote for Venom is Spidey 4 or 5 (if the series goes that far).
Spyda17
06-30-2004, 07:58 PM
ok guys who do u think will be in the next s-m3 movie? theres a poll at the top
Spyda17
06-30-2004, 08:15 PM
hey y dont you also (if you vote) why dont u type y u think that character will be in the third movie i know it might be demanding but i just wanna hear what u guys think.
spideyfan328
06-30-2004, 08:17 PM
There are so many ways they can go! I think definately the Hobgoblin... duh. And they brought Dr. Connors into the picture in the this one, so maybe the Lizard. Then Venom maybe because the astronaut was mad at the alter.
Jr5spd
06-30-2004, 08:20 PM
I deff. think its either going to be HobGoblin or Venom. Im leaning towards hob goblin though because harry was a main focus in the movie.
sixers0408
06-30-2004, 09:29 PM
im praying for venom to be im one of them but definately hob goblin no doubt will be in the third but the lizard is also a very good choice but in the comic book the lizard was in FL dont know what will happen but i think they will regret it if they dont put venom in and out in the lizard for a fourth if ever a 4th.
Ricer
06-30-2004, 09:32 PM
Ummm... why isn't the Green Goblin up there? The Hobgoblin wasn't Harry in the SpiderMan universe. Harry gives birth to a new and more sinister Green Goblin.
I think that the stage has been set for BOTH the Lizard and the Green Goblin, but please Sam do it right!
webslingerj
06-30-2004, 09:40 PM
Ditto for the above post. Green Goblin should be on the list. There was no indication of a Hobgoblin
Bloodyninjafist
06-30-2004, 09:57 PM
i'd say venom and hob also but then its kinda tricky to see them both in the 3rd. they both demand so much spotlight for their story. it would be really hard to fit both in the last movie. unless its 4 hours long or something.
I see those two he left a pissed off groom on an alter and a best friend also.
by the way anyone think it would be cool to have a deadpool movie. haha
webslingerj
06-30-2004, 10:00 PM
From the cliffhangers in SM2 it looks like the lineup is Sandman, Electro, the Shocker and the Beetle. This one is gonna be off the chizzain yo.
Redarachnid
06-30-2004, 10:01 PM
People still don't know the difference between Hobgoblin and the second Green Goblin.
The film indicates that the Green Goblin will return - not Hobgob.
I also think Ock will be back. I hope he will. I can't get enough of him. Ock is THE BOMB!!
I seriously don't know why people think Venom can be done in the next film. Venom's backstory cannot be told in one film. No way. It cannot be told WELL - let's put it that way. Venom deserves two films at the very least - and that is why we might not see him for a while, if at all - it depends. Is this gonna be a trilogy or more (?)
not2sure
06-30-2004, 10:07 PM
either hobgolin, green goblin or lizard.
SPOLIER...
green goblin because of harrys discovery of the room where all the green goblins stuff are
hobogoblin beause harry might give the green goblin gear to a thief(hvnt read the comics so i dnt no)
lizard...i have read that the dr connors fellow is him dunno could b a hint
Bloodyninjafist
06-30-2004, 10:07 PM
Originally posted by jswalker
I think it could be either, with Connors making an appearance, it might play into the next one, or they could possibly use the next movie to elaborate on connors before he becomes the lizard, as in foreshadowing. It depends on what they do in this movie. Obviously, if Harry knows who spider-man is, then we can kiss the real green goblin good bye. But if I am correct, originally, wasn't someone else the hobgoblin?? Not Harry, although I know in the cartoon on FOX it was harry, but I'm not sure if that is how it went originally.
yeah im not 100% posotive but i think in the story it was some convict who escaped and found all the stuff and he went as hobgoblin but died and the harry took it. im not sure while since i read it. if you wanna be 100 percent correct check marvel.com under the character bios it might be there
Ricer
06-30-2004, 10:08 PM
If the Spidey films are to continue, Venom will not be in SP3. Simply put Brock hasn't been introduced and built up like Dr Connors aka the Lizard nor Harry aka the Green Goblin have been. Bringing in Venom just to have Venom will kill the storyline. Seeing Stan has some input in this, I'm pretty confident that without more introduction, Venom will be on the back burner
Ricer
06-30-2004, 10:11 PM
Redarachnid,
Thanks for posting tonight too. I feel like I've stepped into the Twilight Zone of Marvel. I can't believe people have gotten the second Green Goblin (Harry) sooooo confused with the Hobgoblin. Just shocks me!
Miraba
06-30-2004, 10:37 PM
Originally posted by not2sure
hobogoblin beause harry might give the green goblin gear to a thief(hvnt read the comics so i dnt no)
Going with movie motivations, I think that Harry would want to get revenge personally, not shove it onto someone else. After all, he knows who SM is now and how to get at him.
Smochie1
06-30-2004, 10:48 PM
Hobgoblin was a crimial which stole from Osborn the orignal green gob to form hob gob... Lets not mix it up... Harry's version of the Green Goblin should make things more intresting. I think they might end up with 2 villians instead of one 1) the Lizard.. which was more a mission of compassion for spidey if you ever read the comics and 2) the new Green Goblin. If they were to do Venom they would have to explian where the Symbote came from to explain venom and why his spider sense will not work around venom and other things... It is great to be a comic fan and watch the movie.. but if you followed the comic, you will know the lenghts they would have to go thru... And Sam Rami knows this.. He wil simplyfy the movies while keeping the story line fresh
Hudson_99
06-30-2004, 10:49 PM
I have Alot to say so here it is.
1st Hob-Goblin as a Baddy-Very slim Harry rebelled against the Goblin remember?
2nd I like the Idea of the Astronaut left at the alter becoming Venom it is very possible,BUt the thing is I hear the Director hates Venom. OMG
3rd The others are possible but i think Venom and Carnage (together) is the best!)
spiderfanluvsmj
07-01-2004, 12:30 AM
according to E! The Spidey's next foes are Green Goblin, Black Cat (played by Eliza Dushku-HOTTIE!!!), and a little something that was brought back from outerspace
PacoC
07-01-2004, 12:56 AM
Well, definately Green Goblin, and a second I don't know, but its not Venom nor Carnage. These last two need more than one movie, they should introduce Eddie Brock in the third film, then leading him into the fourth installment. Atleast thats how I see it. They should plan it out carefully. Venom and Carnage were the best villans and deserve to be in it, if not, just Venom, Carnage was toooooo crazy in the comics and might need more careful planning on the storyline on including Carnage aswell, nontheless it would of been great having it all out. They're both the greatest villans ever, Spider Man ever faced. So, yea, Venom should come out on the fourth, but not the third, its too soon for that.
SAPONEE
07-01-2004, 02:17 AM
Hey what about the Beetle, Electro, Chameleon, Sand Man, Kazar the Hunter, and the Vulture?
I wish they would make a Spidey movie ever month...I would love that.
I can't wait for 2007.
SAPONEE
07-01-2004, 02:35 AM
Venom fought Spidey later.
I think it should be the Lizard or the Vulture, Rhino, or one of his earliar villians.
ezekiel79
07-01-2004, 03:55 AM
What about the Man-wolf??
John Jameson has already been introduced, and the gaining of his wolf powers wouldn't require a lot of backstory retelling (I think he got it from a gem he discovered on the moon or something?)
Add to that, he would no doubt be peeved at Peter for stealing his bride.... The story practically writes itself :] Just a thought anyway!
bigfoot1563
07-01-2004, 04:12 AM
From the way Spidey 2 ended it looks like it sets up for the second Green Goblin or on a smaller level the Lizard. Personally I don't think the second goblin would be good for their marketing unless they do two villians in the next movie but I dont think sam would do that. Venom I would love to see but the story could not be told in one movie unless for some reason sam bypassed the alien symbiote taking spidey as its first host (seeing as how he has taken great liberties with ock and the first goblin). Personally I hope that Sam finds some way to compress the story to include venom but not if it harms the story or character.
ezekiel79
07-01-2004, 04:22 AM
Venom would be an awesome villain, no doubt about that, but to bring him into the story would be inconsistent with the previous movies and would force them to put a sci-fi spin on the whole movie series. That is unless they took great liberty with the whole Venom concept and make it a non-alien, but then what would be the point of that? I think Harry returning as the Green Goblin will make for an interesting story...!
DarcMind
07-01-2004, 06:21 AM
Originally posted by Redarachnid
People still don't know the difference between Hobgoblin and the second Green Goblin.
The film indicates that the Green Goblin will return - not Hobgob.
I also think Ock will be back. I hope he will. I can't get enough of him.Ock is THE BOMB!!
I seriously don't know why people think Venom can be done in the next film. Venom's backstory cannot be told in one film. No way. It cannot be told WELL - let's put it that way. Venom deserves two films at the very least - and that is why we might not see him for a while, if at all - it depends. Is this gonna be a trilogy or more (?) u can put venom in the story wanna no y??
surfiiinsafari
07-01-2004, 11:15 AM
I would want to see the GG2, the Lizard and maybe the Black cat
Darcmind, I wanna know how? :)
Ghost_One
07-01-2004, 11:37 AM
I think the villian should be Johnny Deep as a Charley "Left Foot" Lopez. He'll be a pirate with one leg and a hook and he can mimic powers...like spidermans.....
seeker515
07-01-2004, 01:40 PM
*** possible spoilers***
... only if you haven't seen the movie
I think they have made it pretty clear that Harry Osborne will become the new Greeen Goblin.
I also believe the Lizard (Dr. Connors) will play a part, although I'm not sure if the Lizard will have a large role in Spider-Man 3, or if they will just hint at what is to come next in Spider-Man 4 (like how Harry found his fathers Green Goblin stash at the end of Spider-Man 2).
But, I'm worried about having two villains in the same movie. I guess it's just because of how the Batman movies went downhill that way.
Still, I bet if anyone could pull it off, its Sam Raimi. He's done such a good job with the other two movies.
Spider-Girl_S20780
07-01-2004, 05:37 PM
Originally posted by spiderfanluvsmj
according to E! The Spidey's next foes are Green Goblin, Black Cat (played by Eliza Dushku-HOTTIE!!!), and a little something that was brought back from outerspace
Ok if they said that Why didn't they say Spider-Woman???
Spider-Woman is Spider-Man Biggest Foe!! At Least Thats What my People on my Fourm say...and What I say Because She is Like Peter In Many Ways!!!
Spider-Girl
BuLletTiMeDoGgy7
07-01-2004, 07:38 PM
The villain for one of the upcoming Spider-man movies should be Venom. They have to do something with Harry and the goblin suit b/c of the spider-man 2 ending, so he should be a side villain and Venom should definitly be the main. When i was watching the first Spider-man until this day i thought Venom would look awesome in one of these movies. Venom would be a long story though b/c of how he got his powers. If i'm right he got it for some special something (i'm not sure what) from space that both wanted to kill Spider-man and then the movie would have to explain WHY the suit wanted to kill Spider-man and where it came from. If that is right then they would probably want to change the story a little,but that could cause some people to get disappointed. At the end when Spider-man is fighting Venom, Harry should come with the goblin suit and fight against Spider-man with Venom.. All I gotta say is Venom should be the main villain in at least one of the next Spider-man movies. By the way, Spider-man 2 was GREAT.
GreenGoblin1138
07-01-2004, 09:43 PM
[SIZE=4]Ok... Guys...you have to see the movie then youll know what im talking about...at the very end of the movie im like 90% positive that Harry Osborn is gonna be the villan!!trust me!
DJ Spiderbite
07-02-2004, 12:24 PM
They should do lizard and GG2 of course cause they are already in sm2 and at the end but jus to stirr things up they should put electro in commision and just for a spidey allie they should let the black cat come in just for kicks though i think that this would be a too complicated movie hehe
tpoet22
07-02-2004, 07:52 PM
Part 2 seems to set up a return of the Green Goblin in some form or another. Everyone says that this particular "series" is a trilogy, so with all the many different villians in the mythos, does it make sense to bring back a villian that is already been used, even if it is in a different way? Of course the series may go on with different actors and directors, but perhaps there will be two villians in part 3?
Zadakh
07-02-2004, 08:13 PM
I think the third has to be a favorite to everybody like Doc Ock. Or a one of his very tough enemys like the symbiotes(Venom/Carnage)
Tony Stark
07-02-2004, 08:57 PM
It's possible they could add a second villian. They've already introduced Doc Conners.
Arachkid
07-02-2004, 09:01 PM
Originally posted by tpoet22
Part 2 seems to set up a return of the Green Goblin in some form or another. Everyone says that this particular "series" is a trilogy, so with all the many different villians in the mythos, does it make sense to bring back a villian that is already been used, even if it is in a different way? Of course the series may go on with different actors and directors, but perhaps there will be two villians in part 3?
Well, in the first movie, it was his friend's dad who was the villain. In the second, it was his scientific idol. In the third, it will be his best <and only male, that I know of> friend.
LaraBara
07-02-2004, 09:19 PM
Man, if they don't show either Man-Spider, or Venom, I'll be very upset ;).
webslingerj
07-02-2004, 09:24 PM
Originally posted by Arachkid
Well, in the first movie, it was his friend's dad who was the villain. In the second, it was his scientific idol. In the third, it will be his best <and only male, that I know of> friend.
Speaking of best friends, what the he!! was up with that in the movie. MJ claimsPete as her best friend. Then Harry claims Pete is his best friend and ß!t¢h slaps him in the same scene. How strange and melodramatic those scenes were.
timteezy
07-02-2004, 09:26 PM
It should be the hobgoblin.But I will be pissed if they dont have one with Venom
spider_gurl_1989
07-02-2004, 10:49 PM
i think it will be harry(with his dads "spirits" help, cuz they would not put that in for no aperent resason!
opossum1986
07-02-2004, 11:25 PM
its pretty obvious as to who the new "bad guy(s)" will be its all a matter of will i tbe both the lizard and the goblin or just the goblin bc i cant see them doing a movie and leaving harry out of itw/o bringing in the goblin soo the goblins in and i think so is the lizard.
ILoveTobeyM._15
07-02-2004, 11:40 PM
I think their gonna go with bringing the green goblen back coz thats what happened in the comic book, Sam Raimi like to stay with the comic book. Also in the third one the Lizard sopose to be in it also black cat. And the reason Harry slaps Peter is because hes drunk, duh. If he was sober he wouldnt slap his best friend.
seedofsymbiote
07-03-2004, 03:03 AM
Since most movie series die after the third one now would be the greatest time to bring out one of Spidey's most powerful enemies like Venom. The action scenes would be undenablely awesome. If the series ends at three and their hasn't been a Venom siting there will be alot of pissed fans. why would sony do it to themselves?
the miles park
07-04-2004, 11:06 AM
aight. i am most definetly for venom. he isnt really an easy character to wright in actually...they need jamison to go to NASA and then venom gets on there ship and they crash...spiderman needs a new costume so he goes to this costume machine and somehow gets venom cought onto him to form a new black costume...venom starts trying to take control so spiderman gets rid of him (with the help of the fantastic four) and so venom now hates spiderman and goes to a church to hide...in the meantime eddie brock gets fired from his job at the newspaper for making a false article i think about spiderman. from this he lost his wife and a few other things. he now eternally hates spiderman and then goes into a church (same as venom) to pray or something and finds the venom alien and they bond to create the huge bad-*** spiderman clone. so yeah...they may need to do some re-editing to fit him in a little better if they want him in the third film. but never-the-less. it would be very much awesome to see him and/or carnage in the third (but i doubt carnage because carnage is venoms son...sort of).
anyways a few more things to clear up...HOBGOBLIN AND GREEN GOBLIN ARE TWO TOTALY DIFFERENT CHARACTERS. i had a hard time understanding it myself but heres why:
hobgoblin is actually a roderick kingsley. Kingsley is a fashion designer who used questionable and ruthless business practices, Roderick developed a financial empire that reached far beyond the fashion industry. Unsatisfied with conventional methods of doing business, Roderick searched for and found the original Goblin formula. After modifying the formula in a manner that he hoped would avoid the insanity side effect, he found that it gave him strength nearly equivalent to that of his arch-enemy, Spider-Man.
so basically he turned himself into hobgoblin to rule the fashion empire...HAHAHAHAHA. alright i think i posted long enough. VENOM ALL THE WAY!!!
blue spiderman
07-04-2004, 06:59 PM
the villian in the next movie should be either venom or the sandman:cool:
spidey-fan182
07-04-2004, 08:59 PM
I think it is way to early to write in a character like venom and carnage altho they would be the most exciting to see in a spidey movie. The most obvious choice for the writers, and easiest to follow the story line is gg2 or the lizard, and it would be great to see them both but i dont know if it would be enough for the non fans especially if there is nothing after spidey 3!!
ed brock
07-05-2004, 01:21 AM
Whats up people as u can tell I'm a venom fan but even I know that he want be in three I feel that it'll be the hobgoblin but it's not going to be harry his using someone to test the serum and weapons first and it have another villian added like the lizard who'll have his own plans for city like mutating everone.:D
Jamesgodawgs
07-05-2004, 12:01 PM
I would like to see the Lizard, and Harry becoming Green Goblin 2.
thegreengoblin2
07-05-2004, 12:58 PM
I would like too see harry becoming the green goblin 2 and venom also probably carnage!
venom+green goblin 2+carnage=Spiderman 3
homerguy71
07-05-2004, 05:51 PM
venom without a doubt the only way i would want to see goblin is if they changed the costume to look like hobgoblin even the he should be a subplot
Midon
07-05-2004, 10:09 PM
I think the 3rd should be GG2 and lizard man. They turn out to be too powerful for spidey. But then he finds the suit and turns into the black spiderman and defeats both villians. At the end of the movie he gets rid of the suit, thinking he killed it, but Brock finds the suit and turns into Venom leading into the 4th (and what should be the final) movie
Spider-Girl_S20780
07-06-2004, 09:03 AM
Well In the Game Spider-Man2 They Have Black Cat,Blue Rino,And More...Soo What About Blue Rino And the Other Classic Foes?
SPIDER-A.P
07-06-2004, 09:17 AM
Originally posted by origin8762
I think venom should be the next villian that spider-man faces in spider-man 3. If there ever is one.
I think the next villian should be lizard:)
DoughBoy101088
07-06-2004, 10:33 AM
I think Venom should and probably will be the next bad guy.
ixfiji
07-07-2004, 12:30 AM
I think Michael Moore should be Spiderman's next victim.
J.Jonah Jameson
07-07-2004, 01:54 AM
(VENMON)
I think this will complete the trilogy real good and I'm sure there will be great battle scenes!
Bring on eddie brock
Spideyfan2k4
07-07-2004, 09:36 PM
you forgot about Shocker!!
tobeysgurl_12
07-07-2004, 11:40 PM
i'm sure it's probably going to be Harry Osborn as the Goblin...you know why? remember in the last part of the movie? he was being haunted by his father urging him to be Goblin and deafeat Peter Parker!!! ;) Im sure of it.....
blackwidow81
07-08-2004, 12:21 AM
well of course it will be the "gobby" even in the comic book harry took over his fathers postion, personally i think that they should also bring in a minor charactered villan, such as, well im not sure who. but you called it (cough cough).;)
blackwidow81
07-08-2004, 12:53 AM
all of you have excellent suggestions! i really think G.G is gonna be next but a minor secondary villan should be added, im pulling for a rewritten version of the black widow, (hmmm) but she should be killed off earlier on so the focus is around harry (who's NOT the hob goblin b.t.w). venom would be kewl, but that's not gonna happen.
jellyspiderman
07-08-2004, 09:40 AM
venom hands down
jellyspiderman
07-08-2004, 09:57 AM
if they make another goblin they're wrecking the series
Nail_Bunny
07-08-2004, 10:32 PM
well. there were 2 goblins in the series. the Hob Goblin and the Green Goblin....so, you know that there is gonna be the hob goblin in there, somewhere. making another goblin wouldnt ruin it, it would just be going by the story line
Shenron
07-09-2004, 07:05 PM
I know green goblin will be in the next one but even though it looked like he will be. Wont he realise why spiderman killed him because he was bad? And when is father was urging him to get revenge he through the knife and as he said revenge me and yelled No. So maybe he wont??????
Spidergurl4302
07-09-2004, 07:40 PM
i think there are going to be 2 villians harry as the green goblin2 or hobgoblin and the lizard and the black cat to help spider-man fight them and complicate peter and mjs relationship
Alpha Squad Reaper
07-10-2004, 08:32 AM
Originally posted by Nail_Bunny
well. there were 2 goblins in the series. the Hob Goblin and the Green Goblin....so, you know that there is gonna be the hob goblin in there, somewhere. making another goblin wouldnt ruin it, it would just be going by the story line
corection there were 3 TYPES of goblins. green, hob and demon. there are 4 green goblins, 2 (i think) of hobs and 1 demon.
Webrina1
07-10-2004, 09:42 AM
I want HArry and Ock! VERY VERY bad!
Shenron
07-11-2004, 03:27 AM
What i think would be cool for the the movie is that spidey gets the symbiot from john jamerson and uses it because it makes him stronger but when john finds out peter the person who took MJ is spiderman he stumbles upon the suit and then become enemys with spiderman. Venom then causes some trouble and everyone thinks spiderman was the cause so then say the army and special operation teams are set to catch spiderman and he has to fight a huge army of humans trying to get him and manage the problems venom is causing and show he isnt the spiderlike person in the dark suit
SpideyJ11
07-12-2004, 10:58 PM
Not everything is going to be based on the comic-obviously as you can tell from both movies. When he is wearing the green tie, it gives off a sense of foreboding. They are not going to lie to us. The director even said that they would have Felicia Hardy in the third one (Back Cat). Well, why not? PP and MJ are together right? Why not bring some tension in the third movie? She is, after all, seductive towards PP. Maybe MJ can kick some bootay when BC is hitting on PP. But come now, Venom? You people are trying too hard. Lizard man I can see, but other than that......who knows. They say Doc Oct is coming back, but for sure? Who knows? Think about it, Harry is weak. Maybe he won't become Hobgoblin (and soooo not Green Goblin since that is what his dad was), but I think he will. After all, the ending sure tells us; the GREEN tie. :D
clay391
07-13-2004, 07:44 AM
You know, Im kinda wondering if they will bring Doc Ock back since they brought William Dafoe back for the sequel. Its an entire new ballgame for comic book adapted movies in the Spider-man series. I can't wait to see what 3 is going to be like or what rules they will break that the Batman movies have set. i.e. bring villians back for sequels, seems like the only ones in the batmovies that ever last for the entire 4 were alfred and commissioner gordon lol In Spider-man we will have Tobey, Kirsten, Aunt May, James Franko, William Dafoe (oh, and I bet we'll see alot of him too in the 3rd as well, probably only in the mirror though hehe sucks how those blades on a glider can hurt so bad, can't it, mean green bill hehe
Webrina1
07-13-2004, 09:59 AM
MERGE THIS THREAD........sike...........I don't mind......good thinking......Besides OCK wasn't impaled in the gut.....he just got all wet. LOL......:D
seeker515
07-13-2004, 10:05 AM
Originally posted by SpideyJ11
Harry is weak. Maybe he won't become Hobgoblin (and soooo not Green Goblin since that is what his dad was), but I think he will. After all, the ending sure tells us; the GREEN tie. :D
Harry will become Green Goblin because that's what his dad was. He wants to avenge his fathers death by the hands of Spider-Man. What better way than to become the Green Goblin himself.
Think about how that would freak Spider-Man out. Seeing a villain he killed coming at him. A villain who knows his secret identity, and as a result, can get to his family. Spidey didn't think he had to worry about the Goblin knowing that because he saw Norman die. But here the Goblin is, coming right at him.
He won't know it's Harry in the costume because Spidey doesn't know about the stash of goblin gear in the Osborn home.
And the green tie is a sign, but it is a sign that Harry will become the Green Goblin, not Hobgoblin.
Spidey wouldn't feel the same shock seeing a guy who in a way kind of looks like the dead Green Goblin coming at him as he would seeing the Green Goblin coming at him. That's why the writers and Sam Raimi wouldn't use Hobgoblin.
Spider-Man Wannabe
07-13-2004, 10:15 AM
Yeah, Harry becoming Hobgoblin makes no sense..
I hate when people say that..
yes i know harry becoming teh hobgoblin is dumb, but thats how movies work. you cant use the same villian, or else ppl will get confused. ppl know there is a hobgoblin, they will want to see him (im talking about non comic fans).
plus, they will want to use hobgoblin sometime, he was a great villian. id love to see them do hobgoblin.
and if they use harry to be the hobgoblin, then i dont mind.
but what if harry created the hobgoblin, and go someone else to kill spider-man for him? in stead of him becoming the goblin. or maybe he becomes the goblin later in the movie. so you have both goblins.
clay391
07-13-2004, 06:27 PM
everyone's forgetting Jack O' Lantern and Demogoblin hey!! they were great villians too but they make no sense as much as Hobgoblin does. And by the way, people are smart. The storyline behind using the green goblin again will wash away any confusion. Sam Raimi is smart and knows this. Ok. I wouldn't say a man who makes a very good scary movie (evil dead) his first try is a man that acts like hollywood. He will use the green goblin not hobgoblin. Just because it would confuse you, you shouldn't believe they would do it. I think it makes all the sense in the world to use green goblin again. I think its perfect.
Spider-Man Wannabe
07-13-2004, 09:53 PM
If they do make harry the Hobgoblin (which would be very, very silly) I wonder what he would look like..
cause the green goblin outfit was horrible :(
Frust
07-14-2004, 06:03 AM
a goblin again? that would be some mighty ****. I mean we saw that already and the first goblin also knew spidermans identity. With a green goblin again it would be the most boring movie ever. The only way would be to use more enemies, maybe green goblin & venom or something like that. I liked Venom the most.
seeker515
07-14-2004, 07:39 AM
Originally posted by Frust
a goblin again? that would be some mighty ****. I mean we saw that already and the first goblin also knew spidermans identity. With a green goblin again it would be the most boring movie ever.
How could that be boring? Harry knows Spider-Man's identity too, only this time with Harry as the Green Goblin, the Goblin hates Spider-Man. He blames Spidey for the death of his father. Just imagine how fierce and ferocious the Goblin's attacks on Spider-Man would be. It won't be your normal "villain fights hero because hero is in the way" battles. Harry's hate for Spider-Man is consuming him. It's all he can think about. Harry will be out for blood. He will be out to avenge the death of his father, and becoming the second Green Goblin, just like his father, will give him the means to do it himself.
Aufklarung
07-14-2004, 12:40 PM
I hope they show Eddie Brock :)
SpindelStrike
07-14-2004, 01:39 PM
Originally posted by mre
yes i know harry becoming teh hobgoblin is dumb, but thats how movies work. you cant use the same villian, or else ppl will get confused. ppl know there is a hobgoblin, they will want to see him (im talking about non comic fans).
plus, they will want to use hobgoblin sometime, he was a great villian. id love to see them do hobgoblin.
and if they use harry to be the hobgoblin, then i dont mind.
but what if harry created the hobgoblin, and go someone else to kill spider-man for him? in stead of him becoming the goblin. or maybe he becomes the goblin later in the movie. so you have both goblins. hey mre thats a freakin great idea! better then harry having his character changed.
OctoShock
07-15-2004, 05:48 PM
This may be off topic, but those who say it's the Lizard next because Dr. Connors was in 2, he didn't have a role, but Peter mentioned him in the first movie.
Harry: Are you all right? You look like you just got second place in the science fair.
Peter: No, I, uh-- I was late for work and Dr. Connors fired me.
Harry: You were late again?
Frust
07-16-2004, 01:45 AM
seeker515 it's good that people are not the same and think differently. that's how i see it: what could Harry as the green goblin do to Spiderman. kill his loved ones?(the first goblin tried that alread), kill spiderman?(also done already in the first movie). above all he would have the same abilities as the first goblin so where would be it any different? what does hate have to do with it? he would drink more then in the second movie? also Harry is a stupid prick and spineless unlike his father so you cant expect any good mind games. to end it, at the end Harry sayd NO to his father in the mirror and he's been a good friend to peter. I see more reasons for Harry to accept the truth then to hate Peter.
Hannibal_King
07-16-2004, 03:05 AM
You guys are forgetting that despite the green tie, when norman asked him to avenge his death, Harry screamed no and threw the knife thru the window. So essentially he made up his mind not to go after Peter BEFORE he even found out about his father being the GG. Now that's a good friend. But if GG2 does make an appearance sometime down the long line of spidey movies, I'd assume he'd look more like the original character with the rubber mask 'n all. The studio and Raimi (or what ever dir.) would wanna change it up to put a diff spin on the character, plus he'd be a lot more menacing. But this is my take.
seeker515
07-16-2004, 10:06 AM
Originally posted by OctoShock
This may be off topic, but those who say it's the Lizard next because Dr. Connors was in 2, he didn't have a role, but Peter mentioned him in the first movie.
He did have a role in the second movie. He was the professor who was missing an arm. He and Peter were talking on campus outside, and they kept using camera angels that showed his sleeve pinned up where his arm was missing.
Duke-Wintermaul
07-16-2004, 11:18 AM
harry is not the hobgoblin, a robber found gg's secret lair and took some of the stuff and turned himself into the hobgoblin
_SakuL_
07-16-2004, 01:39 PM
Harry Will go mad And Become gg2
spark19
07-17-2004, 01:13 AM
no, it cant be. i can guess harry would be spiderman's next villain but i dont think he would be a second green gob, that would be boring, it has to be a villain more monstrous looking than doc ock..
jeromemartin
07-17-2004, 02:58 AM
i think there would the lizard
black_cat42
07-17-2004, 05:49 PM
Yeah, or throw in the alien costume... very bad things. ;)
Arachnid-man
07-18-2004, 11:08 PM
I would hate to see hobgoblin as the next villain just because it would resemble the first movie. BORING !!!!!
hello... ehm... I guess there'll be 3 enemies in Spidey3... the lizard, green goblin2, and mj ex boyfriend! that's all i heard!:)
kinney2k4
07-19-2004, 03:40 AM
there were 4 green goblins
the next spider-girl
07-19-2004, 04:44 AM
Originally posted by OctoShock
This may be off topic, but those who say it's the Lizard next because Dr. Connors was in 2, he didn't have a role, but Peter mentioned him in the first movie.
Harry: Are you all right? You look like you just got second place in the science fair.
Peter: No, I, uh-- I was late for work and Dr. Connors fired me.
Harry: You were late again?
We actually talked about this in a thread not too long ago!
If you read back over what everyone has written most of them have made good points. It looks like Sam has left all his options open - he can take his pick of villians. He's got the astronaut - to bring in Venom, Dr Connors - to bring in the Lizard and hes got Harry to possible re-incarnate the Green Goblin. Sneaky!
SPlover
07-19-2004, 08:48 AM
They can't make Harry the next villain. How predictable!!! That would make the movie a complete disaster!!!!
Spidergurl4302
07-19-2004, 09:00 AM
its predictable but will be intresting plus the lizard will probally be the other villian so if harry as the GG2 doesnt work out theres always the lizard
cowgirl20
07-19-2004, 09:30 AM
i just think it will be the lizard but i am not sure if harry and peter will be friends anymore.:o
The Villain
07-19-2004, 09:46 AM
The Lizard with an introduction to Quentin Beck who in time will become Mysterio.
:cool:
heaven11
07-19-2004, 01:40 PM
i heard the villain would be lizard but i also heard rumours of venom...but spiderman 2 has a bunch of stuff in it that leads to big events...the whole losing his powers thing leads to kraven the hunter so we'll see wat they do...plus u got harry as green goblin which is actually a cool story
Mikex005x
07-19-2004, 02:45 PM
Its me again. I was reading some messages about whose going to be the villan and what not. And I have only read one answer. The truth is theres going to be 3 villans. for those of you who never read the comic books or saw the cartoons on the WB on saturday mornings. Why 3, well its simple. Harry will become the green goblin cause of what he found. Second it will be The Lizard, who well thats easy. peters teacher Doctor Conors, his science teacher with one arm who trys to grow it back using reptillian D.N.A and ends up turning himself into "The Lizard". And Contestant #3, I mean villan numero tres is Doc Ock. Thats right he will be returning in the third film also. We were left with thee asumption that he sunked all the
way down into the river. Now remember, we dont know exactly what does arms did to him when the chip got fried. If I'm right he'll return. I do know it there will be more than just one villan in the third, cause there will be the creation of the sinister six. 6 villans at one time. Also, we might being seeing Black Cat in the third one. my speculations is that black will Betty, Mr. Jamesons secretary. looks can be decieving. One thing is for sure I do want to see Venom. The Spider-Man Series wouldn't be the same without him.
-Gummi-
07-19-2004, 03:17 PM
I wan't to see Venom as next villain.. he's cool and stronger than Spider-man. I just remembered him in 90's Spider-man cartoons and I thot he was cool karacter, I want to se Peter transforme to the human-spider in the movies too, that would look cool.
spiderkam to the rescue
07-19-2004, 04:08 PM
In reply to everyone saying Harry as the gg2 will be boring - well u've got to remember this movie is for every1 and not just spidey fans and they might think its good! I dont think venom will be in the films for a while yet, i think they'll end with him.
zero41
07-19-2004, 09:32 PM
venom woul be a cool villian
Splater-man
07-20-2004, 01:35 AM
I like to see Harry as the Green Goblin and the Lizard in #3 and line it up for Venom and Carnage in #4.Carnage rock's
brenmar666
07-20-2004, 05:33 AM
Sure the more obvious choice would be harry coming as the hob goblin, BUT let us not forget that Dr. Conner has made his appearance in the movie as well and every spidey fan knows that Dr. Conner becomes the Lizard. SO it can be either or for the next installment of Spidey's wackey adventures.
:) Spidey fan for life!
heaven11
07-20-2004, 06:21 AM
in response to mike...theres no way they could pull off betty brant as black cat...its felicia hardy or not at all...you cant change have anyone else as black cat coz the way she got her powers is unique to her family (her father created the super serum used on captain america)
spiderman6150
07-20-2004, 06:56 PM
who do you think the next villan will be in in spiderman 3? i think it will be venom he would be the best in my opinon it would have mad special effects.
(I HOPE):D
sgarrettat
07-20-2004, 07:01 PM
People dont get it venom will not be in the next as a villain,
spiderman6150
07-20-2004, 07:03 PM
y is that
CableN
07-20-2004, 08:52 PM
Frankly I think its obvious that Harry is the Green Goblin and is wanting revenge. He's it. They probably can't fit two badys in one movie though. Time limit.
CableN
07-20-2004, 08:55 PM
It would be REALLY cool if they did the Chamealion, Vulture, under Green Goblin story. Y'know, the one where Peters parents come home. After all, Harry is the Green Goblin in that plot!
sgarrettat
07-20-2004, 09:00 PM
venom is just not gonna work and as for peter parents ocming back as robots i doubt will work. i mean in real life people dont come back i mean they do find bodies, well usually dont coem back
DMEN973
07-21-2004, 05:39 AM
Originally posted by CableN
Frankly I think its obvious that Harry is the Green Goblin and is wanting revenge. He's it. They probably can't fit two badys in one movie though. Time limit.
got too remeber MJ old bf he work for nasa maybe they can work around for venom for spiderman 4
SolaceCn
07-21-2004, 05:56 AM
I think it will be GG2 and the lizard
Mccloosk
07-21-2004, 07:06 AM
Everyone talks about the lizard as a villian he helps spiderman too you know ,, he will be their to help him for some even 2 on 2 fighting so the other villians will probably be goblin and venom and they all end up going against venom just because he is that crazy
fragled
07-21-2004, 07:32 AM
I would guarentee you the next villain will be the return of the green goblin. If memory serves, and I think it does, Harry comes back to avenge his father's death as the return of the green goblin... or was in jack o lantern that he comes back as? A mimic of the green goblin, but orange, not green.... ??? Now that, I don't remember.
fragled
07-21-2004, 07:47 AM
I had to really think about that one. Harry didn't have anything to do with Jack O Lantern's character. The identity and methods of the Hobgoblin were adopted by Jason Philip Macendale Jr., the mercenary formerly known as Jack O' Lantern. Duh.
pdlfc
07-21-2004, 09:53 AM
no its going to be harry comming back as the hob goblin because he doesnt want to be his father so he changes the suit :)
The Villain
07-21-2004, 10:25 AM
Mysterio was the villain who had a big connection to Jack O Lantern.
I have'nt read anywhere regarding Harry having a connection wick Jack.
:cool:
CS2004
07-22-2004, 12:23 PM
Harry Osborn will be the next Spiderman villian but NOT AS the Green Goblin. Does anyone remember the Hobgoblin(yellow instead of green and way meaner and stronger)Harry+$$$+Goblin suit=HobGoblin.I know Harry turns into the Green Goblin in the comics but Hobgoblin would make it a bit more interesting.
Spiderman 3:Hobgoblin+maybe Lizard
Spiderman 4:Venom maybe Carnage(he used the alian symbolite)
Spiderman 5?:Sinister 6
* Stan Lee can be seen in alomost every Marvel movie(I saw him in X-Men,X-2,Spiderman,Spiderman2,and The Hulk didnt see The Punisher)
DragonX150
07-22-2004, 04:55 PM
who do u think should be the next villian for the spider-man 3 movie?
ILoveTobeyM_15
07-22-2004, 10:12 PM
I want to see what James Franco can do with Green Goblin, I bet he'll do a great job, and also it would kick *** to see Harry and Peter fight each other!!
DragonX150
07-23-2004, 12:23 PM
Wow Green Goblin is beating Venom
Rumblemanj
07-23-2004, 02:13 PM
Which villian should be in Spider-man 3? Venom or Shocker. My opinion, I think Venom should in the third movie. But who do you think.
venom123456789
07-23-2004, 07:04 PM
venom yay! Hes coolest and better fit for a movie than shocker...
REDBIRDS
07-24-2004, 11:22 AM
Why?? Because from a producers' stand-point, and let's not forget they're trying to make$$ ie; merchandise sales, etc., introducing a "brain-eater" & "psycho-killer" could/would cause them to lose the "kid" audience. IF the "characters" are done right--true to the comics--they would be way too violent. ...And if they're too toned--down then alot of fans would be disappointed in that, too. But let's say the "real" versions of Venom & Carnage make it to the big-screen. Now you've got kids across the nation pleading, begging, crying, to go see the "new" Spidey-movie, and parents saying, "No!" Now THAT is an ugly-situation. So far, we've had Green Goblin--you could say an unfortunate victim of an accident; and Doc Ock--who actually becomes a "hero" in the end. How do you explain "Venom" to a (6) yr. old?? ...Or Carnage?? I'm just playing "devils' advocate" here. Any suggestions/ideas as to how Venom & Carnage can be done??
Aranea01
07-24-2004, 12:18 PM
I would like to see Mysterio in the next Spiderman movie. Should be a great special-effect movie. Also a nice opportunity for the makers of the movie to be creative :cool:
REDBIRDS
07-24-2004, 12:24 PM
MJ's career is developing and could very well lead her into the movies. ...And right into the range of ol' "bowl-head" himself. The special effects would be AWESOME!!
Aranea01
07-24-2004, 12:46 PM
yes, the special-effects and story schould be great and in the mean time Harry Osborn get's more grazy in the 3rd movie and wants more and more to revange his father so we will see him in Spiderman 4. And in that case I want to see two villians in Spiderman 4. Who schould be the second villian ??? any suggestions ??????
surfiiinsafari
07-24-2004, 12:54 PM
I would wanna see:
The Lizard!!
The Black cat
and The Green Goblin 2 (with a different costume than GG1, they should make it look more like the costume in the old comics)
REDBIRDS
07-24-2004, 07:43 PM
...And I'm not convinced that Harry is going to become anything. ie; Hobgoblin or G.G.2. I read somewhere that Dir. Raimi said he can take the character in (2) different directions. 1/ He does want/pursues revenge and never gives Peter a chance to explain what really happened w/his dad. Also keep in mind that G.G.'s "original" attack almost killed Harry & MJ as well. ...Or #2--He does get Peters' side of it and his anger "melts" away. Remember, when Harry sends "Ock" after Peter to find Spidey, he yells, "Don't HURT Peter. It'll be interesting to see which way they take him. I personally, am hoping to see Black Cat (friend or foe??) ...And cool villains would be Electro, Shocker, or Mysterio.
black_cat42
07-24-2004, 08:22 PM
It should be mainly the Lizard (Dr. Connors, what did you DO to yourself!!!) ;) with Harry (possibly as an inexperienced Green Goblin II), John Jameson, and Eddie Brock giving him hell. They should introduce the symbiote costume too so they can do Venom for number 4. :cool:
Jason Martell
07-24-2004, 10:51 PM
Originally posted by black_cat42
It should be mainly the Lizard (Dr. Connors, what did you DO to yourself!!!) ;) with Harry (possibly as an inexperienced Green Goblin II), John Jameson, and Eddie Brock giving him hell. They should introduce the symbiote costume too so they can do Venom for number 4. :cool:
Agreed!
elferoz
07-25-2004, 07:15 PM
harry will hook up with jamenson's son who is bitter because he lost mary jane and he will be the hobbgobblin. harry dont fit the role pyshically like jj jr does. making jj's son the villan gives him poetic justice for raking spiderman over the coals for no good reason. no doubt its gonna be some version of gobby in part 3, at first i just thought harry found the gobblin stuff and the only point of that was to let him know his father was the gobblin but in my opinion if that was the case they wouldnt have included the green formula/preformance enhancers, they would of just had the suit and maybe glider in the hidden room. so i think harry will use joanah's sons bitter anger to get him to take the preformance enhancers and seek revenge on spidey. just my opinion.
Webrina1
07-26-2004, 12:49 PM
BRING BACK OCK...............then have lizard and GG2 THREE villians for three!
black_cat42
07-26-2004, 04:24 PM
Yes! And throw in the black costume too! GG2, Ock, and Lizard in 3
Venom in 4. :cool:
spideyluver21
07-26-2004, 07:36 PM
i agree w/venom. dont get me wrong, Doc Ock was awesome, but having him be the villian again would be like Spiderman 2 all over again! o well thats just my opinion. ;)
the next spider-girl
07-26-2004, 07:41 PM
I'm not a big Shocker fan. But I'm not sure if we will see Venom in this one. Maybe set up for it and then see him in a 4th movie (still crossing my fingers for a 4th). And in the meantime, the Lizard and Harry as Green Goblin in the third movie.
Niralle
07-26-2004, 08:45 PM
There will probably be the Green Goblin (Harry) which will be interesting because we've seen that character develop, and that's important.
Um...I have to say Venom, even if other villians were availible for the poll. He has slightly different origins, and he looks so creepy.
Venom's story would probably have to be altered a little, though.
VampireSpike11
07-29-2004, 07:32 PM
Ok I see a lot of people talking about having the Hobgoblin as the enemy in Spiderman 3. I personally dont want to see that, I think it would kinda make the movie seem like dejavu lol. With the technology these days they can definately pull off making Venom. They already introduced Jamesons son into the storyline which in the cartoon brought back Venom with him on the spaceship. Im not sure in the 2nd one if he came back from space or is ready to leave, but lets say he came back in the second movie, they can easily make the movie based on bringing Venom back from space and opening that whole thing up. I also would think it would look awesome to see Spiderman and one of the best known enemies of the series VEnom fighting on the big screen! :)
Spiderman062004
07-30-2004, 09:58 AM
Spiderman 3 should consider having Venom in the movie battling Spiderman, even show Eddie Brock who turned into Venom. It would be so AWESOME I'm telling you. the CGI special effects along with maybe Industrial Light & Magic's help or whoever did the job, it would certainly please the audience and look very, very cool. Can you imagine that? Oh I can! I own all spiderman comics with Venom in them! their battle remains the best ever, if I say so. :)
The Villain
07-30-2004, 10:43 AM
I would welocme any badguy except Kingpin. I would really like to see Mysterio. It could lead to MJ getting a bigger role too.
I have bets that it will be either Mysterio, Lizard, Scorpion or Sandman.
:cool:
spider_ma_fan123123
07-30-2004, 06:49 PM
It is clear that Venom is a fan choice. Everyone has wanted venom since the beggining. So I beleive he might be a good choice for spiderman 3.
However, the green goblin (hobgoblin) does seem like a more logical choice, since Harry Osborne does stumble upon his father's previous vilain accessories!
Carnage3313
07-30-2004, 07:07 PM
They should put venom and carnege since they are the best!
Carnage3313
07-30-2004, 07:08 PM
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Dr. otto
07-30-2004, 07:11 PM
We al know he dident die he should come back and have some thing to do with venom
Abi smejl
07-31-2004, 09:44 AM
I think it should be the SandMan.. That could be cool!
Shenron
07-31-2004, 07:05 PM
how do you think they would do him? Its hard to make it seem realistic that a man can manipulate sand and do the stuff that he does.
Shenron
07-31-2004, 07:17 PM
:eek:
I have been folling what Rami has been saying in interviews and such and I think the only contenders for the next movie and
GG2
The Lizard
The Sandman
He hates the venom character and wants villans that dont wear masks so you can see there face and emotions better thats why he picked Doc Ock
suspence__
08-01-2004, 01:02 PM
Originally posted by Webrina1
YEAh, but Tobey and Kirsten won't do it..........they can't see past three.:(
tobey and kirsten dont have to be in that role for eternity. its like batman he changed actors
Incredible_Hulk
08-02-2004, 06:22 PM
Originally posted by Carnage3313
They should put venom and carnege since they are the best!
The best what? Venom, Carnage and carnege all bite big time. Get a real villain. Not X-Files rejects.
White Widow
08-02-2004, 09:13 PM
The way the second movie ended, there's a big advantage on who's the next villian. I think it should be Venom.
But, there's the advantage that there can be two. In a way-there were two villians in the second one. Harry isn't a villian he's just out to get spidey cuz of his dad. But hobgob and venom could work together or something to get spiderman-but for different reasons.
Then like somewhere along they start getting at each other because they BOTH want Spiderman and want him for different reasons and purposes. As you can see, I've thought this over a while. lol
saltym
08-03-2004, 04:17 AM
I would love to see KingBathmat (http://www.kingbathmat.com)
http://www.kingbathmat.com
as the new villain in Spiderman 3, rather than venom or kingpin, i love the toilet seat snap contraption he uses to defeat enemies, that would be cool to see on the big screen.
Dark Artist
08-03-2004, 08:26 AM
The one villain I want to see in a Spider-Man movie is CARNAGE. Man-oh-man what brilliant fight scenes that villain would pave the way for. Carnage!!!! Carnage!!!! Carnage!!!!!! I do worry about how he would affect the age rating on the movie but I don't really care, I just want to see him! He's my favourite Spidey villain of all time, and I think he's just great.
Go C!! Make them cast you!
Dark Artist
Frust
08-04-2004, 06:49 AM
Harry is an idiot, IF they make him the green goblin he should be defeted at the beginning in like 5 minutes. He is not worth more!
Venom and Carnage would make the best team. but maybe we will see the lizard and the mutated spiderman, then MJ and the lizards wife would hunt them with somekind of cure :D hehe, I guess not though. I hope Venom has a big part in Spiderman 3 :)
black_cat42
08-04-2004, 10:01 PM
Originally posted by spiderfanluvsmj
according to E! The Spidey's next foes are Green Goblin, Black Cat (played by Eliza Dushku-HOTTIE!!!), and a little something that was brought back from outerspace
Excellent!
Did they hint as to whether the Cat would be an ally or an adversary?
Harry! Harry! Harry!
'kay, got that out of my system.
Perhaps they will just introduce the symbiote- and build up the story to have Venom in 4?
That would be cool, have Venom roaring at the end of 3. Heck of a cliffhanger. :cool:
LethalLizard
08-05-2004, 08:38 AM
LIZARD!
Seriously, though -- he just makes the most sense.
The younger fans seem to like Venom because he "looks cool", but Venom is better off being saved for another movie. To finish off the Norman/Harry/scientist-villain arc, Lizard would fit into the story much better.
Dr.Dude
08-05-2004, 05:37 PM
I'm definitely rooting for both the Lizard and Green Goblin(2) to be the villains in Spidey 3. :cool:
Venom should show up in Spider-Man 4, after Harry's Goblin-path has finished. ;)
spider_saiyan80
08-05-2004, 09:32 PM
First off, Harry (in the comics and the Fox Cartoon) became the Green Goblin after learning about his father's secret as well as Peter's. He strengthened the formula, making himself much more powerful than his father...however, also much more insane. His insanity caused his death in the comics and him being institutionilized in an asylum in the cartoon.
Amazon_Wolf
08-06-2004, 10:53 AM
Although I would LOVE to see my Alfred Molina return as Octavius (which I still hope for everytime I see Spiderman 2), I would also love to see the Lizard. He's my second favorite villain, and he has such character to him. It would be cool to see how the animators would make a giant half-lizard half-man. :cool:
SpiderMan & Venom
08-09-2004, 12:39 PM
Venom gets my vote!!!Venom Venom
Spideys#1fan
08-09-2004, 03:12 PM
VENOM
spideymoviegirl
08-09-2004, 04:26 PM
i think maybe it'll be both Green Goblin II and the Lizard. it just makes sense. cuz i have a feeling Spiderman 3 will be the last Spiderman movie..so ya, it would make sense for Peter to hafta ultimately face his best friend and his mentor in all his superhero endeavors.
Spiderman Jr
08-09-2004, 05:31 PM
venom and the lizard would be cool villains for spiderman 3
webslingerj
08-09-2004, 05:32 PM
How 'bout the Michellin Man???
MarvelKnightsSpider-man
08-09-2004, 06:40 PM
i would like to see a version of the second Green Goblin, I mean Harry needs to be a villian its what spider-man 2 set the seeds for it will be a wicked battle and the lizard should be in it too.
~MK spider-man
P.s.Venom would be awesome if they made a 4 its just they need to tell alot of story and first they need to address the HArry situation. Though they could give hints in 3 or venom. But it dont sound like they are doing a 4.
ILoveTobeyM_15
08-09-2004, 09:40 PM
I want to see GG2, I really want to see Harry and Peter go at it! Also I want to see Harry be a bad boy.....:\
Rising Spider
08-09-2004, 11:36 PM
Hell no, GG2, green goblin was already done, I HAVE to be able to see what they can do with other villains, if they're only goin' to make 3 movie's and don't anyone say "6" because that wasn't talked about, they're only contracted for 3 right now. Should they choose to do more awesome, but it will have a different cast and all, because of the people that said they wont do a 4. So Venom, Rhino and shocker, Lizard, Mysterio who'mever, but for the harry osbourne thing he can easily think "ok wow, my dad was the green goblin, and peter killed my father, cuz he was a murderer" and it would be justified,
black_cat42
08-09-2004, 11:41 PM
I'd like to see GG2 and the Lizard in 3 and an introduction of Eddie or the black costume so we can have Venom in 4. :)
ILoveTobeyM_15
08-10-2004, 02:13 AM
Originally posted by black_cat42
I'd like to see GG2 and the Lizard in 3 and an introduction of Eddie or the black costume so we can have Venom in 4. :)
Thats what I was thinking they should do....
seeker515
08-10-2004, 07:20 AM
Originally posted by Rising Spider
but for the harry osbourne thing he can easily think "ok wow, my dad was the green goblin, and peter killed my father, cuz he was a murderer" and it would be justified
Exactly. Just because Harry found the Goblin gear doesn't mean he will become the second Green Goblin.
I think the fights between the two former best friends would be really intense, because Harry would be out for blood. However, if they are only doing three movies, I think I'd like to see another villain. Spidey has so many classic villains to choose from.
Someone else mentioned in another thread how cool it would be to have other villains playing minor roles, like a montage of Spidey taking down Shocker, Vulture, Rhino and other baddies, or even in news footage. Just to get some of those classic villains some screen time.
I think that would be great, but I still don't think I want the major villain in the third movie to be the second Green Goblin if we only have one movie left.
THWIPP!
08-10-2004, 08:42 AM
well, how about lex luthor! hehe... just kidding... :D
seriously though, if the thread is about who do i WANT to see it would definitely have to be VENOM.
it seems some of you are worried that spider-man 3 is the last one they'll make, so you might feel that it is your last chance to get to see a Spider-Man villain--but I would prefer to get a good movie with a solid story instead of a whole new arc to fit a new villain.
that is why i don't see Venom working with the current storyline. and i wouldn't want Venom's saga to feel rushed. time is limited and how would they fit the alien costume introduction, separation from Peter and bonding with Brock... plus amazing battles between Spidey and Venom?
eventhough Harry still has a choice to make, i think it better serves the story for him to at least try to become the goblin. two of the biggest focal points in peter's/spidey's story at this point are MJ and Harry and i want some closure there.
think of it in terms of trilogies. lets wrap this one up with Harry as the Green Goblin--plus the Lizard, and hope that the cast and production team make another three picture deal in which we can have the alien costume/Venom as the driver of the main storyline.
wang_man
08-12-2004, 10:54 AM
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Softballbratme
08-12-2004, 04:48 PM
Originally posted by tobeymaguire04
By the way, Spider-Man 3 is said to hit the box office on May 4, 2007!!! ;)
actually may 7th 2008..... sry to burst ur buble!
Sarumon the Doc Ock
08-24-2004, 04:36 PM
Venom kicks butt!!! Cause he's silly sweet like that!!! But hobgoblin comes pretty darn close. And no one (I say this a lot) can beat the OG GG!! Ye-ah!! (That sounded raw!!)
Sarumon the Doc Ock
08-24-2004, 04:38 PM
And everyone pretty much voted Venom. Can't wait for him to lock wrist with SPIDER-MAN!! Battle of the century!!!
BurgerKing
08-26-2004, 02:25 AM
**** Sam Rami
go venom!!!!
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