Spiderman 3 Ideas

[DOC OCK 2]

SPIDERMAN 3

Opening: you see what happened in SPIDERMAN 2 in comic style drawings (like the beginning of SPIDERMAN 2)

1st Scene: You see a news paper article say J. Jamenson made it to space and has returned (you see the space ship land reporters and cameras every where. Peter Parker is there along side with Brock) Brock and Peter are both taking pictures in competition to get the best and naturally peter wins and Brock is fired from his job (this makes him mad) next you see Brock working out at his home when he notices something on his jacket he wore to the Space shuttle landing he walks over to it and it shots at him and engufs him in black liquid he screams and looks in the mirror.

Then a bunch of newspaper articles are shown say BLACK MENACE KNOWN AS VENOM RECKS HAVOC and VENOM CAPTURED BY SPIDERMAN then…

You find VENOM in his jail sail he bust through the wall leaving a piece of his suit on the wall the suit finds its way to the phyco guy (don’t remember his name) and he becomes Carnage

That is all I have I thought that would be a good way to introduce the two characters without taking to much time and effort. Please tell me what you think

[dark_mullet]

Too much too fast. It woulnd't be right to introduce two villains so fast.

Besides, I already made this thread. (Look down a little ****her) ;)

[Spyda17]

i agree with dark mullet its just too fast! Usually it starts with the two guys being introduced and then they become friends and something wrong happens and that creates the villian of the movie.If they make a 3rd movie it would be either Venom or The Lizard.

[spidey_2_fan]

You need more time to introduce a new character.

[Ricer]

I agree with the last two posts. I don't want to see Venom. Think about it, to do a character such as Venom (alien teeth and tongue and all) there is going to be WAY too much CGI. That can really hurt. BTW, Dr. Connors has been built up in both movies, more so in SM2, and now we have the cliff-hanger of Harry and a possible G.G. return. Those two could make a great pairing.

[vic_vega]

Spiderman 3:
peter and maryjane are closer than ever. Shes not reay to get married though, because of the john jameson ordeal, which hurts peter. he finds comfort in felicia and continues to do his projects with curt connors. harry becomes the green goblin and sends spiderman the message that all he loves will be taken away. his immediate reaction is to protect maryjane. while doing that, his grandmother is killed by the goblin. next the goblin takes connors away and slowly transforms him into the lizard creature. spiderman begins to panic and his powers keep failnig him. he goes to rescue connors but finds him as the lizard, who nearly kills parker. wounded, the goblin comes in and begins to stress parker into telling him where mj is. he gives in eventaully, and the goblin leaves to find her. spiderman eventually gets away after another battle with the lizard. it ends with peter killing connors, even though he begs his as his friend. spiderman races to mj, and gets to her real loaction (since he gave the goblin the wrong loaction). mj tells peter shes ready to marry him and that shes pregnant. enter the goblin, who fights off peter and beats him to a pulp again. mj stands between them.
MJ: youll have to come throguh me to get to him
GOBILIN: fine.
then he grabs mj and takes her away. saying if he ever wants her back, he he'll have to surrender himself to the goblin who will be waiting.
end.

[vic_vega]

iots a good route to go. then dunst doesnt have to appear until the sixth movie because 4 and 5 will be about peter trying to find ehr beut being stopped by mysterio, shocker, and eventaully venom. what do you think?

[Ricer]

hey vic... got a question for ya. Grandmother? HUH? It's his Aunt. Hence Aunt May! Just wanted to correct yeah before all hell broke loose.

[Hudson_99]

AMEN OCK 2 VENOM AND CARNAGE SHOULD BE IN SPIDEY3!!!!. But i think Venom should be the Astronaut M.J. Pissed off by leaving him at alter.(just 4 revenge =D)

[Pesos]

Ive been reading around and Ive made up my own little series based on other peoples ideas. Now I dont know if someone had this exact idea or something like it, but here me out.

for Spider-Man 3 I think that The Lizard will be the villain. Now, I don't really want this cuz I think he'd be a little boring but who knows. But its been hinted for a while, and its a strong rumour around. So during Spider-Man 3, The Lizard could emerge for 2 reasons, either he (Curt Connors) wants revenge on Spidy because he may believe Spidy had something to do with the death of his good friend Dr. Octavius, or some other reason that could be made up fine by the writers. Now during this battle, Harry's character can develop in the mean time. Possibly a haunting stage between Harry and his dad. During the movie Eddie Brock should make his first appearance in the Bugle, maybe a 20second scene where u can notice some hate between Eddie and Peter. Im not sure but I think he was mentioned in the first or second movie cant remember. Eventually, the Lizard would die or whuutever may happen to him, and by the end Harry will decide to become GreenGoblin 2 setting up Spider-Man 4. During this movie, Harry/GreenGob 2 would be the main villain. During the start of the movie, there should be a scene where JJ Jamesons son goes into space on a shuttle and eventually brings down the symbiote. [I think this could go two ways, Ill explain the other at the end]. The shuttle would crash land like in the animated series and the symbiote would make its way onto Peter while saving the shuttle. Thus, combining both Spider-Man and the symbiote together creating the black suited Spider-Man. During this time the two can fight at it and Eddie's character could build even more. During Peters first couple of days with the symbiote attached to him, a haunting stage could be created just like the animated series. So 3 conflicts would arise; Eddie vs Peter/Spidy, Spidy vs Harry/GreenGob, and Spidy vs the symbiote. Eventually Harry will die or whutever may come and maybe like the animateed series, Spidy will finally depart from the symbiote and combine with Eddie Brock again like in the animated series THUS creating Spider-Man vs Venom in Spider-Man 5.

My second angle, regarding the symbiote is this. GreenGob2 could be the villain in Spider-Man 3, butt very little character development for Harry and his nightmares. Spider-Man 4 would have the space shuttle on earth, however the symbiote would not reach Spidy, yet. The black rock substance would then me studied by Curt Connors, and Peter would take an interest in this so obviously Curt would volunteer Peter for researching the rock. During Petes research the symbiote could attach the Peter. ANNND somehow the Lizard would come about and the two would fight with the whole Eddie Brock nightmare stage, and again, Eddie and the symbiote could attach at the end to set up Spider-Man 5.

These are merely my hopes. I just HOPE that the writers and every1 behind the Spider-Man decision making will NOT rush the series. Leave everything up to Sam Raimi. Whutever he puts down, should be FINAL. He'll do justice with the movies Im sure of it. Once again these are merely my escapes because movie series tend to wander off into success and lose thereselves in the process. Comments?

[Pesos]

oh and royght, add some MJ/Harry, MJ/Peter drama in there. The three should and probably will have a collective conflict.

[SAPONEE]

Yeah I saw the Lizard in the movie. I hope that will be the next antagonist.

But it seems like it might be the Hobgoblin.

I would prefer the Lizard. I like the whole story of the Lizard and how he came to be the Lizard.

[SAPONEE]

Actually J. Jonah Jamieson's son fights Spidey as a werewolf I think.

[DarcMind]

I think that spiderman wouldent be able to deal with 2 villians at once bcuz he cant even deal with one without getting his butt kiked and his costume torn up.if u were to put spiderman up agianst venom and the lizard spidermas chances of winning are very slim

[DarcMind]

it could also be venom but venom is way stronger than venom so how is spiderman supposed to beat him

[Gohanssj209]

the most realistic one to have would probably be harry as gg2, but maybe aswell as another villian in the 3rd one aswell, such as lizard :D dont worry if the lizard in your thoughts is gonna be bad, but they will make it good.

[tjcst38]

i just saw spidey 2 and thought it was great, here's my prediction for spider man 3

i think that mj and peter will still be going strong and the main villan will be the real green goblin. there will be a few major side plots though

1. dr conners becomes the lizard. he'll become the lizard and will go out of control and be more like a distraction in the movie for fighting the green goblin. conners isn't a real villan since he's only a problem as the lizard. there will be battles with the lizard but like i said, it will be more a side note to the battle with the goblin.

2. jameson's son will go to space in the movie and the cliffhanger at the end will be his return with the black suit setting up a single villan, venom for spider man 4 if they decide to make it.

3. i don't think they'll continue to have peter's powers fail with all this other stuff going on

4. i also think that mj and peter will set some kind of wedding plans in this movie.

any comments?

[Tiger41]

Then how exactly is Venom supposed to come? The symbote has to attach itself to Peter first of all, that will take ANOTHER movie, then Eddie Brock has to get it, which would then be Venom.....

I just don't see them fitting Venom into this.

[Astro4]

I think maybe it should all seem like Harry will be the second GG, and the movie builds upon that in the beginning. Then, that turns to child's play as Venom comes in. Harry is not much of a challenge but Venom is and Spider-man has to handle both of them, but not all that the same time.

[thegreengoblin2]

Spiderman 2 ends with harry discovering his father`s gg weapons,glider,and costume and then he becomes gg2.Soon in spiderman 3 peter is working with connors who workson some new experiment,but j jonah jameson calls him and tels him to to come over.Peter finds a new friend named eddie brock,but soon the two becomes rivals as gg2 makes peter think eddie is an enemy and makes eddie think peter is an enemy in some sneaky twisted way.Then Eddie loses his job for taking a picture of jameson getting attacked by gg2 and then spiderman defeats gg2,then eddie is kicked out and soon the spaceshuttle appears and turns eddie into venom,then gg2 takes a sample and turns connor`s friend whoever carnage is and makes him carnage and then turns connor into the lizard,then gg2 kidnaps mary jane and peter has to save her soon,peter defeats gg2 and mj marrys peter and she becomes pregnant opening the next movie where the lizard ,carnage,and venom have already been defeated and their daughter is spidergirl and mj is spiderwoman.Then they face gg3,the vulture,rhino,hydroman,sandman,and ock 2 creating the sinister six opening spiderman 4 and ending the series.

[Spider-man619]

First Spider-Man 2 was off the chain.

But about the third I think Harry should go through the whole haunting thing trying not to become GG2 but he dose but insted of being GG2 he should become Hob Goblin thats how Peter Parker/Spider-Man wont know its Harry and not to follow his dads legacy to much since he want to kill spider-man since he will go insane too. Im Not sure about Conners/Lizard sure to fit him but maybe Harry can come up with a formula to get him back to normal but he has to kill spider-man so Conners Theonly war harry will give it to him is if he kills Spidy so conners is left with no choise. Spidy and The Lizard can go at it a few times but peter gets the formula and gives it to him and then he gose after Hob Goblin, not knowing its Harry, Spidy kills him. Not sure about ending.

Also i hope there is no fourth since it might kill the whole serie I mean look what happend to Batman. And Carnage is way to many characters to introduce to one movie and you need Venom so the chances of Carnage are way slimer than Venom

[DOC OCK 2]

NO!!! I do not want Green Goblin in the 3rd movie nothing against him of course but they did that in the 3rd movie. Spiderman has countless enimies and for the 3rd and last installment of the SPidey series having a repeat of an enimie would ruin the movie. I am basically saying if they put Green Goblin in the movie it will not be the great final finish to the beloved SPIDERMAN trilogy.AND by Green Goblin I mean all Goblins!

[spider_man_fan_87]

the psycho guy's name, the guy that became Carnage, was Cletus Kassady.

[Ashhong]

im not sure if i remember right, but isnt harry the hobgoblin? which is pretty much the spiritual successor of the GG, just upgraded weaponry. its obvious that hobgoblins gonna be in it/harry is the new villian. maybe dr. connors will also become lizard man, but that might take too long, as peter has to become his teacher aid and all that good stuff.

[jkreutzer]

if the lizard is in sd-3, then it will probably come about from connors researching lizards (because lizards can regrow lost limbs) because he wants his right arm back. He finally finds the right chemical and he mixes it w/ his dna, but it has unexpected side effects which makes him more lizard than he really predicted. Thus, making him the "Lizard".

[DOC OCK 2]

Originally posted by Ashhong
im not sure if i remember right, but isnt harry the hobgoblin? which is pretty much the spiritual successor of the GG, just upgraded weaponry. its obvious that hobgoblins gonna be in it/harry is the new villian. maybe dr. connors will also become lizard man, but that might take too long, as peter has to become his teacher aid and all that good stuff.
No Harry is not the hob goblin. Sime rich dude who becomes a robber is the hob goblin but not harry

[__vindicated__]

Agreeing with Ashhong, I think Harry will show up in SM3 as Hobgoblin, but I would think he wouldn't be a challenge for Spidey, and get the smackdown somewhere in the first 45 minutes of the movie, also giving time for Connors to do his transformation thing and show up as the Lizard after Harry's been taken care of. Maybe Harry will join Spidey to battle the Liz? *shrugs*

Either way, I'm not exactly sure where they're taking the MJ plot...

[sexxyspidergirl]

Ok, to all of you who dont want the 2nd Green Goblin or Hob Goblin, face it, if Harry was not going to turn into one of them, then why would they put that whole scene Spidey 2? He IS going to be one of them in either the 3rd or 4th movie.
Now about Venom and Carnage, believe me, these are some of my favorite villains but it will be too complicated to fit them in. First there will be too much CGI animation, and the good scenes that we have come to love will seem to fake.
My prediction would be that the Lizard would be the next villain. Maybe have Gobby either in this one, but not be such a big threat, or have Harry's charactergo through insanity and having his father torture his mind and have Gobby in the 4th with some other villain.

[Maxamoose_S7537]

Harry will defanitly be the villian in the third movie,like I said he has all the goblin stuff now and he was up to something at the end of the second movie.The third movie will take place three year's from now,You would think he would be ready to attack peter by then right?

[Jason Martell]

Originally posted by vic_vega
Spiderman 3:
peter and maryjane are closer than ever. Shes not reay to get married though, because of the john jameson ordeal, which hurts peter. he finds comfort in felicia and continues to do his projects with curt connors. harry becomes the green goblin and sends spiderman the message that all he loves will be taken away. his immediate reaction is to protect maryjane. while doing that, his grandmother is killed by the goblin. next the goblin takes connors away and slowly transforms him into the lizard creature. spiderman begins to panic and his powers keep failnig him. he goes to rescue connors but finds him as the lizard, who nearly kills parker. wounded, the goblin comes in and begins to stress parker into telling him where mj is. he gives in eventaully, and the goblin leaves to find her. spiderman eventually gets away after another battle with the lizard. it ends with peter killing connors, even though he begs his as his friend. spiderman races to mj, and gets to her real loaction (since he gave the goblin the wrong loaction). mj tells peter shes ready to marry him and that shes pregnant. enter the goblin, who fights off peter and beats him to a pulp again. mj stands between them.
MJ: youll have to come throguh me to get to him
GOBILIN: fine.
then he grabs mj and takes her away. saying if he ever wants her back, he he'll have to surrender himself to the goblin who will be waiting.
end.
Who's grandma?

[HistorymakinIcon]

Probably means Aunt May.

[Jason Martell]

Originally posted by tjcst38
i just saw spidey 2 and thought it was great, here's my prediction for spider man 3

i think that mj and peter will still be going strong and the main villan will be the real green goblin. there will be a few major side plots though

1. dr conners becomes the lizard. he'll become the lizard and will go out of control and be more like a distraction in the movie for fighting the green goblin. conners isn't a real villan since he's only a problem as the lizard. there will be battles with the lizard but like i said, it will be more a side note to the battle with the goblin.

2. jameson's son will go to space in the movie and the cliffhanger at the end will be his return with the black suit setting up a single villan, venom for spider man 4 if they decide to make it.

3. i don't think they'll continue to have peter's powers fail with all this other stuff going on

4. i also think that mj and peter will set some kind of wedding plans in this movie.

any comments?
probably something like that, but the main story will be peter, and the villians will be side plots. I think after spidey discovers that the lizard is his friend Connors, he will go back to find some serum at the lab to cure connors, and on his way back to connors, he runs into the Harry Goblin, and hes trying to battle him without breaking the serum or losing it.

[Jason Martell]

Part 3 will be the lizard and green goblin
Part 4 will be venom and carnage.

Part 3 will probably in the last scene show spidey get the black symbiote
or the first scene in part 4 will be him getting the symbiote

ever think about the helicopters in part 2 at the last scene. They looked really fake, and I think they could have something to do with spidey getting the black symbiote!

[christhn]

Jameson's son looked pretty upset when he was left at the altar. Anyone else thinking a possible Man-Wolf appearance in part 3?

[Webrina1]

WHAT about a THREE for three movie, three villians for the third........Green Gob. 2, OCK returns and THE LIZARD.


Doc's not dead......Pete swings back to find him......after remmebering the whole ,"I don't want to die a monster" it gets to him.......isn't Spidey in some way a monster for LETTING people 'down and die IN the past fire! OR allow crime to rise.....it gets 'deep' for him........returns 'HE's GONE'.....however a small memento is left....'Octavious returns, Ock is dead.'

NUMBER 2 villian......Harry is stuck beliveing that his geeky, pencil-pushing friend is really spidey....those 'wire's probably were just alluminum and 'Ock' tricked him. However 'Norman' convinces him other wise...takes formula and Voila! Green Goblin 2........Hobgoblin if you all like- I hate the number 2 thing.

Spidey still goes to college with a sense of 'ease' that at least MJ knows and accepts though he is drawn both ways......Harry knows as well.....HE should have made up something or told him HE didn't -idiot rings out in his mind.......at college Dr. Conners becomes the 'lizard' in his own Dr. Jeykle and Mr. Hyde sort of way............JJJ wants Spidey unmasked so well he tells Ock that he can 'remove the tenticles to make him ' "A monster no more" if he would get spidey for HIM ONE more time! JJJ is still determined and sees the Lizard at night and offers him the same thing and..........now Green Goblin don't play by JJ's rules and all ARE after Spidey- phew!:D

[sexxyspidergirl]

Hmm... I never thought of that, good one Webrina! I can actually belive that happening, but wouldn't having 3 villians kinda take away from the story, more violence, less romance and human story.

[HistorymakinIcon]

I think the idea of having 3 villans is a poor choice. Why do we need to cram 3 different stories into one 2 hour-2 and half hour film? Is it necessary to have 3 villans? In my opinion, the movie will just come off weak. I say, keep Doc Ock dead. The ending to Spiderman 2 was perfect. Doc Ock realized the evil he was doing, saved the city by killing himself, and fittingly was reunited with his wife. As for Dr. Connors, keep him as a teacher. Let Parker play out his college life role in the next one, and add a dilemma there. Then, you keep the same Harry Osborn/Spiderman fued going. Harry as the Green Goblin will not be stale because "the Green Goblin" already appeared. No, these two are totally different. Harry is crazier than Norman. There is more story behind his motive. He hates Spiderman more than anything, yet Spiderman is his best friend. Sam and the crew are gonna film this movie like its the last of all the Spiderman movies. They are going to finish this trilogy off right, with the final encounter between Spiderman and Green Goblin 2. Save the story of the Lizard for a later movie if they are made. Save Venom and Carnage and everyone else for movies down the road. There's no reason to cram villans all in this movie. Save them incase Sam decides to stick around, or Sony and Marvel decide to make more Spiderman movies. There's no point in cramming all these villans into one movie and leaving no opening for future films.

[Webrina1]

Sad really......atleat someone elses favorite villin Green Goblin got to come back as a 'vision, dream illustion' etc.............I'm sad I hate badguys winning but THERE has to be in fiction just one bad guy that is there always after the character like J.Bone-Blowfeld.....was always on his mind........maybe two villians would be ok.....but I like to mix things up..........oh well. Green Goblin 2's ok....wish they call him Hobgoblin- more evil that Green with an envy- he holds the color of orange to go alone with his color of red passionate hate in his heart..who knows he could do a costume make over. Ock in the comics was always A retruning Foe.......hmmmm.....wish they did a Fourth to bring Ock back to finish what he started.......or to do something new........like in the other numerous comics- a Octo-lady! lol

[clay391]

How about John Jameson goes to space and brings back a substance. Dr. Connors is given the substance to study. Dr. Connors wants Peter to help him study the substance. Meanwhile, Green Goblin shows up in the city wreaking havoc so Spider-man will show up and he can fight Spider-man a bit. (we all know who Green Goblin is but Spider-man kinda thinks its Harry Osbourne but is not sure) Peter Parker begins to be suspicious of everyone, Harry, of course, Dr. Connors, Aunt May, Mary Jane even the new photographer at the Daily Bugle who lost his job because Peter shot a better photo than him. One by one each character is disproven Dr. Connors becomes lizard kicks spider-man's butt and runs off. Spider-man checks up on Brock but finds Brock has lost everything he owned and his family and is living just down stairs from Peter Parker in the same hole in the wall type apartment. Eddie Brock does tell him he will never forgive Peter. Then, for some odd reason, as Spider-man, he loses his powers and GG2 kicks his butt. Ready to kill his best friend, Harry loses it, rips off the mask and starts talking to himself. He runs off with Mary Jane. Through out the rest of the movie we see Harry as the Green Goblin with out the mask. Then, no matter what Peter can do, he can't get his spider powers back so he turns toward the substance that him and Dr. Connors were studying. He puts it on and it gives him his powers back times ten. He then saves Mary Jane and beats Harry to a bloody pulp. Ready to kill Harry, he has the same situation Harry found himself in. The black suit is changing Peter, so instead of killing Harry, he runs off ripping the suit off. Eddie Brock just happens to be in the neighborhood and the suit falls on him. Then, venom shows up. blah blah blah and a lot of fighting. Harry comes up with something like destroying the world (because he's just as much insane as his father) and Venom and Spider-man team up to stop him. Venom is still Spider-man's enemy because he kills Harry, slaps Spider-man around and runs off.

[Webrina1]

THe ending to your post is hiliarous.

[clay391]

:) thank you

[clay391]

oh and spider-man 3 should be 3 hours long and secretly, without the actors knowing, split it into two parts making the second part, Spider-man 4 and release it one month later than Spider-man 3.

[Jason Martell]

Originally posted by clay391
oh and spider-man 3 should be 3 hours long and secretly, without the actors knowing, split it into two parts making the second part, Spider-man 4 and release it one month later than Spider-man 3.
The studio under no circumstances would release one spidey movie a month after the other. For one thing they would compete with each other for ticket sales, and for the fans that missed part 3 in the theatres, they wouldn't want to watch 4 without first seeing part 3 at least on video. That's why they postponed the release of matrix 3.

[clay391]

Return of the Jedi was released while Empire Strikes Back was, maybe not one month after the other but it happened. I see where you're getting at though

[BringVenom]

First of all this is my first post on this sight and I must admit there are some very valid points going on about S3. Someone posted that, especially if 3 is the finally, you need a big name villain that not only can give spidey a run for his money but can also defeat him. I don't know who that could be, I definately don't want it to be Venom or Carnage yet. I do believe that Mysterio, Vulture or any other early comic villain would be enough to spark my interest. I love the idea of a 10-15 minute opening scene with someone like shocker or the rihino as minor villains that don't show up later in the movie. That way you get your multiple villains without really disrupting the story any. Black Cat, Lizard, Hobgoblin or GG2 will definately be in the movie. I haven't seen 2 yet (no funds) but that's the way it seems it will go. I only say hobgoblin because i don't see how they can make another gg appeal to the non comic fans. And since hobby will never be in the movies it's a change in plot that spidey comic fans could hanle. Now to venom as you see my screne name I love venom he is definately my favorite villain. The complete anti-spider. I don't believe that Rami will come back after 3, but what about Cameron, he...wait i'll make another post about that. Anyway, the end of S3 would have to hint around some sort of venom (Why would you mention Eddy Brock in both movies if you weren't at least thinking about Venom) and finally bring brock to the big screne. S4 would have to be the battle between peter and the black costume and maybe the sinister 6 with sandman. And finally S5 Venom!! S6 Carnage! If it goes that far. I would also love a cameo by Ben Afflect (dardevil) only as a lawyer no red suite. Or maybe even Wolverine helping fight in that opening 10-15 minute scene (Maybe not shocker, but the Jugarnaunt). so many ideas so little time. I know this is a lot but any comments?

[clay391]

I want tons of CAMEOS IN THE 3RD FILM.
BRUCE BANNER!!! Eric Bana from the movie HULK
WOLVERINE!!! Hugh Jackman from X-men
PUNISHER!!! Thomas Jane from the new Punisher movie.
BLACK CAT
MORBIUS
BLADE!!! Wesley Snipes from Blade movies
DAREDEVIL!!! Ben Affleck from Daredevil

[clay391]

Either that or stick a Spider-man CAMEO in one of the X-men movies..


(C'MON lets get some good movie cameos and crossovers going on using same actors)