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GreenieGobbie
10-30-2008, 09:53 PM
I've just happen to stumble upon this just now from Superherohype.com and felt that I should post it here.
Playwright David Lindsay-Abaire (upcoming Inkheart), who won a Pulitzer in 2007 for his drama "Rabbit Hole," is in final negotiations to write Spider-Man 4 for Columbia Pictures, says The Hollywood Reporter.

Sam Raimi and Tobey Maguire are back as director and star, respectively, as are series producers Laura Ziskin and Avi Arad. Kirsten Dunst also is expected to return for the latest movie featuring the Marvel Comics character.

Plot details are under lock and key.

James Vanderbilt previously wrote a draft of Spider-Man 4.

Lindsay-Abaire's "Rabbit Hole," which starred Cynthia Nixon and Tyne Daly, hit the Broadway stage in 2006 and won four Tonys, including best play. The writer also is known for the play "Fuddy Meers."
Source: http://www.superherohype.com/news/spider-mannews.php?id=7774

So what do you think?

shadow_spidey
10-30-2008, 10:12 PM
So they're booting James' script, draft or whatever is or was? :confused: Maybe he wrote the draft and they're getting this guy to write the script? I don't know.

bds23420
10-31-2008, 09:14 AM
very good news i was gonna post this but didnt have the time last night!

but this is great!!!!!!!!!!!!!

webhead988
10-31-2008, 01:08 PM
This in no means means that Vanderbit's draft is biting the dust does it?...

If it does...son of a b!tch.

Spider-Tim 075
10-31-2008, 02:26 PM
This in no means means that Vanderbit's draft is biting the dust does it?...

If it does...son of a b!tch.

I also hope not ! (I'm back btw lol)

luke123
10-31-2008, 02:31 PM
This in no means means that Vanderbit's draft is biting the dust does it?...

If it does...son of a b!tch.

no it doesnt, watchmen went through 3 script writers and usually what they do is take the best out of the 2 drafts and combine them

Arcainite
11-01-2008, 12:21 AM
This in no means means that Vanderbit's draft is biting the dust does it?...

If it does...son of a b!tch.

Maybe they'll have the Vanderbilt script come out on the internet eventually like the James Cameron Spider-Man draft did.

And maybe they will combine the scripts...

But in combining elements from the scripts, you need to be careful you don't wind up with a bunch of great pieces that don't fit well together.

MaxGSpideyFan
11-01-2008, 08:22 AM
I also hope not ! (I'm back btw lol)

:spidey_yeah_that: And welcome back :D

Spider-Tim 075
11-01-2008, 08:26 AM
:spidey_yeah_that: And welcome back :D

lol thanks


I read this article on Empire, and both writers focus alot on character. Apparently this script will really become serious litiature... Cause Empire even started there article off with "Whoever thinks comics are just for kids...."

I think this is good news. Taking the franchise a bit more seriously. I don't want this to be 2 dark or serious. But more than Spidey 3... Make sure theres a good strong narrative storyline, that fits with the comics and it's great characters BUT keep all the fun of the franchise in there. We still want action & quips obviously.

MaxGSpideyFan
11-01-2008, 08:33 AM
lol thanks


I read this article on Empire, and both writers focus alot on character. Apparently this script will really become serious litiature... Cause Empire even started there article off with "Whoever thinks comics are just for kids...."

I think this is good news. Taking the franchise a bit more seriously. I don't want this to be 2 dark or serious. But more than Spidey 3... Make sure theres a good strong narrative storyline, that fits with the comics and it's great characters BUT keep all the fun of the franchise in there. We still want action & quips obviously.

Thats good to hear.

webhead988
11-01-2008, 09:40 AM
I also hope not ! (I'm back btw lol)

Hey haven't seen you on for awhile!no it doesnt, watchmen went through 3 script writers and usually what they do is take the best out of the 2 drafts and combine them

Maybe they'll have the Vanderbilt script come out on the internet eventually like the James Cameron Spider-Man draft did.

And maybe they will combine the scripts...

But in combining elements from the scripts, you need to be careful you don't wind up with a bunch of great pieces that don't fit well together.

Welll that's a relief to hear they're probably not ignoring Vanderbilt's script. With these 2 writers' scripts combined, this movie should have an awesome story!!!

Jick08
11-01-2008, 02:19 PM
it really will take quite a long to hear some news on the story.

mannyo80
11-02-2008, 03:54 AM
All Spiderman movies were fantastic. However I would like to point out. Spiderman 1 & 2 was a spiderman film with romance on the side. Spiderman 3 was more of a romance movie with spiderman characters. Please please ensure Spiderman 4 & 5 have the romance on the side like 1 & 2.
Also please end the films with the extraordinary CGI of spiderman swinging around like in 1 & 2. It was awesome.

Thanks

Spider-Tim 075
11-02-2008, 04:23 AM
All Spiderman movies were fantastic. However I would like to point out. Spiderman 1 & 2 was a spiderman film with romance on the side. Spiderman 3 was more of a romance movie with spiderman characters. Please please ensure Spiderman 4 & 5 have the romance on the side like 1 & 2.
Also please end the films with the extraordinary CGI of spiderman swinging around like in 1 & 2. It was awesome.

Thanks

I missed that in Spidey 3! And what I can tell from a deleted blue prints trailer and the spidey novel there was one planned

Caveboy0
11-02-2008, 07:22 AM
Hey haven't seen you on for awhile!



Welll that's a relief to hear they're probably not ignoring Vanderbilt's script. With these 2 writers' scripts combined, this movie should have an awesome story!!!

actually this is normal in the movie business. they would have one guy write it and then another guy to edit it and change things around and the second guy gets all the credit.

webhead988
11-02-2008, 08:06 AM
actually this is normal in the movie business. they would have one guy write it and then another guy to edit it and change things around and the second guy gets all the credit.

It's too bad about the credit part if that's true. But a different thing happened with The Incredible Hulk, where Zac Peen wrote the original draft, and Edward Norton wrote the final draft but received no credit for it. Weird.

Caveboy0
11-02-2008, 10:12 AM
It's too bad about the credit part if that's true. But a different thing happened with The Incredible Hulk, where Zac Peen wrote the original draft, and Edward Norton wrote the final draft but received no credit for it. Weird.

i guess it depends on who did the majority of the final product. maybe edward norton only tweaked some of it. i know this from an interview of well the writer on the incredible hulk. he actually talked about x-men the last stand and how he wrote the original script and then they got another guy and the movie turned out completely different then what he wrote.

webhead988
11-02-2008, 10:15 AM
i guess it depends on who did the majority of the final product. maybe edward norton only tweaked some of it. i know this from an interview of well the writer on the incredible hulk. there was actually a guy before Zac Peen.

Really? That's interesting.

MaxGSpideyFan
11-02-2008, 11:20 AM
I missed that in Spidey 3! And what I can tell from a deleted blue prints trailer and the spidey novel there was one planned

Yeah i missed that too, i remember seeing it and thinking near the end ok final swing coming, then credits rolled, ohhhhhhh NO Final swing :(

Caveboy0
11-02-2008, 12:31 PM
Really? That's interesting.

actually i was wrong on that read my edited post.

webhead988
11-02-2008, 12:34 PM
i guess it depends on who did the majority of the final product. maybe edward norton only tweaked some of it. i know this from an interview of well the writer on the incredible hulk. he actually talked about x-men the last stand and how he wrote the original script and then they got another guy and the movie turned out completely different then what he wrote.
This is even more interesting. So Zac Penn may not have been at fault for the disaster that was X:Men: The Last Stand? Cause I hated what I thought he did to the story for that movie. My biggest problem was what they did to Cyclops, but I don't know if Penn would have originally had him killed off anyway early on in the film. He did anyway help write X2 no? And Cyclops had it very bad in that movie as well.

lopli
11-02-2008, 12:41 PM
This in no means means that Vanderbit's draft is biting the dust does it?...

If it does...son of a b!tch.
yeah that^^^

Caveboy0
11-02-2008, 12:50 PM
This is even more interesting. So Zac Penn may not have been at fault for the disaster that was X:Men: The Last Stand? Cause I hated what I thought he did to the story for that movie. My biggest problem was what they did to Cyclops, but I don't know if Penn would have originally had him killed off anyway early on in the film. He did anyway help write X2 no? And Cyclops had it very bad in that movie as well.

i can't find the article on IGN but i'm sure he said the final product was nothing like what he wrote.

webhead988
11-02-2008, 01:24 PM
i can't find the article on IGN but i'm sure he said the final product was nothing like what he wrote.

That really is too bad. I really don't know what the point was to mess up the script of TLS. Fox must truly be completely stupid and trying to make their movies brainless and childish. And have you heard that they're trying to mess up Wolverine and make it all kid friendly. Clearly they haven't learnt anything from movies like TDK.

Caveboy0
11-02-2008, 01:51 PM
That really is too bad. I really don't know what the point was to mess up the script of TLS. Fox must truly be completely stupid and trying to make their movies brainless and childish. And have you heard that they're trying to mess up Wolverine and make it all kid friendly. Clearly they haven't learnt anything from movies like TDK.

wolverine kid friendly? they got to be kidding me.

webhead988
11-02-2008, 02:24 PM
wolverine kid friendly? they got to be kidding me.

No man this is serious sh!t. Fox has become total greedy idiots who want nothing but money and will even screw up big movies as much as they can to grab a buck. They've lost all creative integrity and dignity and are a bunch of idiotic slobs. This is why Marvel pulled the plug with Fox and are working with Paramount and Universal.

http://thebosh.com/archives/2008/08/xmen_origins_wolverine_director_gavin_hood_at_war_ with_tom_rothman_over_how_dark_the_film_should_be. php
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/x-men_movies/x-men_origins_wolverine/news/?a=5005

Caveboy0
11-02-2008, 05:48 PM
No man this is serious sh!t. Fox has become total greedy idiots who want nothing but money and will even screw up big movies as much as they can to grab a buck. They've lost all creative integrity and dignity and are a bunch of idiotic slobs. This is why Marvel pulled the plug with Fox and are working with Paramount and Universal.

http://thebosh.com/archives/2008/08/xmen_origins_wolverine_director_gavin_hood_at_war_ with_tom_rothman_over_how_dark_the_film_should_be. php
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/x-men_movies/x-men_origins_wolverine/news/?a=5005

Wow fox is being so stupid. Seriously, did Batman being dark hurt it's sales? I think not. And really it's not just this situation it's just overall Fox being so greedy and more importantly all studios being greedy. It truly ruins movies.
There must be a gap between the studios and the directors and writers. Their like mold. When movies get wet from studio involvement they just grow and spread threw-out the movie and makes it smell bad.

webhead988
11-02-2008, 06:03 PM
Wow fox is being so stupid. Seriously, did Batman being dark hurt it's sales? I think not. And really it's not just this situation it's just overall Fox being so greedy and more importantly all studios being greedy. It truly ruins movies.
There must be a gap between the studios and the directors and writers. Their like mold. When movies get wet from studio involvement they just grow and spread threw-out the movie and makes it smell bad.
Fox is no question the worst of the studios. The other studios come nowhere near the greediness of Fox. It's to the point that Fox doens't even care if a movie is good anymore. Why do you think Fox just had one of their worst years ever in the movie industry? I'm pretty sure they didn't even have 1 fresh movie on rottentomatoes this year.

BackinBlack07
11-02-2008, 06:31 PM
OMG, this totally explains why Fox doesn't want WB to release Watchmen! They know it'll be so much better than Wolverine, so they want more people to see their movie while trying to stop WB. It all makes sense now!

sherilyn
11-02-2008, 09:34 PM
Guess who's back?

my only thought
about this
is

woo hoo

bds23420
11-03-2008, 03:54 AM
wow! long time no see sherilyn how have you been?!?!

and i agree this is great news just cant wait till we get more new about Spider-Man 4

Jick08
11-03-2008, 06:43 AM
This is even more interesting. So Zac Penn may not have been at fault for the disaster that was X:Men: The Last Stand? Cause I hated what I thought he did to the story for that movie. My biggest problem was what they did to Cyclops, but I don't know if Penn would have originally had him killed off anyway early on in the film. He did anyway help write X2 no? And Cyclops had it very bad in that movie as well.
I never gave two d@mns about Cyclops in the X trilogy. so undeveloped.

webhead988
11-03-2008, 02:42 PM
I never gave two d@mns about Cyclops in the X trilogy. so undeveloped.
The reason I gave two d@mns was because I love his character so much and that he was so undeveloped...he had it good in the first and was on his way to becoming such an awesome character....then..*sigh*

Jick08
11-04-2008, 08:35 AM
I love his character, too. but he was so uninteresting in the movies.

Masked_Maggot
11-04-2008, 11:48 AM
it's good to know news like this... i just hope that we can know more about what happened with vanderbilt in a few days...

King-Kong
11-05-2008, 12:04 PM
it's good to know news like this... i just hope that we can know more about what happened with vanderbilt in a few days...

Didn't spidey 2 have 3 or 4 writers go through the story?
and that turned out pretty well

Masked_Maggot
11-05-2008, 12:19 PM
Didn't spidey 2 have 3 or 4 writers go through the story?
and that turned out pretty well

you're right... i just wanted to know what realy happened...

did vanderbilt just write a draft so that this guy would write the script?

did the studio not like vanderbilt's draft (or script) and signed someone else to do it?

is david lindsay-abaire gonna team up with vanderbilt to write the script?

Spider Rider
11-05-2008, 12:59 PM
I don't really care who writes it, so long as it is a good script

Masked_Maggot
11-05-2008, 01:03 PM
I don't really care who writes it, so long as it is a good script

you just pwned me

Rodger-Dodger
11-05-2008, 01:18 PM
The reason I gave two d@mns was because I love his character so much and that he was so undeveloped...he had it good in the first and was on his way to becoming such an awesome character....then..*sigh*

the xmen films suck! cylclops is my favorite xmen character! Cyclops is like the leader of the whole team, and got left out. for shame.

Spider Rider
11-05-2008, 01:23 PM
you just pwned me

haha i wasn't trying to pwn anyone. I was just stating that I'll be happy so long as the movie has a good script

Masked_Maggot
11-05-2008, 01:28 PM
the xmen films suck! cylclops is my favorite xmen character! Cyclops is like the leader of the whole team, and got left out. for shame.

i never realy liked cyclops... but when i saw him in the first x-men it was very good... too bad he wasn't so good in X2 & X3-TLS

haha i wasn't trying to pwn anyone. I was just stating that I'll be happy so long as the movie has a good script

and you're absolutley right

Caveboy0
11-05-2008, 02:02 PM
the xmen films suck! cylclops is my favorite xmen character! Cyclops is like the leader of the whole team, and got left out. for shame.

You guys seem to be missing something. Cyclops was the leader. He just wasn't the focus. Cyclops may be cool, but Wolverine has more character development, but still Cyclops should have gotten more screen time and a much bigger role. Why give Wolverine all the plot? Why give him the love story that should be Cyclops'? On a side note have you noticed that Wolverine was pretty much the baby sitter of the X-Men in the movies. I mean seriously.

Rodger-Dodger
11-05-2008, 02:09 PM
The reason I gave two d@mns was because I love his character so much and that he was so undeveloped...he had it good in the first and was on his way to becoming such an awesome character....then..*sigh*

wolverine was originally a Hulk "villain" or enemy. X-men was better before him.

web_head_33
11-05-2008, 02:21 PM
The reason I gave two d@mns was because I love his character so much and that he was so undeveloped...he had it good in the first and was on his way to becoming such an awesome character....then..*sigh*

i agree he was good in the first so y ruin it

King-Kong
11-05-2008, 07:05 PM
you're right... i just wanted to know what realy happened...

did vanderbilt just write a draft so that this guy would write the script?

did the studio not like vanderbilt's draft (or script) and signed someone else to do it?

is david lindsay-abaire gonna team up with vanderbilt to write the script?


Yeah those are questions which we'd all like to know but I don't see us getting answers to them, If he do it'll probably be a while

Masked_Maggot
11-05-2008, 11:33 PM
wolverine was originally a Hulk "villain" or enemy. X-men was better before him.

wow.. i didn't know that

webhead988
11-06-2008, 05:06 PM
You guys seem to be missing something. Cyclops was the leader. He just wasn't the focus. Cyclops may be cool, but Wolverine has more character development, but still Cyclops should have gotten more screen time and a much bigger role. Why give Wolverine all the plot? Why give him the love story that should be Cyclops'? On a side note have you noticed that Wolverine was pretty much the baby sitter of the X-Men in the movies. I mean seriously.

I don't read much of the comics but I know enough. Isn't Cyclops one of the main focuses in the comics, if not the most important character besides Wolverine and Xavier? He is the leader and was present from the very first issue of X-Men and is still present. He deserved the centrole role in the X-Men movies. At very least the 3rd, after Xavier and Wolverine, but nothing less.wolverine was originally a Hulk "villain" or enemy. X-men was better before him.Interesting..

i agree he was good in the first so y ruin it
Exactky. He was already great in X-Men, and there was so much open for him in the sequels. Yet he was reduced to a disappeared character and a cameo.

Arcainite
11-06-2008, 08:12 PM
I don't read much of the comics but I know enough. Isn't Cyclops one of the main focuses in the comics, if not the most important character besides Wolverine and Xavier? He is the leader and was present from the very first issue of X-Men and is still present. He deserved the centrole role in the X-Men movies. At very least the 3rd, after Xavier and Wolverine, but nothing less.Interesting..


Exactky. He was already great in X-Men, and there was so much open for him in the sequels. Yet he was reduced to a disappeared character and a cameo.

The comic does a good job of giving the characters equal time, if not in the same issue, then overall. However, there have been exceptions and those usually lead to them leaving the team....Banshee was a good example of an under-used character from the X-Men.

Jick08
11-07-2008, 05:15 AM
X-men was better before him.
when someone says the words "X-Men", the first thing thing that comes to mind is Wolverine. I'd miss him a lot if he wasn't there.

Masked_Maggot
11-07-2008, 06:07 AM
when someone says the words "X-Men", the first thing thing that comes to mind is Wolverine. I'd miss him a lot if he wasn't there.

what comes on my mind is magneto and proffesor X

Caveboy0
11-07-2008, 12:48 PM
I don't read much of the comics but I know enough. Isn't Cyclops one of the main focuses in the comics, if not the most important character besides Wolverine and Xavier? He is the leader and was present from the very first issue of X-Men and is still present. He deserved the centrole role in the X-Men movies. At very least the 3rd, after Xavier and Wolverine, but nothing less.Interesting..


Exactky. He was already great in X-Men, and there was so much open for him in the sequels. Yet he was reduced to a disappeared character and a cameo.

i'm just talking movie wise. idk comic wise.

webhead988
11-07-2008, 06:15 PM
i'm just talking movie wise. idk comic wise.

He still shouldh've played a much bigger role in the sequels.

Spazzarro
11-09-2008, 06:31 AM
All Spiderman movies were fantastic. However I would like to point out. Spiderman 1 & 2 was a spiderman film with romance on the side. Spiderman 3 was more of a romance movie with spiderman characters. Please please ensure Spiderman 4 & 5 have the romance on the side like 1 & 2.
Also please end the films with the extraordinary CGI of spiderman swinging around like in 1 & 2. It was awesome.

Thanks
thtz aktually a rly good point

Caveboy0
11-09-2008, 06:47 AM
He still shouldh've played a much bigger role in the sequels.

Yeah I know. I didn't say that I didn't want him to have a bigger role just that he was the leader of the X-men in the movies just not the focus of the movie.

webhead988
11-09-2008, 01:51 PM
Yeah I know. I didn't say that I didn't want him to have a bigger role just that he was the leader of the X-men in the movies just not the focus of the movie.

Yeah Wolverine clearly was who was going to be the main focus, even though X is for some reason the first star in the first 2 films. But Cyclops being the leader and the most important X-Men in the entire legacy of the X-Men, should have had at the very least the third most important role.

Caveboy0
11-09-2008, 07:52 PM
Yeah Wolverine clearly was who was going to be the main focus, even though X is for some reason the first star in the first 2 films. But Cyclops being the leader and the most important X-Men in the entire legacy of the X-Men, should have had at the very least the third most important role.

i agree Cyclops definitely needed a bigger role than what he got. since the second movie i wondered why did they create that love triangle. it's supposed to be Jean and Cyclops not Jean and Logan. i mean if they made that relationship like it was supposed too. it would have given Cyclops a little more story.

Caveboy0
11-11-2008, 07:21 PM
Fox is no question the worst of the studios. The other studios come nowhere near the greediness of Fox. It's to the point that Fox doens't even care if a movie is good anymore. Why do you think Fox just had one of their worst years ever in the movie industry? I'm pretty sure they didn't even have 1 fresh movie on rottentomatoes this year.

Your absolutely right on this. You would not believe all the stupid things Fox has been doing lately. I can't remember all of them, but the bigs ones would be the Watchmen situation and well recently I read that there changing the ending of this new movie to be happier because a couple of people thought it was too sad. Where the heck has Fox been lately? Sad endings are good they make money if they aren't corny. Fox has no clue. It's truly frustrating with these guys. :shake:

web_head_33
11-11-2008, 08:38 PM
Your absolutely right on this. You would not believe all the stupid things Fox has been doing lately. I can't remember all of them, but the bigs ones would be the Watchmen situation and well recently I read that there changing the ending of this new movie to be happier because a couple of people thought it was too sad. Where the heck has Fox been lately? Sad endings are good they make money if they aren't corny. Fox has no clue. It's truly frustrating with these guys. :shake:

yeah i also heard about the ending change that is so stupid

Spazzarro
11-12-2008, 01:57 AM
Your absolutely right on this. You would not believe all the stupid things Fox has been doing lately. I can't remember all of them, but the bigs ones would be the Watchmen situation and well recently I read that there changing the ending of this new movie to be happier because a couple of people thought it was too sad. Where the heck has Fox been lately? Sad endings are good they make money if they aren't corny. Fox has no clue. It's truly frustrating with these guys. :shake:
:shake:

webhead988
11-16-2008, 02:45 PM
i agree Cyclops definitely needed a bigger role than what he got. since the second movie i wondered why did they create that love triangle. it's supposed to be Jean and Cyclops not Jean and Logan. i mean if they made that relationship like it was supposed too. it would have given Cyclops a little more story.

It would have given him a much bigger story and a lot more depth! But in the comics there was this hidden affection between the Logan and Jean actually. But it shouldn't have been stretched to the point where they're trying to make you root for Logan and not dislike Cyclops' guts.Your absolutely right on this. You would not believe all the stupid things Fox has been doing lately. I can't remember all of them, but the bigs ones would be the Watchmen situation and well recently I read that there changing the ending of this new movie to be happier because a couple of people thought it was too sad. Where the heck has Fox been lately? Sad endings are good they make money if they aren't corny. Fox has no clue. It's truly frustrating with these guys. :shake:
Really? I heard about that, but not that because it was too sad. But I'm so cclose to finishing the novel, I don't wanna be spoiled. I kinda wishe you hadn't said that it was because it was so sad lol. Now But you didn't really say anuthing directly so that's good!

Jick08
11-17-2008, 05:40 AM
Your absolutely right on this. You would not believe all the stupid things Fox has been doing lately. I can't remember all of them, but the bigs ones would be the Watchmen situation and well recently I read that there changing the ending of this new movie to be happier because a couple of people thought it was too sad. Where the heck has Fox been lately? Sad endings are good they make money if they aren't corny. Fox has no clue. It's truly frustrating with these guys. :shake:
Fox didn't change anything.
the people behind the movie did it. Zack Snyder, I believe. he justified the changes, by the way. I don't know if it's necessarily happy, since I don't want to spoil myself even more, but I believe it's as good as the book's final.
what Fox did was sue Warner Brothers because Watchmen was Fox's property before.

Caveboy0
11-17-2008, 01:26 PM
It would have given him a much bigger story and a lot more depth! But in the comics there was this hidden affection between the Logan and Jean actually. But it shouldn't have been stretched to the point where they're trying to make you root for Logan and not dislike Cyclops' guts.
Really? I heard about that, but not that because it was too sad. But I'm so cclose to finishing the novel, I don't wanna be spoiled. I kinda wishe you hadn't said that it was because it was so sad lol. Now But you didn't really say anuthing directly so that's good!

No! I'm not talking about Watchmen I'm talking about that Australia movie! yes the watchmen ending will change, but I think it was necessary. when you finish you'll be like that was great, but the ending had some corniness that would not work in the movie. trust me.
Australia is the movie Fox wants to make happy instead of what a few people said was a "downer"

webhead988
11-17-2008, 03:42 PM
No! I'm not talking about Watchmen I'm talking about that Australia movie! yes the watchmen ending will change, but I think it was necessary. when you finish you'll be like that was great, but the ending had some corniness that would not work in the movie. trust me.
Australia is the movie Fox wants to make happy instead of what a few people said was a "downer"
Ohhhh. But Watchmen's ending corny for a movie adaptation? Agh whatever lol doesn't matter!

mysteriopwns
11-17-2008, 06:14 PM
No! I'm not talking about Watchmen I'm talking about that Australia movie! yes the watchmen ending will change, but I think it was necessary. when you finish you'll be like that was great, but the ending had some corniness that would not work in the movie. trust me.
Australia is the movie Fox wants to make happy instead of what a few people said was a "downer"

that sucks that they want to change th ending

Caveboy0
11-17-2008, 06:23 PM
Ohhhh. But Watchmen's ending corny for a movie adaptation? Agh whatever lol doesn't matter!

it's a certain aspect not the whole thing that would make people laugh more then it would bring the feeling and tone it gave. great ending, but when i finished it i thought that's going to be changed and don't think Zach Snyder is doing this without a second thought. he knows what he's doing. the ending might change at face value, but it will feel the same. like how Joker was changed appearance wise in TDK, but his character was intact. the overall feel or message will be intact in Watchmen.

webhead988
11-17-2008, 07:46 PM
it's a certain aspect not the whole thing that would make people laugh more then it would bring the feeling and tone it gave. great ending, but when i finished it i thought that's going to be changed and don't think Zach Snyder is doing this without a second thought. he knows what he's doing. the ending might change at face value, but it will feel the same. like how Joker was changed appearance wise in TDK, but his character was intact. the overall feel or message will be intact in Watchmen.

That's good to know. At least they're being true to the essence of the graphic novel.

stephen wolfram
11-20-2008, 07:20 AM
What happened to the guy who wrote Zodiac? Is he off the movie now?

Spider-Tim 075
11-20-2008, 07:28 AM
What happened to the guy who wrote Zodiac? Is he off the movie now?

apparently they are doing various drafts

Caveboy0
11-20-2008, 12:38 PM
apparently they are doing various drafts

I mentioned this before that this happens a lot in movies. The have one guy write a script and then another guy revise it.

Spider-Tim 075
11-20-2008, 12:52 PM
I mentioned this before that this happens a lot in movies. The have one guy write a script and then another guy revise it.

yeah it's a good thing. I think Sony is taking it seriously

Caveboy0
11-20-2008, 12:55 PM
yeah it's a good thing. I think Sony is taking it seriously

I can be a good thing. Different writers different ideas, but who knows maybe the previous script is going in the garbage and that one is better then the one they make the movie on.

web_head_33
11-20-2008, 02:47 PM
yeah it's a good thing. I think Sony is taking it seriously

i think they are

webhead988
11-30-2008, 01:24 PM
it's a certain aspect not the whole thing that would make people laugh more then it would bring the feeling and tone it gave. great ending, but when i finished it i thought that's going to be changed and don't think Zach Snyder is doing this without a second thought. he knows what he's doing. the ending might change at face value, but it will feel the same. like how Joker was changed appearance wise in TDK, but his character was intact. the overall feel or message will be intact in Watchmen.

I just finished Watchmen. Don't know why they'd change the ending, to me it'd work fine on movie. I'm actually worried of what they'd do to the ending because I thought it was pretty awesome. If they do anything with Rorschach's ending I'll be ticked, because his whole ending was the most powerful thing in the whole story to me. But it was a pretty big downer overall like I thought you mentioned earlier.

web_head_33
11-30-2008, 01:28 PM
I just finished Watchmen. Don't know why they'd change the ending, to me it'd work fine on movie. I'm actually worried of what they'd do to the ending because I thought it was pretty awesome. If they do anything with Rorschach's ending I'll be ticked, because his whole ending was the most powerful thing in the whole story to me. But it was a pretty big downer overall like I thought you mentioned earlier.

they're not changing rorschach's ending. i think they said they're changing that squid thing in the end but i think thats pretty much it.

webhead988
11-30-2008, 01:30 PM
they're not changing rorschach's ending. i think they said they're changing that squid thing in the end but i think thats pretty much it.

So instead of an alien it's probably just gonna be some explosion? Yeah I thought that part was a bit far-fetched even in comparing to the whole story.

web_head_33
11-30-2008, 02:01 PM
So instead of an alien it's probably just gonna be some explosion? Yeah I thought that part was a bit far-fetched even in comparing to the whole story.

yeah i think it is an explosion but everything else should be the same. i hope.

webhead988
11-30-2008, 02:04 PM
yeah i think it is an explosion but everything else should be the same. i hope.

Yeah, I actully wouldn't change anything about the ending's storyline if it were up to me.

web_head_33
11-30-2008, 02:23 PM
Yeah, I actully wouldn't change anything about the ending's storyline if it were up to me.

same here it was perfect. the death of rorschach and how ozymandias saved the world and dr. manhattan leaving. it was great

socool83
11-30-2008, 02:52 PM
woah...a lot of spoliers here :p

webhead988
11-30-2008, 06:52 PM
same here it was perfect. the death of rorschach and how ozymandias saved the world and dr. manhattan leaving. it was great
Yeah it was a seriously conflicted ending. Defenitely the most character conflicting ending I've ever read in a graphic novel. Dr. Manhattan murdering Rorschach, Ozymandias killing half of New York to save the world, the Watchmen keeping the secret of it all. Really heavy...woah...a lot of spoliers here :p
And that is why we have spoiler tags haha!

AragornKing1
12-21-2008, 08:41 PM
So have you heard who the villains are going to be in Spider-Man 4, Spider-Tim 075?

Spider-Tim 075
12-22-2008, 11:20 AM
So have you heard who the villains are going to be in Spider-Man 4, Spider-Tim 075?

Nothing has been confirmed my friend. Names that have been rumoured are Vulture, Electro, Lizard and Carnage... But I think you can drop Carnage out of the list.

A while ago a editor in chief of the astonishing spider-man comics said theres a good chance it's

Lizard and Vulture or Lizard and Electro

But nothing has been promised yet and I think news will be rare on this movie until they have finished filming

(they start next fall)

good enough of an update for you buddy? :D

AragornKing1
12-22-2008, 12:23 PM
Is Felicia Hardy rumored to be in it too? And I guess the Lizard and Electro or the Lizard and the Vulture are probably part of Vanderbilt's draft that they're probably changing up but keeping the villains. :D :D

AragornKing1
12-22-2008, 12:25 PM
Oh, and are they filming Spider-Man 4 and 5 back to back?

Spider-Tim 075
12-22-2008, 12:50 PM
Is Felicia Hardy rumored to be in it too? And I guess the Lizard and Electro or the Lizard and the Vulture are probably part of Vanderbilt's draft that they're probably changing up but keeping the villains. :D :D

Haven't heared of Felicia being in it yet. That'll be a mysterie

Oh, and are they filming Spider-Man 4 and 5 back to back?

Yes Confirmed

webhead988
12-22-2008, 01:39 PM
Yes Confirmed
Didn't Sam say they're still considering it but not absolutely sure?

AragornKing1
12-22-2008, 01:39 PM
Hmmmm, so then I wonder who the villains will be in Spider-Man 5. Have you heard who the villains might be in Spider-Man 5?

Ock/Joker fan
12-22-2008, 01:43 PM
Yes Confirmed

It is? You have a link?

webhead988
12-22-2008, 01:45 PM
Hmmmm, so then I wonder who the villains will be in Spider-Man 5. Have you heard who the villains might be in Spider-Man 5?
Nope.It is? You have a link?
It's not confirmed. It's a possibility though.

Spider-Tim 075
12-22-2008, 03:35 PM
It is? You have a link?


It's not confirmed. It's a possibility though.

Yeah I suddenly doubt it. But didn't Toby already sign up for both? 4 and 5 and they said they'd be filming the two in fall? I can't find the bloody link where I read about Toby's pay-check...

Oh O/J if you remember from a previous debate on TDK, I did find the link/interview (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_G0-PO-_iL8&feature=channel_page) again where Christopher Nolan doesn't discribe TDK as a character study but as an action movie.
Not that it matters to much, just to prove I wasn't making up something lol

Jick08
12-22-2008, 03:38 PM
he did signed for two more. Raimi too. but making 4 and 5 back-to-back is still an idea. not officially confirmed.

Spider-Tim 075
12-22-2008, 03:59 PM
he did signed for two more. Raimi too. but making 4 and 5 back-to-back is still an idea. not officially confirmed.

right thanks for clearing that up Jick = it's this that I got mixed up

Ock/Joker fan
12-22-2008, 04:29 PM
Oh O/J if you remember from a previous debate on TDK, I did find the link/interview (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_G0-PO-_iL8&feature=channel_page) again where Christopher Nolan doesn't discribe TDK as a character study but as an action movie.
Not that it matters to much, just to prove I wasn't making up something lol

lol, yet he also says that he expanded the story and built on the characters.

What a contradiction :)

Caveboy0
12-22-2008, 06:31 PM
Yeah I suddenly doubt it. But didn't Toby already sign up for both? 4 and 5 and they said they'd be filming the two in fall? I can't find the bloody link where I read about Toby's pay-check...

Oh O/J if you remember from a previous debate on TDK, I did find the link/interview (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_G0-PO-_iL8&feature=channel_page) again where Christopher Nolan doesn't discribe TDK as a character study but as an action movie.
Not that it matters to much, just to prove I wasn't making up something lol

he didn't say that. the guy asked if the movie was character first then action. he answered by saying that "I wouldn't put it that way" and finished with "it's the story first." he didn't say action first.

webhead988
12-22-2008, 07:11 PM
he didn't say that. the guy asked if the movie was character first then action. he answered by saying that "I wouldn't put it that way" and finished with "it's the story first." he didn't say action first.

I'd find that almost impossible for Nolan to state action before character.

Spider-Tim 075
12-23-2008, 03:10 AM
lol, yet he also says that he expanded the story and built on the characters.

What a contradiction :)

Yeah, When I found this again I having trouble putting it the right way. Indeed he clearly says there are more important things than action, which is also very true. But he did say "I woudln't put it that way" about a "character study first". But yes theres defo a contradition

he didn't say that. the guy asked if the movie was character first then action. he answered by saying that "I wouldn't put it that way" and finished with "it's the story first." he didn't say action first.

"I actually wouldn't put it that way, I'd say it was an action movie but the action is all based around parodox...." so maybe he didn't say action first but he disagreed that it was a character-study first, thats my point

He did to a certain degré m8


But anyway it doesn't matter. This from a previous debate, and I was just showing that I wasn't making anything up. (I would never, lol just to be clear). I can defo be wrong but so can everybody.