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webhead988
01-17-2009, 02:53 PM
Extensive WOLVERINE Reshoots Are Happening
1/15/2009
Posted by Matt ShareThis Buzz up!



Written by Matt Goldberg


Sources have informed us that Fox is conducting extensive re-shoots for "X-Men Origins: Wolverine", some or all of those re-shoots in Vancouver. And by "extensive" we're not talking about a few days of pick-ups. More curious was the studio considered bringing in a few journalists to cover these re-shoots. Now usually re-shoots such as this are done quietly. Studios don't want you to know they done ****ed up and can't get their **** together in the editing room.



As for the production, everyone (and by "everyone", I mean the world of online film journalists) knows that Gavin Hood was not getting to make the movie he wanted while on set. There have been reports of Fox basically going around Hood and micro-managing like they always do. Example: some sets were re-painted because it's what the execs wanted, not what Hood wanted.



There have also been many leaked reports that Richard Donner was on the set in some capacity while they were filming. Some in the online world have speculated that Mr. Donner was doing more than just standing around, casting long, adoring gazes at Taylor Kitsch (although he can hardly be faulted if that was the case). We can neither confirm nor substantiate these claims about Donner since we weren't there and we don't know. But with Gavin Hood helming the re-shoots, Fox and Hood must have come to an understanding and are clearly trying to salvage one of the summer tent-poles of 2009. Let's hope that Fox is spending all this money to finally give fans the movie that they've been clamoring for.



This all leads to the big question: What the hell kind of "Wolverine" movie are they making? Is it ****ING EPIC like the trailer? Is it a softer, perhaps sillier comic book movie like "Fantastic 4"? Or is it true to the bad-*** character of the comics that fans have loved ever since he was introduced back in 1974? Fans want a dark, gritty "Wolverine" movie because that's what the character is. Those adamantium claws aren't for back scratches, they're for back impalements. If "X-Men Origins: Wolverine" is closer to the "PG" side of the tracks than the hard-"PG-13" side where fans want it, then the movie will open huge but when those other big summer releases come along, it will disappear like all off Fox's movies last year.



After 2008 and with this current "Watchmen" fiasco, Fox is in trouble. Here's a list of all the major releases from 20th Century Fox last year:



27 Dresses

Meet the Spartans

Jumper

Nim's Island

What Happens in Vegas

Deception

The Happening

Meet Dave

Space Chimps

The X-File: I Want to Believe

Babylon A.D.

City of Ember

Max Payne

Australia

The Day the Earth Stood Still

Marley & Me



Other than "Marley & Me", this is the gang that couldn't shoot straight. The quality of these films ranges from mediocre to holocaust. It is one of the worst slates in recent memory and Fox needs to do something and they need to do it with "Wolverine".



"Wolverine" is important for multiple reasons: first, if "Wolverine" doesn't go over well, then not only do sequels for that character go away, but other potential spin-offs, such as Deadpool and Gambit and other mutants, also vanish. Second, if Fox screws over a character as popular as "Wolverine", then compounded with the ill-will garnered by their behavior with "Watchmen", the geek community will have their biggest punching bag since George Lucas. Every film that tries to appeal to the coveted 18-34 male demographic will be an uphill battle in terms of marketing and getting that demo excited.



So with these re-shoots, as with any re-shoots, Fox is trying to "fix" the problem. Granted, the problem seems to be their own doing, but at least they're trying to hit the undo-button. Hence, that's why journalists might be invited to the set during the re-shoots—to show everyone how Fox is trying to make good on this movie. Fox is going to spend millions more to make the movie they were supposed to make in the first place.



Sounds great, right? Fox may have finally pulled its head out of its ***. I know I'm giving 20th Century Fox a lot of **** but look at that list of films again. A good handful of those films aren't just bad or forgettable. They're abominations in the eyes of the Lord.



We contacted Fox before running this story to get their comments. Their response is that these shoots were always planned and are intended to capture specific weather conditions. Personally, I think it's better if they're trying to turn a corner in the way they're planning to make movies, but "weather conditions" is their official reasoning for these shoots in Vancouver.



So if Fox is turning a corner, then more power to them. I want to see a great "Wolverine" movie as much as you do. But trust isn't earned overnight and we'll keep following leads and talking to sources to see if Fox can redeem itself with this highly-anticipated movie.

http://www.collider.com/entertainment/news/article.asp/aid/10508/tcid/1

Finally a reporter who speaks my thoughts, except I have 1000 times less hope in Fox than he does. This shows everyone how moronic and juvenile Fox and Rothman have been and probably are still being. So many thought "ohh man trailer's so sick, this movie can't be The Last Stand bad, it must be awesome." There you have it. It's not. The movie already sucks and we haven't even seen it. We know it. Why else would these big reshoots be going on and public? Because Fox finally for the first time maybe in history, acknoledges their idiocy. Perhaps they'll make this movie less horrificly bad than it already is. But my predictions are that the movie is already so bad that heavy reshoots won't help it that much. Crossing my fingers, even though I've been already declared the X-Men series as a whole (even though I loved the first) gone to Hell.

shadow_spidey
01-17-2009, 03:29 PM
What made X-Men: The Last Stand bad was the score. Seriouesly music can either make a movie fantastic or break it. And the score for it broke it for me. And John Powell is a good composer too. He just wans't right for the job.

I mean, look at this trailer for the film and tell me that the music doesn't make it better. Unlike the movie.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1BelsXIy1g&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMPl3h9o_bY&feature=related

Oh, and them killing off Scott also killed the movie.

I mean, if it weren't for the music it would've been so much better. The movie was good. Same thing sort of with X-Men. The music wasn't that good. Except for the little theme for Wolverine and Rogue. That's the best theme out of the whole movie. And this is why X-Men United is the best of the X-Men movies to date.

So, if Fox wants to re-shoot - let them! If it makes the movie better - let them! Don't complain and say other stuff. Just be glad they're doing something right. :) And hopefully the story is good, the acting and the music.

webhead988
01-17-2009, 04:53 PM
What made X-Men: The Last Stand bad was the score. Seriouesly music can either make a movie fantastic or break it. And the score for it broke it for me. And John Powell is a good composer too. He just wans't right for the job.

I mean, look at this trailer for the film and tell me that the music doesn't make it better. Unlike the movie.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1BelsXIy1g&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMPl3h9o_bY&feature=related

Oh, and them killing off Scott also killed the movie.

I mean, if it weren't for the music it would've been so much better. The movie was good. Same thing sort of with X-Men. The music wasn't that good. Except for the little theme for Wolverine and Rogue. That's the best theme out of the whole movie. And this is why X-Men United is the best of the X-Men movies to date.

So, if Fox wants to re-shoot - let them! If it makes the movie better - let them! Don't complain and say other stuff. Just be glad they're doing something right. :) And hopefully the story is good, the acting and the music.

The music in The Last Stand was really childish, and it didn't help the movie at all. Cyclops' butchery also destroyed the movie amognst countless other things. But I thought the score for X-Men was the best out of all of them.

I'm not complaining. I'm pointing out that with these re-shoots I'm having doubt for this movie. If they're needed so badly what does it say about the stability of the movie? I mean, it's good to hear that Fox might actually be waking up here, but how much? Is it enough? I seriously hope so.

Jick08
01-17-2009, 07:30 PM
This is not necessarily bad news, though.
Other big movies, such as The Return of The King had reshots, too.
I trust what Gavin is doing. I think he is a director with willpower and won't let Fox screw his movie.

Jick08
01-17-2009, 07:57 PM
http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr89/shadowy_blue/wolverine.jpg

Jick08
01-17-2009, 08:09 PM
I found it with even bigger quality:
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/2499/hjwolverinebigvp9.jpg

Caveboy0
01-17-2009, 08:14 PM
What made X-Men: The Last Stand bad was the score. Seriouesly music can either make a movie fantastic or break it. And the score for it broke it for me. And John Powell is a good composer too. He just wans't right for the job.

I mean, look at this trailer for the film and tell me that the music doesn't make it better. Unlike the movie.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1BelsXIy1g&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMPl3h9o_bY&feature=related

Oh, and them killing off Scott also killed the movie.

I mean, if it weren't for the music it would've been so much better. The movie was good. Same thing sort of with X-Men. The music wasn't that good. Except for the little theme for Wolverine and Rogue. That's the best theme out of the whole movie. And this is why X-Men United is the best of the X-Men movies to date.

So, if Fox wants to re-shoot - let them! If it makes the movie better - let them! Don't complain and say other stuff. Just be glad they're doing something right. :) And hopefully the story is good, the acting and the music.

no no, you either remember that great score (Batman Begins, Pirates of the Caribbean) or don't really notice or remember it. No matter how bad Batman Forever and Batman and Robin were the score wasn't bad and was memorable.
The only movie I can think of that the music was bad would be Armageddon.(the movie where an asteroid was coming towards earth and they sent a rag tag group of people to plant a nuclear warhead to it and blow it to smithereens) The music was just over powering there was this whole action scene where the ship was crashing and the music played over the whole thing. Couldn't hear anything, but the music. I wanted for that to be a cool action scene with awesome F/X. The music wasn't bad, just misused.

So really music can be great, forgettable, or misused.

shadow_spidey
01-17-2009, 08:23 PM
http://i472.photobucket.com/albums/rr89/shadowy_blue/wolverine.jpgHow could the mess up with such an awesome picture like that? Sigs anyone? ;) :D

no no, you either remember that great score (Batman Begins, Pirates of the Caribbean) or don't really notice or remember it. No matter how bad Batman Forever and Batman and Robin were the score wasn't bad and was memorable.
The only movie I can think of that the music was bad would be Armageddon.(the movie where an asteroid was coming towards earth and they sent a rag tag group of people to plant a nuclear warhead to it and blow it to smithereens) The music was just over powering there was this whole action scene where the ship was crashing and the music played over the whole thing. Couldn't hear anything, but the music. I wanted for that to be a cool action scene with awesome F/X. The music wasn't bad, just misused.

So really music can be great, forgettable, or misused.Well, for The Last Stand it had some memorable themes. Mainly the beginning X-Men theme. But an irritating Brotherhood, Magneto, Phoenix and few other themes. They just didn't go well with the movie. And the music can also change what you're watching. As I pointed out in the trailer. It actually sort of made the acting seem a bit bland. =(

X-Men memorable themes:

Logan and Rogue's theme: X-Men
Ending theme and beginning end credits: X-Men
X-Men theme: X-Men United
Magneto's theme: X-Men United
Phoenix's theme: X-Men United
X-Men theme: X-Men: The Last Stand

There are a few missing for X-Men United - but it has the best score for the three films so far.

luke123
01-17-2009, 09:37 PM
I found it with even bigger quality:
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/2499/hjwolverinebigvp9.jpg

now thats awesome, yeah the reshoots dont scare me. Why do people jump to saying reshoots are bad. They are necessary in some circumstances especially when it has to do with scheduling issues. Gavin Hood is an accomplished director and i also have trust in what hes doing.

Caveboy0
01-17-2009, 09:41 PM
now thats awesome, yeah the reshoots dont scare me. Why do people jump to saying reshoots are bad. They are necessary in some circumstances especially when it has to do with scheduling issues. Gavin Hood is an accomplished director and i also have trust in what hes doing.

if i was a movie director I would kill to be able to do reshoots. I mean you look at the almost finished project and might have these regrets for some things and it would kill me not to be able to improve on it. so yeah, reshoots mean good for me.

luke123
01-18-2009, 06:34 AM
if i was a movie director I would kill to be able to do reshoots. I mean you look at the almost finished project and might have these regrets for some things and it would kill me not to be able to improve on it. so yeah, reshoots mean good for me.

exactly

webhead988
01-18-2009, 08:38 AM
Don'y get me wrong, I think reshoots are good too. It's just with Fox messing things up so much lately I wonder if the movie will still be good. I really do hope to be proven wrong and that the movie is spectacular. But with what Fox has been pulling lately... They've just made me very cinical about them. But my hopes do lie with Hood on this one. And if he's given full creative freedom, here's to hoping this X-Men movie doesn't suck.I found it with even bigger quality:
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/2499/hjwolverinebigvp9.jpg
Now that, is cool.

Jick08
01-18-2009, 02:22 PM
Email from Hugh Jackman regarding WOLVERINE reshoots!

Hey folks, Harry here... Apparently Hugh tried to send this to me yesterday. I never received his email. Today, a concerned fairy godmother connected loosely between myself and the man-god Hugh Jackman, tells me that apparently I'm ignoring an email from Hugh Jackman. Interesting... so we begin a series of communications via another party between Hugh and I... and sure enough we discover that I can not get mail from FOX.COM. Apparently they can't send out to me, yet I can mail in. INTERESTING. Suffice to say, we worked out the tech angles and I got the email and the picture from Hugh.
Now, before we go on to this - you should know that officially this is what is happening. You won't hear from any official source the problems that have occurred on this film. That said, there is very very good news. DARK KNIGHT's rather phenomenal success is helping the creatives behind WOLVERINE to unleash the sort of Wolverine that we're hoping for, let's hope for the best, cuz honestly wouldn't we all want an amazing WOLVERINE movie... set in Japan... ahem. HELLFIRE CLUB... well, if we are ever to see any of that - this one has to work. Let's hope that the work in frozen Vancouver will do exactly that.

Hey Mate- Would you mind posting this? Thank you for your support! HJ

Hey everyone -

It's Hugh Jackman, sending this note from freezing Vancouver. I have read a lot of your online comments regarding the footage that we are currently shooting and I share your passion for the Wolverine character and the movie - I owe it all to you guys!

I wanted to reach out and let you know that due to scheduling conflicts with certain cast members and location/weather considerations, we had to wait until now to shoot a couple of scenes. Please rest assured that WOLVERINE will be badass and hopefully meet all of your expectations. I am stoked by the positive response to the teaser, which clearly reflects the tone and scope of the film. If you like that, we've got much more in store!

In the meantime, here's an exclusive shot of some characters you may recognize...

Cheers,

Hugh

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/39807

Caveboy0
01-18-2009, 03:18 PM
Email from Hugh Jackman regarding WOLVERINE reshoots!

Hey folks, Harry here... Apparently Hugh tried to send this to me yesterday. I never received his email. Today, a concerned fairy godmother connected loosely between myself and the man-god Hugh Jackman, tells me that apparently I'm ignoring an email from Hugh Jackman. Interesting... so we begin a series of communications via another party between Hugh and I... and sure enough we discover that I can not get mail from FOX.COM. Apparently they can't send out to me, yet I can mail in. INTERESTING. Suffice to say, we worked out the tech angles and I got the email and the picture from Hugh.
Now, before we go on to this - you should know that officially this is what is happening. You won't hear from any official source the problems that have occurred on this film. That said, there is very very good news. DARK KNIGHT's rather phenomenal success is helping the creatives behind WOLVERINE to unleash the sort of Wolverine that we're hoping for, let's hope for the best, cuz honestly wouldn't we all want an amazing WOLVERINE movie... set in Japan... ahem. HELLFIRE CLUB... well, if we are ever to see any of that - this one has to work. Let's hope that the work in frozen Vancouver will do exactly that.

Hey Mate- Would you mind posting this? Thank you for your support! HJ

Hey everyone -

It's Hugh Jackman, sending this note from freezing Vancouver. I have read a lot of your online comments regarding the footage that we are currently shooting and I share your passion for the Wolverine character and the movie - I owe it all to you guys!

I wanted to reach out and let you know that due to scheduling conflicts with certain cast members and location/weather considerations, we had to wait until now to shoot a couple of scenes. Please rest assured that WOLVERINE will be badass and hopefully meet all of your expectations. I am stoked by the positive response to the teaser, which clearly reflects the tone and scope of the film. If you like that, we've got much more in store!

In the meantime, here's an exclusive shot of some characters you may recognize...

Cheers,

Hugh

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/39807

Wow, Hugh Jackman sounds like a really nice guy.

Jick08
01-18-2009, 04:54 PM
^^One of my favorite actors.

webhead988
01-18-2009, 05:20 PM
Email from Hugh Jackman regarding WOLVERINE reshoots!

Hey folks, Harry here... Apparently Hugh tried to send this to me yesterday. I never received his email. Today, a concerned fairy godmother connected loosely between myself and the man-god Hugh Jackman, tells me that apparently I'm ignoring an email from Hugh Jackman. Interesting... so we begin a series of communications via another party between Hugh and I... and sure enough we discover that I can not get mail from FOX.COM. Apparently they can't send out to me, yet I can mail in. INTERESTING. Suffice to say, we worked out the tech angles and I got the email and the picture from Hugh.
Now, before we go on to this - you should know that officially this is what is happening. You won't hear from any official source the problems that have occurred on this film. That said, there is very very good news. DARK KNIGHT's rather phenomenal success is helping the creatives behind WOLVERINE to unleash the sort of Wolverine that we're hoping for, let's hope for the best, cuz honestly wouldn't we all want an amazing WOLVERINE movie... set in Japan... ahem. HELLFIRE CLUB... well, if we are ever to see any of that - this one has to work. Let's hope that the work in frozen Vancouver will do exactly that.

Hey Mate- Would you mind posting this? Thank you for your support! HJ

Hey everyone -

It's Hugh Jackman, sending this note from freezing Vancouver. I have read a lot of your online comments regarding the footage that we are currently shooting and I share your passion for the Wolverine character and the movie - I owe it all to you guys!

I wanted to reach out and let you know that due to scheduling conflicts with certain cast members and location/weather considerations, we had to wait until now to shoot a couple of scenes. Please rest assured that WOLVERINE will be badass and hopefully meet all of your expectations. I am stoked by the positive response to the teaser, which clearly reflects the tone and scope of the film. If you like that, we've got much more in store!

In the meantime, here's an exclusive shot of some characters you may recognize...

Cheers,

Hugh

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/39807

I really respect Hugh for his sincere passion for the character.