Future Spidey Film Costumes?

[Venom_Sting]

Do you think they'll change the costume he has now to a different one in any sequels, like the Ben Reilly costume for instance?

Also if Venom does appear in a sequel what colour would he be? it's not as stupid as it sounds, I was looking through the Venom: Lethal Protector comics and Venom looked more Blue than Black also in the Marvel Vs Capcom games Venom is blue in colour as well, so it got me thinking is Venom blue or is he black answers on a postcard please ;)

[Symbspid]

Venom is BLACK!!!! The blue you saw was the light hitting his costume. SHEEEEESH!!!!

[EnderW]

heh yeah, its called shadding:)

[arcticspyder]

Venom is black. The blue that you are talking about was used to add depth ands contour to him. I have him tattooed on my right should, he is black with a white spider on his chest.

[arcticspyder]

Venom is black. The blue that you are talking about was used to add depth ands contour to him. I have him tattooed on my right shoulder, he is black with a white spider on his chest.

[Venom_Sting]

That's what I thought but if Venom is black then shouldn't the shading or light reflected from him be grey not blue? it seems A lot of blue shading if you ask me, almost like the blue on Spidey's costume shown here:

http://www.vengeance-unlimited.org/Spidey/SpideyVenom.jpg

Also tell me why the Marvel Vs Capcom game has Venom coloured entirely blue, there's no black on him at all and seeing as Marvel had final say over how their characters were portrayed in the game it seems odd, doesn't it?

I always thought and always will assume that he is black but has Marvel ever mentioned his colour before? I think we need some answers from them?

[Venom_Sting]

In case the picture above is too big for you:

http://www.vengeance-unlimited.org/Spidey/SpideyVenom01.jpg

[Jerry_S]

I hope they leave the costumes the way they are in the comic books. For this movie and any future sequels.

[whitespider]

venom is jet black the blue that you see in light from somthing that makes it look blue its a artist trick called........shading........**** theres some dumb *** people in the world to day

[whitespider]

spideys outfit looks very good all most like his comic look but cooler very warrior like and goblin is **** ranger looken so its all good go to www.spidermanhype.com (http://www.spidermanhype.com) to see for your self

[Symbspid]

Come on, Venom Sting, don't you realize that Capcom is cheap on animation when it comes to...what the heck, EVERYTHING!!!

[This message was edited by Guide_Irish on 10.30.01 at 15:28.]

[artmonkey]

YES....Venom is black.

NO....the blues you see are NOT called shading. They are called HIGHLIGHTS... "**** theres some dumb people in the world to day "(Sorry, whitespider). Highlights are generally bright lightsources reflecting or bouncing off of a surface. The highlight color is the same color as it's lightsource.

YES...the blue you see in comic books and art is used to show some depth and form on the character. Otherwise he would just be a big blob of black ink and look very flat. Theoretically, the highlights on Venom should reflect whatever color light is around him, but in comics blue just simply looks cool on him.

My opinion on Venom's movie costume:
Venom looks cool as is (in the comics). In the movie, I imagine him done in CG (of course) with the big mouth, viscious teeth, and that long slimy tongue. The symbiote should be black and slimy like liquid black tar. The only thing I would lose is the white spider(as cool as it may look) simply because it probably wouldn't translate well to film. The same way Hugh Jackman would have looks silly in yellow spandex.

[This message was edited by Guide_Irish on 10.30.01 at 15:31.]

[whitespider]

dude i know what it is called i have been drawing for 15 years and yes it is called highlighting but when it is started out its a form of shading but any way why whould you take some thing out of venom the spider is his tradmark take that way and hes **** have you ever seen the punisher movie thats one of the mistake that the movie suck.

[artmonkey]

Yeah you're probably right about the trademark spider. I just think a white emblem would not translate well to live action.

Okay, keep the spider trademark, but maybe make it like a black matte (dull)finish on the shiny slimy black symbiote. That may look pretty cool.›

[spidey7272]

Amid The Chaos, There comes A Costume--!

Some of you Cartoon fans may not realize the original origin. Was Black then and it's still Black.

[Rick_Knight]

Yeah dudes, not that I'm any expert but the 'original' story was subtitled 'The black costume' and PP makes several references to 'The black costume in subsequent story arcs.null

[demongolblin]

VENOM IS BLACK AND THATS THAT. LOOK AT ALL THE COMICS HE'S BLACK IN EVERY ONE OF THEM
THE BLUE YOU SEE IS FOR THE CONTURE OF THE COMIC

[demongolblin]

WHAT WILL HIS COSTUME LOOK LIKE IN THE MOVIE .
MAKE IT COOL AND DETAILED.<(^._.^)>

[Metatronic]

Well I think that the consensus is clear, we all agree that the venom costume is black as of course spidey gained the symbiote from the beyonders planet back in Secret Wars, as to the blue highlights, while it is true that the colour of thelight source is an important factor, it is also a fact thac black is not a primary colour but a combination of all the primary colours, which means that there as strange as it may seem different shades of black, in venoms case it could be that the costume contains a great deal blue which would indicate that any refection would show up with blue hue...sort science lesson for y'all

[SpiderCarnage01]

Isn't it obvious? Venom is black you say he's blue cause of the game Marvel vs Capcom well there is more than one colour for each character you know. Hell they made Mega-Man red in that game and the Hulk grey.

[ross8452]

Not to get off the subject...but the hulk was grey for a short while in the comics......anyways back to business

[Timberwulf]

What many of you youngsters may not realize is that not only is Venom black and always has been, but Spider-Man's costume itself was originally red and BLACK, not red and blue. As one poster pointed out, the blues are used as highlights in oder to add detail to what would otherwise be a flat black on a two dimensional comic page. In Jack Kirby's original design the part of the Spider-Man costume not covered in webbing was black with a few trace blue highlights. Over the years, the inkers got lazy and left out more and more of the black and left the colorists to fill in the open areas with blue, leading to the red and blue costume familiar today. Now you know.

[whitespider]

your rite it was red and black but now i dont remember the year but it turn from black to blue

[elektro]

ok you guys here is the lesson of the day:

What is the origin of Venom? Right, Venom originates from the symbiote "B L A C K Costume" that Spidey brought back from the secret wars, So, If the symbiote "BLACK Costume with a big-***-White-Spider" is BLACk why would you think that NOW VENOM suddenly turned Blue. C'mon you guys this is depressing that you don't even know the origins.


Somone please Change Subject in this ROOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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[kaiken]

okay i think you guys bagged on him enough the suit is black..

[Spidon]

While we're all on the obvious fact that Venom is black, not blue, how many people know that Spider-Man was red and black, not red and blue. It was the same thing as with venom, blue was used on the black to show some 3D effect. yet, somehow it became that Spider-Man was red and blue, even though I think the red and black was cooler. Just FYI

[SinSeer]

Not to pick nits, But i do remember a time when the Hulk was grey. 'Thought he was pretty cool, in a vicious-nasty only comin' out at night kinda' way.
(I realize This is still a spidey posting page, but at least we're sticking with Marvel.)

[cutto8]

The Venom costume should remaithe same in the film.
Although some Hollywood fruitcakes would most likely give him chaps. (Joel Scheumacher). the costume is simple and should remain the same removing the white spider emblem from his chest would take away the characters identity. That's similar to taking away batmans emblem. A prime example is the Punisher movie the *** that directed that film didn't want it to be too comic booky!! Prime example of a Hollywood IDIOT!! I believe that movie SUCKED!!! Spiderman shouldn't disappoint, I pesonally would have liked them to have kept the idea of the webshooters the same, and do GreenGoblins actual costume. He looks too much like RoboCop. But I guess the Brains at Sony want a modern version. These people in Hollywood always improvise when they have a bluprint for the stories and characters in their hands: it's called a COMIC BOOK.
Xmen was fairly lame, Though very good acting and a good story, but it wasn't the true Xmen. I'm a film student and a translation can be done correctly, but when you have people who have no idea about the source material up until two months before they work on the film really don't have a clue or care about the source material.
Rather they see dollar signs in its exploytation.
Marvel is a prime example of this. Appeasing the owners of their stock. jack kirby would be rolling over in his grave.
As far as Venom is concerned he is the color black with blue shading highlights. In actuallity he'd be black with grey shading, but this was the intention of his creators and it still kicks *** to this day!! Venom was originally to be a female character to appear in Web of spiderman. During the disappearence of Peter parker, as Peter was pushed onto the track of a subway train as his spider sense never went off. The story was forgotten as coincidence and later introduced Eddie Brock as the true Venom. Just an FYI for you Venom fans out there. The movie should be quite good as Sam Raimi is a very good director and this may lead to another sequel to Evil Dead again.
All we can do is cross our fingers!!

[Hybrid86]

I think the symbiote of venom is really a very dark blue so when a certain light is shed on him he looks as if hes more blue

[PhiliX]

Hey there!

I think U all take this discussion too serios!

I personally think it a matter of depth! but who really cares as long as the symbiont changes between black an blue to make a movement look realistic ?

well - and we even don't know whether he appears at all!!

isn't it ironic...
PhiliX

[DOCCOCK]

PLEASE STUPID PEOPLE!!! HERES THE CORRECT ANSWER......

REMEMBER THE COSTUME IS ACTUALLY A LIVING THING, SO IMAGINE ITS VERY WATERY AND FLUID, LIKE A JELLY FISH.....
ITS A VERY DARK BLUE...AND READS BLACK TO THE HUMAN EYE, BUT WHEN HIT WITH A LIGHT IT GIVES OFF A BLUE HIGHTLIGHT ..... I SHOULD KNOW I INKED HIM FOR 2 YEARS

[_GwenStacy_]

Well, if he's black they should make him black. I went to that page, he looks the same color as the blue in Spideys outfit. You guys say it's shading or highlighting, whatever, he would still have a lot of black, with only a small amount of blue shading or highlights. Call me dumb if you want to, I know I'm not. Chew on that for a while.

[stinkytwinkie]

Ã* wonder if any of you know that the hulk was originally grey. in THE INCREDIBLE HULK #1 (1962) he was grey, but was changed to green in issue #2, 'cause Stan Lee thought it looked better.

[Chinaman]

Have you guys figured this all out yet? I found the colours conversation very amusing at first, but now it's getting tired.

Anyway, in responce to the original question: what costume changes they'll make in future movies. I didn't notice the webs under his arms in trailer. I think they'll probably add that. Maybe give it a little more eye catching though. Whatever they do, I just hope they don't bastardise the costume too much... Otherwise do a good job on it.

[beatnik]

For the movie it can be a solid black costume with blue streak primal patterns which contours and shapes around Venom's body reminiscent of a Pacific Island warrior.

The new Spider Costume should be alot like what the current movie costume is except solid Black with an alternate white spider design across the front.

--just an idea!

[cyphon_spider]

Those of you who don't know about comic book coloring...the old comics with the blue portrayed is part highlight, part coloring system. ROYGBIV...Red, Orange, Yellow, Green, Blue, Indigo,and Violet, when you that's how the computer translated the color back then. (if you noticed, the comics had dots on them...not the same technology we have now) but waaaaaay back in the Alien Costume Saga, where the symbiote came from, (I have an original copy by the way) the highlights are for some odd reason blue. I guess the sun and EVERY light source is blue in those comics.

[woosyJ]

Dear all,
If you look carefully, all comics use blue to highlight ALL forms in black so you can see the texture.

I hope this closes the topic of discussion!

[AnthonyG73]

"a fact thac black is not a primary colour but a combination of all the primary colours" ok folks. black is not a combination of primary colors. black is a unique color. greyish-brown is what you get when you mix all the primaries (it is called a teriatary color) white is what you get if you mix all primary colors of light. the highlights of blue used on venom is the same as that used on the batman comic (his costume is also black, but in the comic is usually drawn as grey and blue). as previously stated they use this to give a 3d appearance to 2D drawings. i think you all are takeing spidey a lil' to serious if the movie is written, directed, and acted properly then the costumes should make lil difference, if the story isnt there then the movie is going to suck, period. (eg captain america, tomb raider, fantastic four). if done properly marvel will have another hit like xmen, if not it will bomb, only time will tell.