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Like-Marvel
07-25-2004, 02:16 AM
first:anybody want see green goblin again?(ok,he would look changed to the first maybe stronger....)>i dont want see him again,on condition that i can see THE LIZARD too in the movie

second:spiderman/pete would know that harry is behind the mask,because he knew that the first was norman!understand me?

whats your opinion?

punchline
07-25-2004, 11:49 AM
true, it would suck to have same person

Spidergurl4302
07-25-2004, 12:40 PM
i dont want GG2 but i wouldnt mind it because there still would be a new villian the lizard and id like to see how peter would handle trying to fight his best friend so it would be exactly the same as the first green goblin

Incredible_Hulk
07-25-2004, 03:13 PM
At the end we could have a detective figure out that everyone who comes into contact with Peter Parker becomes a supervillain and dies. LOL.

Look out Aunt May!!!!!

the next spider-girl
07-25-2004, 07:24 PM
ROFL!!!

seeker515
07-26-2004, 06:59 AM
Originally posted by Like-Marvel
second:spiderman/pete would know that harry is behind the mask,because he knew that the first was norman!understand me?
That's not true. Spider-Man doesn't know that Harry found that stash of Goblin gear in the secret room.

I imagine Spidey's first response when he sees the Goblin coming after him would be something like, "But, I saw you die!" Just the initial shock of seeing him again. It will probably allow Harry/Goblin to get a couple of good shots in.

Pretty quickly Spidey will realize it's just someone else in the suit, and he'll start to fight back, but he has no way of knowing it's Harry in the Goblin suit.

the next spider-girl
07-26-2004, 07:12 AM
Originally posted by seeker515
That's not true. Spider-Man doesn't know that Harry found that stash of Goblin gear in the secret room.

I imagine Spidey's first response when he sees the Goblin coming after him would be something like, "But, I saw you die!" Just the initial shock of seeing him again. It will probably allow Harry/Goblin to get a couple of good shots in.

Pretty quickly Spidey will realize it's just someone else in the suit, and he'll start to fight back, but he has no way of knowing it's Harry in the Goblin suit. Yeah, almost everyone seems convinced that GG wouldn't work in the third movie. But if they did it right, it definitely could.

olderfan
07-26-2004, 07:20 AM
You have by far the coolest signature pic on the boards, next s-g.

the next spider-girl
07-26-2004, 07:25 AM
Really? Thanks!!! :D :D

Astro4
07-26-2004, 03:46 PM
I don't think the story would just be the GG coming back. They would make it into a better story and make the problem much worse. Plus Raimi said that Harry might not even become the GG.

black_cat42
07-26-2004, 04:17 PM
I'd like to see Harry as a Goblin. He'd make a formidable opponent, since he wouldn't want to hurt his friend... and if they do the Lizard too.... "Don't hurt Curt!" Have to defeat two villains without hurting them... hmmm....

And even worse- after the intial shock of seeing the Goblin again, he might suspect who's under the mask and that can lead to like guilty self-abasement sort of thing.

the next spider-girl
07-26-2004, 06:56 PM
Yes, it'd certainly be different than anything we have seen. I think it could turn out really good.

Ken of Taiwan
07-26-2004, 08:03 PM
Just because Harry finds the mask doesn't mean he's going to become Green Goblin. Actually, I think Harry would stop blaming Spiderman for killing his father. I mean Harry knows that GG is a bad guy and needs to be stopped, but he just doesn't know that the GG is his father. He hates spiderman because he thinks that spiderman kills his father for no reason, but now he knows that his father is guilty and deserves to be punished. So..I think finding out that Norman is the GG will not turn Harry into GG2 but let Harry forgive Spiderman. Also, I don't think Harry knows how to change himself into a GG. You saw that in the film already, it's really complicated. He has to transform the green liquid to green gas first, and then he has to inhale the gas, and then someone has to do CPR to him.......... I don't think he can do it.

mr.excellent
07-26-2004, 08:11 PM
I liked the Green Goblin. And now that they have better technology, they could take the flying scenes to a whole new level.I just hope that Spider-man 2 can hold out and make the same amount of money as it's predecessor. The box office has slowed down a lot thanks to Cat Woman and I-robot, and The Bourne Supremecy. Stupid movies, I hate them!! Just kidding. Anyways, I still don't think that Doc Ock is dead. And GG would allow for another all out dog fight, and this time, Peter would probably be the dominant fighter since he knows how to fight now. The Lizard would be cool to have sort of. I loved the second movie. It was more serious and emotionally driving than I could've imagined. But for 210 million, possibly more, I wish they would've given us a little more fighting. Even if it was just Spidey vs. some gang. For once, can't Spidey just lose it and completely go psycho for a second or two while he's beating the bad guy. Throw a car PP, throw a car!!! Whoa, I promised myself I'd stop calling him that. Yeah, I think that story would work. They could even have scenes where Peter is having vicious nightmares of Norman Osbourne coming back to haunt him, make it complex with action. This is Raimi's last Spidey movie, he's proved his point twice already. He's making love stories. Now, just throw in a little more action and EVERYONE is happy...er.

Jason Martell
07-27-2004, 03:57 PM
Originally posted by Ken of Taiwan
Just because Harry finds the mask doesn't mean he's going to become Green Goblin. Actually, I think Harry would stop blaming Spiderman for killing his father. I mean Harry knows that GG is a bad guy and needs to be stopped, but he just doesn't know that the GG is his father. He hates spiderman because he thinks that spiderman kills his father for no reason, but now he knows that his father is guilty and deserves to be punished. So..I think finding out that Norman is the GG will not turn Harry into GG2 but let Harry forgive Spiderman. Also, I don't think Harry knows how to change himself into a GG. You saw that in the film already, it's really complicated. He has to transform the green liquid to green gas first, and then he has to inhale the gas, and then someone has to do CPR to him.......... I don't think he can do it.
in the comic book I believe Harry Osborn eventually uses LSD, and it gives him some mental problems, which ultimately lead to him taking up his fathers role. But I could be wrong.

the next spider-girl
07-27-2004, 04:32 PM
Originally posted by Jason Martell
in the comic book I believe Harry Osborn eventually uses LSD, and it gives him some mental problems, which ultimately lead to him taking up his fathers role. But I could be wrong. I think you're right, it was some sort of illegal drug.

Carnage3987
07-27-2004, 04:51 PM
Originally posted by Ken of Taiwan
Just because Harry finds the mask doesn't mean he's going to become Green Goblin. Actually, I think Harry would stop blaming Spiderman for killing his father. I mean Harry knows that GG is a bad guy and needs to be stopped, but he just doesn't know that the GG is his father. He hates spiderman because he thinks that spiderman kills his father for no reason, but now he knows that his father is guilty and deserves to be punished. So..I think finding out that Norman is the GG will not turn Harry into GG2 but let Harry forgive Spiderman. Also, I don't think Harry knows how to change himself into a GG. You saw that in the film already, it's really complicated. He has to transform the green liquid to green gas first, and then he has to inhale the gas, and then someone has to do CPR to him.......... I don't think he can do it.

He could be, might not. No one knows for sure HOW the script might turn up, depending on when Sam Raimi might return. Otherwise, I wouldn't mind the second Green Goblin to appear, if you want to stay true to the comics of course.

Spider Venom81912
07-27-2004, 05:08 PM
If Harry has to be a villan,I bet they will twist it up and make him Hobgoblin.Yes I know Harry is the GG2 but it is the movies and twists do come with the territory.I myself would rather see Hobgoblin then another Greengoblin.

Carnage3987
07-27-2004, 05:42 PM
Originally posted by Spider Venom81912
If Harry has to be a villan,I bet they will twist it up and make him Hobgoblin.Yes I know Harry is the GG2 but it is the movies and twists do come with the territory.I myself would rather see Hobgoblin then another Greengoblin.

Great idea! I was just thinking the same thing.

the next spider-girl
07-27-2004, 05:42 PM
Yeah, maybe Harry would change the colors of the suit or something... And there'd probably be a good reason behind it too, I just can't think of one at the moment. Lol.
I swear, though, there is one somewhere in my brain.

Spider Venom81912
07-27-2004, 08:48 PM
I got a Idea why he could change the color.So Spider-man wouldnt go public about who the GG was and trash his fathers name.Or something similar to why he would change the name and color.

THWIPP!
07-28-2004, 08:34 AM
Originally posted by Like-Marvel
first:anybody want see green goblin again
YES! But the dilemma for me is that I want to see Harry as the second Green Goblin, but not in that costume.

Maybe Harry could make his first appearance in his father's costume--causing an impact on spidey (he still doesn't know that Harry is the one wearing the costume and he saw Norman die, etc)... but then, during a fight, something happens to the costume--or the mask, at least--and Harry has to change the costume. As simple as that. Too weak?

spidergirl_4ever
07-28-2004, 12:51 PM
I would also like to see harry as the next GG but they should change the costume I don't think audiences would enjoy seeing the same costume, maybe a splash of PURPLE or YELLOW to give it and UMPH!:D lol

punkspiderman
07-29-2004, 01:44 PM
Originally posted by Ken of Taiwan
Just because Harry finds the mask doesn't mean he's going to become Green Goblin. Actually, I think Harry would stop blaming Spiderman for killing his father. I mean Harry knows that GG is a bad guy and needs to be stopped, but he just doesn't know that the GG is his father. He hates spiderman because he thinks that spiderman kills his father for no reason, but now he knows that his father is guilty and deserves to be punished. So..I think finding out that Norman is the GG will not turn Harry into GG2 but let Harry forgive Spiderman. Also, I don't think Harry knows how to change himself into a GG. You saw that in the film already, it's really complicated. He has to transform the green liquid to green gas first, and then he has to inhale the gas, and then someone has to do CPR to him.......... I don't think he can do it.




according to the book,harry laughs the laugh of the green goblin so i think hes most likely going to be the villian

venom123456789
07-29-2004, 05:28 PM
By: Like-Marvel
first:anybody want see green goblin again?(ok,he would look changed to the first maybe stronger....)>i dont want see him again,on condition that i can see THE LIZARD too in the movie

second:spiderman/pete would know that harry is behind the mask,because he knew that the first was norman!understand me?

whats your opinion?

I dont want another goblin! that would be overdoing it! Think about it, Dr. Connors was never really introduced. All you could find out was he was peters teacher at the university and it would be too random for another villain except Venom to appear. So maybe The lizard isnt such a good idea... We had a great introduction to john jameson who was also a astronaut who just so happened to find the symbiote then Harry turns in the GG costume and since Jameson has something to do with the army considiring how hes dressed maybe he had something to do with taking it and investigating it. Maybe then he stole it because he thought he had nothing more in his life also considiring that he lost mary jane to parker. He takes the costume and wants to hunt down parker with it. Now the villain is Hobgoblin. That was all just my idea. I know its probably not to good and I probably forgot a alot of details but It was just a thot to the begining

Softballbratme
07-29-2004, 06:51 PM
OMG!! I hope that the 3rd one their can be more then one villian and doc oct didn't die and harry should be GG2 and they have to add a new character... most likly the lizard because in the second one they show doctor conners and how he liked pete as a student and thinks he is brilliant in science! and think of the special effects! and besides the movie gets boringafter seeing 2 movies with one villian! and something should happen to MJ! And this might not follow the comics ( well kind of) but i thnk they should marry and peter has to keep asking MJ but she says no until they are at an airport( actual fact from the ulitmate spiderman book) omg if this would be the movie plot i woul see this movie a million times!!!!

the next spider-girl
07-29-2004, 07:44 PM
Originally posted by THWIPP!
YES! But the dilemma for me is that I want to see Harry as the second Green Goblin, but not in that costume.

Maybe Harry could make his first appearance in his father's costume--causing an impact on spidey (he still doesn't know that Harry is the one wearing the costume and he saw Norman die, etc)... but then, during a fight, something happens to the costume--or the mask, at least--and Harry has to change the costume. As simple as that. Too weak? Yes, something as simple as that could work! I think so, anyone else?

suspence__
08-01-2004, 01:50 PM
Originally posted by Jason Martell
in the comic book I believe Harry Osborn eventually uses LSD, and it gives him some mental problems, which ultimately lead to him taking up his fathers role. But I could be wrong.
i dont think that the cpr in the 1st film was necessary

suspence__
08-01-2004, 01:55 PM
the 1st green goblin was strong enough spidey just outsmarted him
remember there was an attachment to gg's glider when hobgoblin flew it in the comics
harry might drink that formula which changed norman

Sampo99
08-04-2004, 06:07 PM
Harry will be a goblin in the next movie. They spent too much time building on it with him seeing things, fighting with peter about it and drinking too much like norman did in the 1st movie. Anybody else notice that doctor connors is his teacher in 2 but is the employer who fires him for being late in the 1st one. (Its the scene where norman is on the phone and harry asks peter for help with study)

black_cat42
08-04-2004, 09:34 PM
I'd really like to see Harry vrs. Peter in 3.
Notice how there are 2 gliders hidden away behing the mirror?
Hmmm.... He could crash one while just starting out but still be in the game... :o