If Spiderman Series goes to 6 movies then...

[rberglberg]

If the Spiderman Series goes to 6 movies with the same cast then this is what I think should happen;

Sony is already preparing for six movies. I thought that it would just go from blander to blander material but have looked about found how they can perfectly lay out this series so that it is constantly interesting yet building upon each other. It is the best way to show the diversity and realism of the villians that Spiderman meets during his New York life. Three is a good number of movies if you have nothing else to work with and the comics have a large amounts of interesting villians compared to dumb and they all deserve a chance. I personally think this is the perfect layout of the movies;

Spiderman 1
Green Goblin
Spiderman 2
Doctor Octopus
Spiderman 3
Lizard
Green Goblin 2
Spiderman 4
Chameleon
Sandman
Spiderman 5
Carnage (Judas Travellar to separate)
Electro/Mysterio*
Spiderman 6
Venom (end with a bang)

* Depending on which is more realistic and more suitable for the characters in the movie series

As for the ones that I chose with the last three movies;
Sandman- A great graphical human who you can do a lot with plus have a good number of battles with him so that the effects can be startling. Tobey Maquire likes Sandman which tells me that Sam Raimi will probably do him in the fourth movie plus he is an awesome villian.

Chameleon- Sandman cannot be alone but I don't think another action packed villian is the right path. I think that with Spiderman being an action packed character driven movie, Chameleon, who can change the characters and the way the other characters feel about them by becoming them, is the right pick so that the suspense can be keep up plus you can do a really cool part where Peter stabs who you think is Harry or Sandman or someone who would change the plot with it really being Chameleon because he knew.

Carnage*- a creepy villian with a interesting character that will surely make for an interesting movie as Spiderman will have some pretty tough battles with Carnage plus Carnage is a very scary villian something that we haven't had yet. This would be a great pick for the fifth movie.

Electro*- A great villian with a pretty cool start by getting struck by lightning. His battles would be pretty electrifining and exciting but the costume may be something to bring him down unless something is done to bring the color down. Also there may be some problems with battles as spiderman can't touch him.

Mysterio*- A cool villian being a special effects director and is a villian on making illusions and would includes some twists in battles that none of the other villians would have. It would be pretty interesting although they can't have his voice be like in the game for Spiderman 2- like a alien.

Venom- A awesome ending to an awesome series. This would be the ultimate battle where Spiderman would squarely beat Venom and then continue to face villians in the future. They could end with Spiderman swinging and then have him say I am sure that in the future I will have many villians, but Spiderman will always truimph. Then they could go through Spiderman's eye to see a quick 50-60 second view of some of the other villians as they die maybe only showing 5-10 seconds for each villian or a little more. Perfect ending to a perfect series.

*Out of these three villians only two will be chosen or possibily one, I have not made my decision if Carnage would be the ultimate one followed by venom but yet he may be too violent. Electro i don't really like because of his costume but they can change that like they changed Doctor Octopus' lab suit. Mysterio is a pretty good villian like I found out in the Spiderman 2 video game plus he is a movie special effect director which is pretty cool. I still need to do some thinking about these three.

I have been reading some more and have figured out what to do with Peter's girlfriends and what to do about Peter's friend. If they don't kill off Harry in the 3rd movie and keep him nice then ignore the facts about the new friendship of Peters but if they do this is what they should do.

Spiderman
Betty Brant
Mary Jane
Spiderman 2
Mary Jane
Ursela
Betty Brant
Spiderman 3
Mary Jane*
Betty Brant**
Gwen Stacy***
Spiderman 4
Glory Grant (not big)
Gwen Stacy
Spiderman 5
Glory Grant (not big)
Gwen Stacy
Spiderman 6
Black Cat
Glory Grant (not big)

* Something has to happen, I think that if Mary Jane gets married to Peter than two things are going to happen, Either they are going to end the series there or they are going to have to divorce them. Personally I think they should have Mary Jane have a fatal accident like Gwen Stacy to ensure other lovers in on the story.

**She gets replaced by Glory Grant who doesn't fall in love with Peter Parker but they bond and she is a better secretary then Betty Brant. This would be a good improvement in the movie

*** Just introduced but more in depth in the 4th and 5th movie. This would be a great character to get to know.


As for Peter Parker's friend, I think the friend's should go as followed;

Spiderman
Harry Osborne
Spiderman 2
Harry Osborne
Spiderman 3
Harry Osborne
Spiderman 4
No other friends in the comic book series but Peter could get a new friend made up by the movie franchaise that doesn't have to be just like the comics because Peter really needs a friend or two for the 4-6 movies if Harry is dead.

This would be the perfect series as long as the cast stays the same.

[spideyluver21]

Although that all sounds very interesting, I only want to see three or four. Six would be overdoing it.

And as for Peter's girlfriends, they'll probably just keep MJ. They've already passed Betty(comic storyline-wise), and MJ is kind of a mix of the comic book Mary Jane and Gwen.

I just read it again, and are you saying this goes with the movies as they are right now? Or if you made the movies from the beginning? Because MJ is the only person that was even close to being Peter's girlfriend in SM 1 and 2.

I'm confused now!:confused:

[the next spider-girl]

I agree with pretty much everything Spideyluver21 said. They got a good thing going with the Spider-Man movies. More than 3 or 4 would be pushing it, and they could ruin it.

[Kzelk4]

Carnage before Venom? Wasn't Venom first and then it was Carnage?

[the next spider-girl]

Originally posted by Kzelk4
Carnage before Venom? Wasn't Venom first and then it was Carnage? Yeah, lol...

[rberglberg]

I do agree with everything you guys are saying as I agree that there should not be 6 movies because then it turns into a Star Wars never dying movie but what I put in my message was the fact that if there were to be six movies then this was what I wanted them to do since I watched a show on the Spiderman 2 movie on VHI and saw that Sony had a newspaper article claiming to want a six movie series. If this did have to happen I would want the villians to be what I included. I know, I had some trouble with the love story because I think that if they are going to go six movies they should have started out with Gwen Stacy and then have her be killed and then bring in Mary Jane so they didn't so obviously there is tons of problems. As for Betty, I was just putting what friends that Peter in the movies so far have even began to hint on as Peter never really loves Betty Brant but she is a great friend. Also, sorry about the mix up about Carnage and Venom. I was just reading the Ultimate Spiderman Guide and found out about the two but I guess it never mentioned which one came first. If they were to do it, I guess they could just switch them. I sure hope that they keep Spiderman to just 4 movies or 5 at the ultimate most. We will have to see what happens. As long as Sam Raimi and the original cast are around I will continue to love these movies but if not, things could go down hill. We will have to wait and see.

[Kzelk4]

As long as it's the same cast, I'll look forward to whatever comes in the future from the Spiderman franchise. Otherwise, it wouldn't just be as good.

[rberglberg]

What do you think the villians should be for a fourth movie?

[the next spider-girl]

Originally posted by rberglberg
...because then it turns into a Star Wars never dying movie... Star Wars never dying? When Lucas started making them, he told everyone there were actually going to be 9 in the first place (later he changed it to 6).Originally posted by rberglberg
What do you think the villians should be for a fourth movie? I don't really think there will be a forth. But if there is, maybe they will set up for Venom in the end of the third and Venom could be the villain for number four. And maybe even Carnage. Not sure though...

[spideyluver21]

Originally posted by the next spider-girl
Star Wars never dying? When Lucas started making them, he told everyone there were actually going to be 9 in the first place (later he changed it to 6). I don't really think there will be a forth. But if there is, maybe they will set up for Venom in the end of the third and Venom could be the villain for number four. And maybe even Carnage. Not sure though...

A LOT of people want to see Venom. I would also like to see him in the movies.

I hope it's only four at the most, or as long as they can keep them interesting w/o veering too far from the comics or being just plain boring.

As for the cast, I do believe it would mess it up to have the original cast change. I would still see the movies, though, because I am a Spider-man fan.

[dark venom]

venom..........it could happen.

[tylerp]

Your best bet for Spider-Man 3 info :)

http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0413300/

[spideyluver21]

Originally posted by .~The Human Spider~.
My friend sais that she knows someone who knows someone who knows someone who's father went to the set of Spider-man and saw the script and said that MJ was going to die in Spider-man 3..If MJ dies....the story would end just like that......But I know alot of people out there don't want the Spider-man sequel to end just like that......And she wanted to tell me how MJ died....I rather just watch how she dies....

Not to be rude, but how could they see the script? Have they even started the script for SM3? I thought they only had the plot outlined.

I don't know. If they let people on the set see the script then that person could run around telling everybody what they read.

Killing MJ, though? What good would it do for the story?

Or maybe I misunderstood your post.

:confused:

[rberglberg]

I have reconsidered what the movies should be and they are as follows;

Spiderman 1
Green Goblin
Spiderman 2
Doctor Octopus
Spiderman 3
Hobgoblin (GG2?) and Lizard
Spiderman 4
Sandmand and Chameleon
Spiderman 5
????? Keep Reading ???????
Spiderman 6
Venom

I now will explain why I have chosen the ones for the fourth through sixth movie.

Spiderman 4

I think that Sandman is a pretty dumb villian as in intelligence but is a great action villian while Chameleon is a awesome intelligent villian but lacks action so they would compliment each other very well. Also with Spiderman being a character driven action film series you can have Chameleon change into the different characters and mix Peter up. It would be so suspenseful. Then you can have Peter stab or kill one of the characters that you think is the actual character but somehow Peter figured out that it was Chameleon. That would be a perfect movie.

Spiderman 5

I am thinking either; Prowler, Electro, Vulture, Mysterio or Cloak and Dagger. Let me know what you think about the fifth movie.

Spiderman 6

Everyone pretty much wants venom in a movie so why not put him in the last movie that will end the series in a bang. Everyone would love it and it would be a great ending to a perfect series. You could introduce the symbiote in the 5th movie or even the 4th to get ready for the big 6th movie.

I think if the movies are done in this manner it will be just about the best series ever. I don't know what to do with the 5th movie villians or with the loves of Peter Parker plus if Harry Dies sacrificing himself for Spiderman then Peter I think needs a new friend to continue the story line. Let me know what you think. Thanks!

[black_cat42]

How about Venom in 5 and then Venom and Carnage in 6. :p

[rberglberg]

To The Human Spider
How did you get this information and how sure are you that this is what really is going to happen? Is there any more details that you could find out? This would be great to hear about.

[X-Dee]

Yeah... how can you be so sure? Sony hasn't said anything about how many more movies they're going to make. And all the stories (including the villians ) are in secret. Don't tell me that you and Sami are tight;)

I really agree with Spideyluver and The Next Spider-girl. Four's enough!!!
I don't think they can have so many interesting ideas. I don't want it to be the second 007 series (but each 007 has different stories)...

I believe Venom will be very scary and disgusting...:)

[spidey pimp]

when is there going to be the trailer for spider-man 3?

[King-Kong]

why did you bump this thread up I might ask?

[Okura]

What is with all these uber old topics being bumped up?!?

[-mada-]

What is with all these uber old topics being bumped up?!?

It's a Good habbit... If the thread is suitable. This isn't. We already know the villains for this one so that list doesn't work.

[Shenron]

It's a Good habbit... If the thread is suitable. This isn't. We already know the villains for this one so that list doesn't work.You might have to re work that list of yours. Here is what Im thinking though

SM3: Sandman, Harry -GG2 (possibly venom)
SM4: (possibly venom) if not, Lizard and Kraven
SM5: GG2, Vulture

[King-Kong]

gg2 and vulture in the same movie would be sweet, all the airiel battles

[Shenron]

Yeah I have been wanting to see Vulture in a movie.

[-mada-]

SM3: Sandman, Harry -GG2 (possibly venom)
SM4: (possibly venom) if not, Lizard and Kraven
SM5: Vulture and Chameleon.
SM6: (if audience liked Venom) Venom. If not, then some real, real mean bastard...

[spidey124]

SM6: (if audience liked Venom) Venom. If not, then some real, real mean bastard...

thats carnage

[-mada-]

thats carnage

Naw. I like him, but not the best character to end the series...
I wonder if they start making spin-offs like the X-men.

[Shenron]

Naw. I like him, but not the best character to end the series...
I wonder if they start making spin-offs like the X-men.Im keen for this magneto spin off. I think his character has so much potential for a movie

[-mada-]

Im keen for this magneto spin off. I think his character has so much potential for a movie

I myself pfefer the Wolverine-movie more :)
I don't really care seeing the magneto as young. No cool action!

[Shenron]

I myself pfefer the Wolverine-movie more :)
I don't really care seeing the magneto as young. No cool action!I was interested in the magneto spin-off since he was part of WW2 as seen in the beginging of the movie. It will be interesting how he and Xavier met and how they played with there powers when they were young. I imagine its nto when they are to young. I thinking early to late 20s

[King-Kong]

Naw. I like him, but not the best character to end the series...
I wonder if they start making spin-offs like the X-men.

they probably will

[LudaChris]

Hmm, maybe a venom spin off if he's that awesome.

[King-Kong]

arrrgh, that would suck

[-mada-]

arrrgh, that would suck

Yeah, I think I feel the same way. The time's not right. New York is too small for Spider-man and Venom.

[Softballbratme]

Although that all sounds very interesting, I only want to see three or four. Six would be overdoing it.

And as for Peter's girlfriends, they'll probably just keep MJ. They've already passed Betty(comic storyline-wise), and MJ is kind of a mix of the comic book Mary Jane and Gwen.

I just read it again, and are you saying this goes with the movies as they are right now? Or if you made the movies from the beginning? Because MJ is the only person that was even close to being Peter's girlfriend in SM 1 and 2.

I'm confused now!:confused:


I agree with you on 6 movies being over killed.. but the look/sound of it.. it may seem that way because its pointless to have gewn stacey for 1 or 2 movies then kill her... im also confused too

[mercybassist16]

Well i think that they should go with the comic book and have spiderman 4 have Carnage and Venom as villians and have Venom turn good at the middle-end. Carnage could probablly have Mysterio (he is cameod in Spiderman 3 to some sources) that would be the ultimate ender, also add some smaller villians like Chameleon, Kraven, Scorpion, Hob Goblin, Rhino... and etc... but when does ever hollywood stick to the original source...

[tobeymaguire04]

I agree with you on 6 movies being over killed.. but the look/sound of it.. it may seem that way because its pointless to have gewn stacey for 1 or 2 movies then kill her... im also confused too
if the Spider-Man series goes to 6 movies, the last couple might suck
i think 4 would be good, 5 could go either way, and by 6 the General Public would be saying "give it a rest already"

[King-Kong]

Not neccesarily

[tobeymaguire04]

Not neccesarily
name a movie series that has done 6 continous movies that did well (James Bond doesnt count because none of the James Bond films are actually connected)

[Kingofkings]

add some smaller villians like Chameleon, Kraven, Scorpion, Hob Goblin, Rhino... and etc... but when does ever hollywood stick to the original source...


Kraven small villain? he should be the main villain in spiderman five if will be spiderman 5

[King-Kong]

name a movie series that has done 6 continous movies that did well (James Bond doesnt count because none of the James Bond films are actually connected)

I dont have one, but It doesnt mean it wouldnt work with spidermasn

[LudaChris]

yeah, there's a first time for everything.

[sPdy28]

name a movie series that has done 6 continous movies that did well (
hey we are talking about spider-man here! :D it's not like people will get bored of spidey movies.. will you?? i think not:rolleyes:

[Korm]

they better make a venom movie.

[tobeymaguire04]

hey we are talking about spider-man here! :D it's not like people will get bored of spidey movies.. will you?? i think not:rolleyes:
by Number 6, maybe
you cant keep the movies going
Spider-Man is lucky that the first sequel did well
you cant strike oil every time

[LudaChris]

by Number 6, maybe
you cant keep the movies going
Spider-Man is lucky that the first sequel did well
you cant strike oil every time
i know, but you can try

[tobeymaguire04]

i know, but you can try
you can try
but in terms of money, its not always the thought that counts
all that needs to happen is one bad movie, and boom! say "goodbye sequel"

[Webrina1]

I dont have one, but It doesnt mean it wouldnt work with spidermasn
What about SPECTRE They are the badddies that Bond constatnly fights. ^_^

[tobeymaguire04]

What about SPECTRE They are the badddies that Bond constatnly fights. ^_^
true, but still the movies arent directly connected in terms of time or place

[venom fan2]

how do you put those pics?:confused:

[King-Kong]

:mad:

[Softballbratme]

Although that all sounds very interesting, I only want to see three or four. Six would be overdoing it.

And as for Peter's girlfriends, they'll probably just keep MJ. They've already passed Betty(comic storyline-wise), and MJ is kind of a mix of the comic book Mary Jane and Gwen.

I just read it again, and are you saying this goes with the movies as they are right now? Or if you made the movies from the beginning? Because MJ is the only person that was even close to being Peter's girlfriend in SM 1 and 2.

I'm confused now!:confused:


i TOOTTALLY agree with u 1000%

[bds23420]

i TOOTTALLY agree with u 1000%

as much as i would love to see Spider-Man keep going on and on like superman or batman i dont think they should.....it might ruin them

but i hope they do make some more they just have to have Sam direct them...no one else has the right mind to do as good of a job as he has with the movies

[the forsaker]

That's right.

[Softballbratme]

by Number 6, maybe
you cant keep the movies going
Spider-Man is lucky that the first sequel did well
you cant strike oil every time

agreed... its like thoes horror movies.. u could go one and on.. but ppl get bored by the third or 4th one

[Softballbratme]

as much as i would love to see Spider-Man keep going on and on like superman or batman i dont think they should.....it might ruin them

but i hope they do make some more they just have to have Sam direct them...no one else has the right mind to do as good of a job as he has with the movies

TOOTTALLY AGREE

[Softballbratme]

by Number 6, maybe
you cant keep the movies going
Spider-Man is lucky that the first sequel did well
you cant strike oil every time

agreed!

[Nixu]

When the studio wills a movie into production, then they´ll be pushing it. So long as the cast/director etc are comfortable with dishing out another installment, that means that it really has got potential and it´s not just out to make money, especially when the director is someone like Sam Raimi. This is one of the reasons I am a bit sceptical with seeing Venom so soon...remember Raimi´s quote "Venom is for squares?" I am a little bit worried that he put him in pretty much against his will, but I suppose we´ll be able to judge the film as a whole soon enough.


As for the list at the initial post...riddle me this: how could they EVER introduce Carnage BEFORE Venom? It just can´t happen.

[-mada-]

Imo, if they ever decide to continue the franchise (really give it a green light) they should make (imo, notice), a two movie deal for everyone, shoot 5 right after 4 is finished (or at the same time) and release them both inside one year, pretty much what they did with the last two Matrix-films.
The scripts should be "bonded" with each other (imo, the "Man-Spider" would be a nice twist).

[Nixu]

name a movie series that has done 6 continous movies that did well

Star Wars. Nightmare on Elm Street. Friday the 13th. Police Academy.


Like them or not, they did well.

[-mada-]

Star Wars. Nightmare on Elm Street. Friday the 13th. Police Academy.


Like them or not, they did well.

Ugh...
Well Star Wars has done pretty well but the rest...
They should be destroyed for good...

[webhead212]

too many sequals can ruin a franchise. batman's a good example superman's another. 4 or 5 spidey movies are good enough i don't want spider-man to be rushed to dvd like the other superhero movies from the 90's

[Mutant Carnage]

I believe we might see Lizard in four, scince we already have Dr. Connors.

[psycho symbiote]

wow, your predictions were almost spot on!

[King-Kong]

whos?

[psycho symbiote]

whos?

the guy who made this thread!

he was right fr sm1 and 2. 3 was off but i wasn't surprised, we all thought it would be lizard!

[King-Kong]

Spiderman 1
Green Goblin
Spiderman 2
Doctor Octopus
Spiderman 3
Lizard
Green Goblin 2

Well, this thread was made in 04. So he knew the villains already for spider-man 1 & 2. And for 3..He technically didn't get any right
Sooo....

[marvel_madness]

name a movie series that has done 6 continous movies that did well (James Bond doesnt count because none of the James Bond films are actually connected)

Harry Potter. (will be successful when all of them come out)

[Mutant Carnage]

Stay on topic guys

[King-Kong]

hush you....
just...hush now

[Mutant Carnage]

hush you....
just...hush now

Ok
Hush, just hush, ye ye e
















Can I speak yet?

[King-Kong]

If you're going to say some more stupid stuff, then no

[Mutant Carnage]

What did i say that was stupid?

[Jick08]

Harry Potter. (will be successful when all of them come out)
I think the 6th HP will not be that good, cause the book wasn't. the book didn't had almost any action, was pratically all bla bla bla about voldemort, and this will be tiresome for a movie.
but the last one certainly will be the best.

[LudaChris]

What did i say that was stupid?

They were already on topic but you told them to get on topic.....

[Nixu]

I think the 6th HP will not be that good, cause the book wasn't. the book didn't had almost any action, was pratically all bla bla bla about voldemort, and this will be tiresome for a movie.
but the last one certainly will be the best.


What on earth are you talking about? The sixth book was the best, hands down. Although the movies have been going downhill since 3, if you ask me. If you want action, then maybe books aren´t really for you.

As for the guy who said Nightmare on Elm Street, Friday the 13th and Police Academy should be destroyer, I offer one single word:

BLASPHEMER! Some of us grew up on these, you know. And my "passion" (in lieu of a more appropriate term) for Spidey can only be surpassed by my passion (in lieu of a stronger word) for Star Wars, so watch your mouths.

*shifty eyes*

[Super_Steve]

Spider-Man 6?

Mac Gargan, formerly Scorpion becomes the new Venom and helps Spider-Man fight against most formidable foe ever created: CARNAGE.

[johnny621]

Sam Raimi wanted Sandman, Lizard, and GG 2 and even considered Kraven the Hunter before Avi Arad covinced him to have Venom. That would been a good movie with or without venom don't you think?

[Maxx Moon]

Sam Raimi wanted Sandman, Lizard, and GG 2 and even considered Kraven the Hunter before Avi Arad covinced him to have Venom. That would been a good movie with or without venom don't you think?

Avi Arad made probably the right choice as much as I dislike Venom .

What I've seen from this character on the different trailers seem the more realistic thingy possible towards this character and making him less ridiculous than in both the comics and animated series ("we are venom" oh dear :shake:)

Lizard will be perfect for Spider-Man 4

Cause you see there's already a story between Sandman and Venom on the comics so I think it was a neat idea adding both to the movie

[arachnidavenger]

Venom ruled in the movie

[luke123]

spiderman 5 and 6 are gonna tank, make spiderman 4 as dark and as badass as it can get and promote it as the story ends kinda deal

[BigAL76]

I have been reading the comics since I was a kid and that is how I learned how to draw. The only thing about the movies is that I wish they would have only one villian per movie. Spiderman 3 could have been so much better if they only had Venom or just the sandman in the movie. I just think that haveing too many villians takes the spot light away from the individual characters.

[MaxGSpideyFan]

I have been reading the comics since I was a kid and that is how I learned how to draw. The only thing about the movies is that I wish they would have only one villian per movie. Spiderman 3 could have been so much better if they only had Venom or just the sandman in the movie. I just think that haveing too many villians takes the spot light away from the individual characters.

Welcome to the Boards but you dont need to bump old topics.

[Softballbratme]

Although that all sounds very interesting, I only want to see three or four. Six would be overdoing it.

And as for Peter's girlfriends, they'll probably just keep MJ. They've already passed Betty(comic storyline-wise), and MJ is kind of a mix of the comic book Mary Jane and Gwen.

I just read it again, and are you saying this goes with the movies as they are right now? Or if you made the movies from the beginning? Because MJ is the only person that was even close to being Peter's girlfriend in SM 1 and 2.

I'm confused now!:confused:

couldn't agree with you more.. 6 is too much..six is over doing it..