Spiderman.....the series?

[Venom289]

Ok i really hope this doesnt happen but its slapping me in the face every time i got and visit shh. They are now making a BLADE TV series (and it looks like ****). Should they, or should they not make a Spidey TV series? Personally I say no because then they will change the actors and it will be too low budget. Lets see what you think.

















P.S I posted my Venom fan art so lets hope it gets picked :D

[Shenron]

Yeah I got a thread like this in the "Spider-man" part of the mesage boards. No one went for it. Its a terrible idea.

[Jason Martell]

It depends. At this point in time it would simply be too expensive. The CGI wouldn't be there, but...

the spider-man cartoon series was alright. I think many of the challenges that exist with making a movie would not be there for a series, and it would be easier to stay true to the comics.

[Amrod_Alkarin]

well if it is a series with actors and all that stuff that would really suck... and you fellas have said why 1- they would change the actors and 2- the money to meke it would be too much.

I would like to see new episodes of the 90´s series nd finally see what the hell happens with MJ

And please no Ultimate spiderman or something like that

[-mada-]

Err, why do people post this stuff here when they should do it to the Mania-area?

And no, I would not want a live-action series, I'm afraid it would suck... ALOT.

[Synoptic23]

If they made a live action Spiderman series, I would personally pummel the executives and producers. That would be so ridiculous. Just look at the live action series they had in the sixties. How long did it last? 20 minutes? That'd be ridiculous and it couldn't match the movies. It'd also be expensive.

[AnimeJune]

Now now - special effects are improving.
A series (whether cartoon or otherwise) might actually be good, because then they'd have time to explore all the storylines of lesser importance that fanboys go crazy about.

[Altanzitarron]

Im sure there was a live action series in which he just swang on ropes. Or was that the low budget movies?

[-mada-]

Now now - special effects are improving.
A series (whether cartoon or otherwise) might actually be good, because then they'd have time to explore all the storylines of lesser importance that fanboys go crazy about.

True about that, but it's pretty much harder to make a cheap good looking show of swinging Spidey than some powerful Superman...

[Synoptic23]

Im sure there was a live action series in which he just swang on ropes. Or was that the low budget movies?


There was a low budget ****tacular live action series in the 60's. He did basically swing on ropes. It was quite funny. It lasted like three seconds.

[tobeymaguire04]

shouldnt this be in Classic Spider-Mania?
along with MY thread about Spider-Man tv shows, called "TV Show"

[Jason Martell]

they could do it good if not for the money problems. they really could it would be a lot easier to develop the characters and put Spider-Man's humour in there.

Think about it.

the first movie? replace MJ with Gwen. Dock Ock kills her father and then Green Goblin kills Gwen, and then Green Goblin dies.

They could never have fit that in a movie. But they could fit that in one season of a live series.

and then Peter has a real reason not to want to be with MJ for the theme of season two which could be much like spider-man 2 the movie. and since Ock didn't die in season one, he could do his fusion reactor thing in season two. while during season 2 you develop Conner's character so the audience really cares about him even when he's a villain in season 3, and during season 3 we get a gradual view of Eddie's life going to ****. Then season 4 could easily be Venom and Carnage. Then season 5 could be the clone sage which carries over to season 6 with the sinister six and the conclusion of the clone sage at the end of season 6, where we find out Peter is the original and Ben is the clone.

It's too late now. There is no room for a Spider-Man revamp because the movies' have been so clost to the comic book.

[Shenron]

There was a low budget ****tacular live action series in the 60's. He did basically swing on ropes. It was quite funny. It lasted like three seconds.Yeah I hired them from the video store when SM1 came out

[AnimeJune]

True about that, but it's pretty much harder to make a cheap good looking show of swinging Spidey than some powerful Superman...
Yeah - but it's not all about the Special effects. I mean, look at "The Adventures of Lois and Clark"? That was made in the early 90s but it was still a good show. And what about "Smallville"'s effects? They're pretty decent. I think a Spider-Man series might work.

Or better yet - a Spider-GIRL series!

[King-Kong]

A blade tv series, eeeeeeeeeeew, blade sucks enough as it is

[Jason Martell]

Yeah - but it's not all about the Special effects. I mean, look at "The Adventures of Lois and Clark"? That was made in the early 90s but it was still a good show. And what about "Smallville"'s effects? They're pretty decent. I think a Spider-Man series might work.

Or better yet - a Spider-GIRL series!

A good show isn't enough to do spider-man justice. It needs to be an incredibly awesome show with huge ratings.

The things they do on smalleville are much easier and cheaper to do than spider-man webslinging. It's because of the webslinging and the interaction with the surroudning buildings. there a lot of mathematics invovled to make sure it looks like gravity exists and the laws of physics are being obeyed. we don't think about this, but it's very easy to detect when they don't do it right.

[Super Neo]

Who is playing Blade?

[AnimeJune]

Who is playing Blade?
A rapper by the name of Sticky Fingaz. Funny - you'd think a rapper with a name like Sticky Fingaz would try and go for Spider-Man instead. ;)

[Synoptic23]

A rapper by the name of Sticky Fingaz. Funny - you'd think a rapper with a name like Sticky Fingaz would try and go for Spider-Man instead. ;)


Can this rapper even act? Has anyone seen the show yet?

[tobeymaguire04]

can this rapper even talk?
"yo ***** imma **** you up Dracula!!! cause im Blade *****, and ya aint neva gona bee fresh azimiz"
poor choice

[red_zero64]

There's a rumor that there's SM1,2,3,4,5 movies.

[tobeymaguire04]

There's a rumor that there's SM1,2,3,4,5 movies.
theres a rumor that theres 1 - 6
where have you been?
we've been over this repeatedly

[AnimeJune]

Can this rapper even act? Has anyone seen the show yet?
I know - I'm a little disappointed with the casting. It seems like 50% of the time a studio needs a black actor, they choose a rapper. Why? There are plenty of actually talented African-American actors out there!

[ultimatspidy]

What show??

[tobeymaguire04]

Blade, supposedly
know what sounds worse? there is a rumor that they are making a Smallville-esque TV show about...AQUAMAN!!!
yuck, how can you keep that one going?
OH NO!! THE DOLPHINS ARE IN TROUBLE!!

[Altanzitarron]

Save Teh Whale!!!! :LOL:

[tobeymaguire04]

GOTTA SAVE THE FISHBOWL!!
i really hope that its merely a rumor and not a truth

[AnimeJune]

Blade, supposedly
know what sounds worse? there is a rumor that they are making a Smallville-esque TV show about...AQUAMAN!!!
yuck, how can you keep that one going?
OH NO!! THE DOLPHINS ARE IN TROUBLE!!
Free Willie!

Ten bucks says it going to turn out to be some kind of Captain Planet, where he ends up saving the wildlife and fighting pollution and stuff. *yawn*

[Altanzitarron]

I've found lame shows like that encourage damage to the environment. I've often thought as I'm throwing a can on the ground "**** YOU CAPTAIN PLANET!"

[AnimeJune]

I've found lame shows like that encourage damage to the environment. I've often thought as I'm throwing a can on the ground "**** YOU CAPTAIN PLANET!"
What?! You're mean! Captain Planet, he's a hero! Pushing pollution down to zero!

Plus, he sported a mullet, and talked about AIDS in the early 90s. That guy's aces in my book.

[tobeymaguire04]

What?! You're mean! Captain Planet, he's a hero! Pushing pollution down to zero!

Plus, he sported a mullet, and talked about AIDS in the early 90s. That guy's aces in my book.
Captain Planet versus Spider-Man
dun dun dun

[asrmotorsports]

it seems to be that a spiderman animated movie tie-in (like what george lucas did with star wars to tie the movies together) would be a good tool for raimi to tell the story between sm2 and the "galactic" events leading to the black suit.

this way he could still tell the story, but not alienate the "new to spiderman" fans who might not buy the Secret Wars storyline told on the big screen.

[tobeymaguire04]

it seems to be that a spiderman animated movie tie-in (like what george lucas did with star wars to tie the movies together) would be a good tool for raimi to tell the story between sm2 and the "galactic" events leading to the black suit.

this way he could still tell the story, but not alienate the "new to spiderman" fans who might not buy the Secret Wars storyline told on the big screen.
no no no no, no Secret Wars
90s TV Show origin is fine, we already have John Jameson

[asrmotorsports]

heh, wrong.

i'd pick a marvel story origin over a fox tv show origin any day of the week. sorry, i just feel they should stick to the basics people grew up knowing and loving.

[tobeymaguire04]

heh, wrong.

i'd pick a marvel story origin over a fox tv show origin any day of the week. sorry, i just feel they should stick to the basics people grew up knowing and loving.
um, how exactly are they going to explain a huge war between all the heroes and villains in the Marvel universe?
and in case you never heard, Sam Raimi wants this series to remain realistic
a foreign being abducting all the Marvel characters, taking them to a big planet, and making them fight? really realistic
youre one of those people thats convinced that everything should be copied exactly from the comics arent you?

[Synoptic23]

um, how exactly are they going to explain a huge war between all the heroes and villains in the Marvel universe?
and in case you never heard, Sam Raimi wants this series to remain realistic
a foreign being abducting all the Marvel characters, taking them to a big planet, and making them fight? really realistic
youre one of those people thats convinced that everything should be copied exactly from the comics arent you?


I think that's realistic. If Sam Raimi doesn't stick to the comics, well gee golly I'm gonna boycott the movie. My $7.50 is gonna hit Sony and Marvel where it counts, in the wallet. (Sense the sarcasm).

[Shenron]

it seems to be that a spiderman animated movie tie-in (like what george lucas did with star wars to tie the movies together) would be a good tool for raimi to tell the story between sm2 and the "galactic" events leading to the black suit.

this way he could still tell the story, but not alienate the "new to spiderman" fans who might not buy the Secret Wars storyline told on the big screen.But still alot of people dont watch the carttoon. I dont know the whole secret wars thing was a bit stupid if you ask me

[AnimeJune]

heh, wrong.

i'd pick a marvel story origin over a fox tv show origin any day of the week. sorry, i just feel they should stick to the basics people grew up knowing and loving.
I have to agree with tobeymaguire04 is this case.
How is a giant war in another dimension, in any way, basic? They've stuck with the basics - red and blue suit, webbing, slinging, red-headed girlfriend, humour, bad luck.

The film is not meant to be a recreation - it's a translation of a story from one medium to another. There are forty years of backstory, several spin-off and team-up and cross-over series and resurrections to Spider-Man's name. There's no way Sam Raimi could stick all that in a reasonable number of films.

[Altanzitarron]

Why do we have to keep going over this?

[kawkaw]

A Spider-Man live action TV show is a horrible idea, plus, it'll be over-exposure!

[tobeymaguire04]

I have to agree with tobeymaguire04 is this case.
How is a giant war in another dimension, in any way, basic? They've stuck with the basics - red and blue suit, webbing, slinging, red-headed girlfriend, humour, bad luck.

The film is not meant to be a recreation - it's a translation of a story from one medium to another. There are forty years of backstory, several spin-off and team-up and cross-over series and resurrections to Spider-Man's name. There's no way Sam Raimi could stick all that in a reasonable number of films.
quite right
i like how you brought up the whole "medium" thing
thats somthing that is often overlooked, the comic medium versus the movie medium
one relies on imagination, the other relies on a certain extent of realism

the big 7-0-0
woohoo, im burning my way up

[Shenron]

As soon as i see "other demension" it just turns me away from the film

[AnimeJune]

As soon as i see "other demension" it just turns me away from the film
Yeah - the four turn-off concepts for me in any Spider-Man films: other dimension, time travel, clones, and resurrections of dead characters.

[Shenron]

Yeah - the four turn-off concepts for me in any Spider-Man films: other dimension, time travel, clones, and resurrections of dead characters.yeah all of those too. Especially clones

[AnimeJune]

yeah all of those too. Especially clones
Yes- NO CLONES.
If it's not good enough for Star Wars, it's not good enough for Spider-man! :shake:

[Altanzitarron]

Oh man I hated Attack of the clones.

[tobeymaguire04]

Oh man I hated Attack of the clones.
i liked the actual battles in that movie (however short they were)

[Shenron]

Do they ahve a new cartoon that runs from the Spiderman movies? Not sure. wouldnt get it in AUS

[Synoptic23]

We don't have one over here in the States. At least I don't.

[Shenron]

Its a bit strange that they havent. Thought they would ahve gone the same path as Xmen

[Synoptic23]

I would like to see a new Spidey cartoon. I think it'd be sweet. They should stick by the comics though, no big changes.

[-mada-]

I would like to see a new Spidey cartoon. I think it'd be sweet. They should stick by the comics though, no big changes.

Agreed. Though they shouldn't go word-by-word. Btw, does anyone here think that Humberto Ramos's style would be good for cartoon-series? I do. Also, I'd like to see Mike Deodato, but it would take time for them to do it I quess...

[AnimeJune]

Agreed. Though they shouldn't go word-by-word. Btw, does anyone here think that Humberto Ramos's style would be good for cartoon-series? I do. Also, I'd like to see Mike Deodato, but it would take time for them to do it I quess...
Fair - but channels like Teletoon and FoxBox might start showing the older cartoons of Spidey as the release date of the movie comes closer. The 90s cartoon was pretty close to the comics, I don't know how they could do that in another cartoon without seeming like a pale clone of the first.

[Altanzitarron]

I liked the 90's show because it remained relatively true to the comics but changed a lot of things to make it more suited for the universe of that particular Spidey. Kind of like what the movies have done and what the Ultimate series has done to a larger degree.

[AnimeJune]

I liked the 90's show because it remained relatively true to the comics but changed a lot of things to make it more suited for the universe of that particular Spidey. Kind of like what the movies have done and what the Ultimate series has done to a larger degree.
True. I loved that show, man. I wish they'd show it more! I just saw the Brady Bunch movie, and when I heard the actor playing Greg talking, I kept thinking 'You're not Greg Brady! You're the voice of Spider-man". He WAS.

[Altanzitarron]

:eek: Seriously?!?

[AnimeJune]

:eek: Seriously?!?
Yeah - watch the movie, and listen to his voice. He's the dude who plays the voice of Spider-Man in the 90s animated series. His name is Christopher Daniel Barnes.

He also was the voice of Prince Eric in "The Little Mermaid", so immediately gets the vote of my besotted 5-year-old self.

[dodgeballer27]

no live action series just cartoon series

[Shenron]

I liked the 90's show because it remained relatively true to the comics but changed a lot of things to make it more suited for the universe of that particular Spidey. Kind of like what the movies have done and what the Ultimate series has done to a larger degree.Lol I rmeember when morbius use to drain people of "plasma" and he did it through his hands and not biting them

[jzmoodchange]

i think they should make a new cartoon series, but have it on adult swim or something to that extent, so that they won't have to tone it down much, like the 90's cartoon did

[-mada-]

Lol I rmeember when morbius use to drain people of "plasma" and he did it through his hands and not biting them

I liked it that way. I just can't remember, what happened to him in it. Anyone, help?

[Synoptic23]

He got turned into a bat and went to some cave. I remember Spidey finding that cave once, but I don't remember what ever became of him.

[-mada-]

He got turned into a bat and went to some cave. I remember Spidey finding that cave once, but I don't remember what ever became of him.

Oh yeah, I think I remember that one. Thanks. I think I've seen an episode where he's back to normal plasma-sucker and some people do some experiments with him. Though, I don't remember what happened.

[Synoptic23]

Oh yeah, I think I remember that one. Thanks. I think I've seen an episode where he's back to normal plasma-sucker and some people do some experiments with him. Though, I don't remember what happened.


Some of those episodes are hard to remember. I know some of the episodes are on DVD like the Venom saga and other seasons. I might buy some to catch up. It's probably the better Spider-man series that has ever been on television.

[-mada-]

Some of those episodes are hard to remember. I know some of the episodes are on DVD like the Venom saga and other seasons. I might buy some to catch up. It's probably the better Spider-man series that has ever been on television.

It's the best, I'm sure of it. I remember that the episodes from the ending of the whole series were quite strange though. They used a lot of other heroes/villains and mixed the story's, and even freaking killed Cap. Or, "killed". Sent him to another universe or something? Electro was the son of Red Skull etc. Craaaazy stuff.

[Synoptic23]

It's the best, I'm sure of it. I remember that the episodes from the ending of the whole series were quite strange though. They used a lot of other heroes/villains and mixed the story's, and even freaking killed Cap. Or, "killed". Sent him to another universe or something? Electro was the son of Red Skull etc. Craaaazy stuff.


That is so crazy it's krazy. I don't remember seeing Electro in the series. I thought Shocker was used too much in the series, like every freakin episode. Yeah, that series got real nuts at the end.

[Altanzitarron]

Oh yeah, I think I remember that one. Thanks. I think I've seen an episode where he's back to normal plasma-sucker and some people do some experiments with him. Though, I don't remember what happened.
I think he and Blade went on a full Vampire hunt after Blades mother turned up. The black Cat drifted from them to Spidey from time to time.

[Teppenwolfe]

Actually, there was a short run television series in the mid 70's. It didn't run for too long, maybe only a half season and was cancelled. I'll see if I can't dig up more info on it for you all.

But yes...at this point it would be best to leave him on the big screen, following the story lines from our beloved comics that we all loved so much.

[Teppenwolfe]

here's a link to the 70's tv series:

http://homepage.mac.com/markrathwell/Spidey/

It starred Nicholas Hammond as Spiderman and a host of other folks that we haven't heard from in a long long time. There's a episode list on that website so you can see that it didn't last long.

One of the most common misconceptions about the live-action Spider-Man show is that it was a "low rated program that was quickly canceled because its ratings were so bad". This misconception tends to stem from two things: first, the critical reaction to the show was terrible and it was widely panned. Second, CBS only made thirteen episodes which suggests a show that ran for half a season and was canned.

Another part of Spider-Man's problem was that his comic book creator, Stan Lee, HATED the live action series and made public announcements about how bad he felt this show was.

(Ok.. so I just gave my age away with this post)

All in all, it wasn't anything like the movies that we all know and love today. For example, in the movies, Spidermans webshooter is part of his wrist - In the television series, he actually had bracelets that he filled with web fluid. The Spiderman we see on the big screen today doesn't wear a utility belt and in the short lived television series, he did in fact wear a utility belt.

Here is some more info for you all to play with. Enjoy!

[Shenron]

He got turned into a bat and went to some cave. I remember Spidey finding that cave once, but I don't remember what ever became of him. In the 90s series he used the radiation ray on a bad so he could test its blood and I think the bat bit him. Pretty much the same way as spider man

[Shenron]

Actually, there was a short run television series in the mid 70's. It didn't run for too long, maybe only a half season and was cancelled. I'll see if I can't dig up more info on it for you all.

But yes...at this point it would be best to leave him on the big screen, following the story lines from our beloved comics that we all loved so much.The 70s cartoon or the live action?

[Altanzitarron]

here's a link to the 70's tv series:

http://homepage.mac.com/markrathwell/Spidey/

It starred Nicholas Hammond as Spiderman and a host of other folks that we haven't heard from in a long long time. There's a episode list on that website so you can see that it didn't last long.

One of the most common misconceptions about the live-action Spider-Man show is that it was a "low rated program that was quickly canceled because its ratings were so bad". This misconception tends to stem from two things: first, the critical reaction to the show was terrible and it was widely panned. Second, CBS only made thirteen episodes which suggests a show that ran for half a season and was canned.

Another part of Spider-Man's problem was that his comic book creator, Stan Lee, HATED the live action series and made public announcements about how bad he felt this show was.

(Ok.. so I just gave my age away with this post)

All in all, it wasn't anything like the movies that we all know and love today. For example, in the movies, Spidermans webshooter is part of his wrist - In the television series, he actually had bracelets that he filled with web fluid. The Spiderman we see on the big screen today doesn't wear a utility belt and in the short lived television series, he did in fact wear a utility belt.

Here is some more info for you all to play with. Enjoy!
So it wasn't a nightmare........

[AnimeJune]

In the 90s series he used the radiation ray on a bad so he could test its blood and I think the bat bit him. Pretty much the same way as spider man
I remember that - and I remember the Blade episodes, and the X-Men episodes, and the DareDevil episodes as well.

[Shenron]

Lol, the xmen cross overs were terrible. I rmember the episode where Norman osborn died. He turned into a dinosaur and the the xmen took him down

[Synoptic23]

Lol, the xmen cross overs were terrible. I rmember the episode where Norman osborn died. He turned into a dinosaur and the the xmen took him down

What??! I remember one episode where some dude turned into a giant green dinasour type monstrosity, but I don't remember it being Osbourne. But yeah, the crossover episodes were awful.

[Shenron]

What??! I remember one episode where some dude turned into a giant green dinasour type monstrosity, but I don't remember it being Osbourne. But yeah, the crossover episodes were awful.Yeah Im pretty sure it was Norman

[-mada-]

Yeah Im pretty sure it was Norman

No it wasn't Norman. I don't remember his name, but it wasn't Norman. It was some doctor who, if I remember right, turn Beast to normal. Beast was only a test.

[Shenron]

I would like to see an episode guide. Then we can figure it out

[Synoptic23]

I was pretty sure it wasn't Norman, just some dude. It was that guy who kinda looked like Two-Face from Batman. Half of his face was deformed, green colored.

[Arcainite]

I think you guys are thinking of Sauron. He's a different character from Norman Osbourne. But he is dinosaur-looking. Looks like a pterodon-man or something. Green skin. Has actual mutant powers as well.

[King-Kong]

Ok i really hope this doesnt happen but its slapping me in the face every time i got and visit shh. They are now making a BLADE TV series (and it looks like ****). Should they, or should they not make a Spidey TV series? Personally I say no because then they will change the actors and it will be too low budget. Lets see what you think.

















P.S I posted my Venom fan art so lets hope it gets picked :D

I think it would be awesome, and I agree, the blade one willl be sheet

[Shenron]

yeah its bad when the make series of movies when they cant afford to make it properly. I think smallville is a good example but I think they can sort of get away with it

[-mada-]

I like the Smallville. But they can't pull a series like that of Venom etc. Those heroes/villains need more and better effects.

[AnimeJune]

I think you guys are thinking of Sauron. He's a different character from Norman Osbourne. But he is dinosaur-looking. Looks like a pterodon-man or something. Green skin. Has actual mutant powers as well.
No Sauron is the guy who turns into the pteradactyl, right? The guy we're talking about is the guy who creates a vat of stuff that will "cure" mutation, but he's chucked into the vat instead of Beast (whom he'd kidnapped to serve as a lab rat). He turns into a slug thing with four arms who needs to feed on electricity.

Eventually he shrinks back to normal, but half of his face is green and bald, and the hand on that side has claws. But it wasn't Norman Osborn.

[Synoptic23]

A Spider-man series is the worst idea in the history of humanity.

[PeterParker2099]

This is the best idea in the history of humanity! Imagine, sticking to the comics all the way, wow, seeing the comics on TV, its so cool. :D